EARTHQUAKE NOW! Feeling it here in WIlmington DE

originally posted by: Magnivea2
All the national news says "felt in parts of..." then goes on to list not much in NY north of White Plains. I'm on the edge of Schenectady and Saratoga counties and definitely felt and heard it, it's all over the local news because the last time we had anything seismic that could be any kind of felt was when I was in high school 25+ years ago.

I live 30 minutes north of White Plains and it was definitely felt here.

I'm on the Hudson River in a town called Cornwall-On-Hudson. Not too far from Newburgh, NY.

This was just a test fire of the graviton emitters by the aliens in the hollow moon. They are dialing in their aim for the eclipse on the 8th.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Epicenter of the earthquake near Lebanon, NJ
Train derailment in East Palestine
"Star Spangled Banner Bridge" destroyed in Baltimore

Probably nothing to see here...

originally posted by: Hakaiju
This was just a test fire of the graviton emitters by the aliens in the hollow moon. They are dialing in their aim for the eclipse on the 8th.

Did we catch word of this with our surveillance devices disguised as birds? Birds aren't real ya know. Covid was just an excuse to put us in lockdown so the government could change the batteries in the birds.

a reply to: Hakaiju
That's no moon!

Bill Nye: 4.8 magnitude earthquake is 'unusual' for Atlantic coast.

a reply to: YourFaceAgain
I'm pretty certain there are still some gas powered ones left. They keep leaking oil all over my car.

a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex
They keep pushing NASA certified glasses to view the eclipse with. I think they are specially designed to filter out that laser wavelength, so we'll never see it coming.

originally posted by: quintessentone
To: FlyersFan

I am glad everyone is okay but is it really over? I'm just reading where the U.S.G.S. believe that the moon's position/perigee has nothing to do with tremors/earthquakes, but other experts are saying that it does. The upcoming solar eclipse will feature a supermoon. A supermoon is named because it is the moon's closest approach to the Earth. Now how can the Earth not be affected by that?

Here's what science says.

The moon's gravitational pull causes a phenomenon called Earth tide, which causes the Earth's solid surface to bulge slightly, similar to ocean tides. This effect is not as dramatic as with the oceans, but it is measurable.

The Earth's mantle deforms cyclically due to the moon's gravitational effects, and the Earth's rotation axis wobbles. This mechanical forcing causes strong currents in the outer core. Rocks have slight imperfections and cracks that give them elastic tendencies. When these rocks are under external stress, such as heat, water, or the moon's tidal pull, their tendencies change.

The moon's orbit around Earth brings it perpendicular to the Sun during the first and last quarter phase of the moon, which causes Neap tides. When the Earth, Sun, and Moon line up, their gravitational power combines to make spring tides, which are exceptionally high tides. When the Sun is at a right angle to the Moon, moderate tides, called neap tides, result.
It's impossible to observe solid Earth tides without using scientific instruments. For example, at high tide, New York City can rise upward by 14 inches (35.5 centimeters), and then fall by the same degree at low tide. However, the "vertical motion at the surface" varies from place to place.

Yet unbeknownst to many of us, the ground beneath our feet experiences tides of its own. The phenomenon goes by many names, including "land tides," "crustal tides," "Earth tides," and "solid Earth tides." No matter what you call the process, it's caused by the same forces that generate our better-known oceanic tides.

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To a miniscule degree, the ground level itself rises and falls every day in accordance with the moon's whereabouts. "The motion extends through the whole of the solid earth, not just the crust, but is largest at the surface," Duncan Agnew says via email. "The earth," he adds, "is slightly elastic." Duncan is a geophysicist at the Cecil H. and Ida M. Green Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics (IGPP) at Scripps Institution of Oceanography at the University of California, San Diego.

science.howstuffworks.com...

Lots of Granite out here in the North East. We get something every 10-30 years but not that heavy. The stress builds up and *boom*, but the ground holds together as a rule since it is not that loose.

Of course it depends on where you are and how deep the quake is. This one was shallow, but since Granite is so hard, it can be felt for a great distance.

It looks like the most damage was glass and ceramics vibrating off shelves.

Around here, the stress builds up very gradually and it takes something like full and new moons to just be that extra little gravitational nudge to trigger a shift. The coming eclipse is only 3 days away and there was an penumbral lunar eclipse 3 days ago, so it probably was that extra ounce on the Camel's back.

a reply to: StoutBroux

Thank you for providing that information but since this eclipse will involve a supermoon, I just could not believe that there would be no geological effects of note.

I suppose the when the scientists say "Although the Sun and the Moon’s alignment cause a small increase in tectonic activity, the effects of the Supermoon on Earth are minor. Many scientists have conducted studies, and they haven’t found anything significant that can link the Super Moon to natural disasters." - that's one scientific stance.

www.timeanddate.com...#:~:text=Although%20the%20Sun%20and%20the%20Moon%E2%80%99s%20alignment%20cause,can%20li nk%20the%20Super%20Moon%20to%20natural%20disasters.

Here's another scientific stance on the other side of the fence:

In a solar eclipse, the Earth, Sun, and Moon are aligned, so you expect the effect to be greatest. Is there a correlation between eclipses and earthquakes? The short answer is yes, but it’s not really the eclipse that increases the probability, but the lunar phase.

How significant is the increased risk? The USGS calculation estimates a 3x increased risk of an earthquake. While this may seem like a lot, the risk at any given time is extremely low, so multiplying it by three still yields an extremely tiny probability of an occurrence.

