I was born at 34 years of age.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: YouSir

Does science tell you what god looks like?

Nope.

The opp made the claim he had seen the face of God, I simply wanted to know what he looked like.

Which once again is not exactly unreasonable.

Anyhoo you have not seen the fellow nether.

So on that note bye'bye.

Ummm...I really do love those who claim to know what thoughts or experiences reside in the mind of another...they're some of my fave humans...

Such prestidigitation is quite a remarkable feat...perhaps such an one should seek employ with Barnum and Bailey...or any number of side show acts...

I'm sure there's an online application for just such a position...should one seek to illustrate and illuminate that most unique talent...

Have a perfectly...unique day...



YouSir

a reply to: YouSir

Yada yada yada.

And perhaps perhaps perhaps.

Ummm.....if you can't show me God nether once again bye'bye.

As to what you are sure of, not much by the sounds of things.

And good luck with your "perfectly...unique day...".

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: BrotherKinsMan
Ah brother, are you the antichrist born? Have you come to lead astray the faithful? What you allude to in your post is reincarnation as this is twice you've been reborn or did you forget your life on Sirius or is your story going