The semi-diurnal tides also affect seismic activity and have been connected with aftershocks in volcanic regions. Even so, the chance of an earthquake occurring is the same whether it is day or night in the region.

sciencenotes.org...://sciencenotes.org/can-a-solar-eclipse-trigger-an-earthquake/sciencen... otes.org/can-a-solar-eclipse-trigger-an-earthquake/

Interesting to say the least.

a reply to: quintessentone

I'm in agreement with your position. Regardless of the moons position and closeness to the earth, it does affect our planet, and IMHO, any 'thing' that can affect earth's largest to the smallest bodies of water and it's crust isn't 'minimal' as some claim.

Looking back on information though of earthquakes and eclipses, it's difficult to connect any causation because as YourFaceAgain stated, earthquakes happen all the time. I couldn't determine any change in frequency or severity.

I believe there is a connection but it's almost impossible to prove.

originally posted by: StoutBroux
a reply to: quintessentone


I believe there is a connection but it's almost impossible to prove.

That's the thing, yes. I do think it's possible as well, it's just very difficult to prove. As the old saying goes, correlation does not equal causation.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Principal fault system in the area is the RAMAPO Fault which generally follows the line of the Passaic River

en.wikipedia.org...

East of the Highlands is the Piedmont, specifically the Newark Basin. The Ramapo Fault forms the boundary between the Newark Basin and the Highlands, running from Haverstraw, New York to near Schaefferstown, Pennsylvania. The Newark Basin, an aborted rift valley created during the breakup of Pangaea, consists of sedimentary and volcanic rocks from the Triassic and early Jurassic. Smaller extensions of the Ramapo Fault, including the Hopewell, Flemington-Furlong, and Chalfont faults, are present within the basin.

Unlike California where the plate boundary between North America and the Pacific plates are in contact The edge of the North America is in the middle of the Atlantic 200 million years ago Africa and North America were joined - you could have walked from New York City to Morocco

It split apart forming the Atlantic Ocean and causing flood of basaltic lavas I live on one of the resulting volcanic ridges
west of New York City The fault line is the area where the continents split apart

originally posted by: Roma1927
a reply to: FlyersFan

Yes, mine too. At first I thought it was a helicopter (as I'm not too far from the Willow Grove AFB). Then the intensity increased and the dog started to get spooked. That's how I knew it was an earthquake.

I was thinking if this was just the opening act for the eclipse on Monday myself, lol. I might go sharpen my sword just in case...

Small world, I grew up in Willow Grove. I'm in Lansdale now, we didn't feel anything at home but my daughter said she felt a slight rumble at school for a few seconds.

a reply to: SchrodingersRat

Haha really? I lived in Newburgh when I worked for MSLC and was floated to Cornwall now and then.

That's one of the weird things; I felt it up here, checked where the epicenter was about 5 minutes later and then texted my sister in Fishkill to see how strong it was down there and she didn't even know it had happened. She was at home cleaning and felt nothing yet her daughters visiting our aunt in Albany felt it enough to be a bit freaked out by it. Interesting how it works.

For an interesting live view, i use the desktop version of earthquake3d

www.earthquake3d.com...

A quick search of google will find the desktop version..

when i had multiple monitors, i had this on one for a while.

All the best

NY Post

4.0 aftershock at 6pm last night.
Did not feel it here in Wilmington DE.
Reports say it was felt in Philly.

originally posted by: Guyfriday

Ok, now that that is over with. I think the person was trying to say that an Earthquake was going to happen in the area where the eclipse was viewable. I get what you're saying though, and it's true. Just like how a person can predict that a major airline will have an issue this weekend that puts peoples live at risk. In fact one can even predict this event even deeper by claiming that the airline will use the color blue and will be flying from East to the West. Fake predictions are all to easy to do, and yes this eclipse/earthquake is right up there with my airline prediction.

From: New York Post

The wingtip of an empty Virgin Atlantic jet collided with a stationary British Airways airliner while being towed from a stand at London’s Heathrow Airport on Saturday, the airlines said.

Heathrow, Britain’s busiest airport, said no passenger injuries had been reported and it did not anticipate any ongoing impact to the airport’s operations.

“Our aircraft is being assessed by our engineering teams and we have provided an alternative aircraft to limit the impact on our customers,” British Airways said in a statement.

Virgin Atlantic said its empty Boeing 787-9 had just completed a flight and was being towed to another part of the airfield when the incident happened at Terminal 3.

See how easy that was, but we're not done with the weekend yet.

I saw that there was multiple aftershocks being reported over there in the NY/NJ area.
From: New York Post

New Jersey continues to shake after Friday’s 4.8-magnitude earthquake and likely will continue to do so for some time.

Dozens of aftershocks were recorded in the Garden State since the rare quake hit, including one tremor of 3.8 after the initial event. But residents of NYC shouldn’t expect anything beyond possibly a light shake in the coming days.

Rumbles were measured in 29 nine areas around Whitehouse Station, NJ, which was the epicenter of the quake, including near Tewksbury and Bedminster, according to the United States Geological Survey. The smaller temblors hit as far as 13 miles away from the epicenter.

It seems to me that the activity will be toning down which is a good sign. Without getting all "DOOM-Porny" these could also be a precursor event, so lets prepare for the worst but hope for the best.

a reply to: FlyersFan
The earthquake registered 4.8
The eclipse is on 4/8

I wonder what earth is up to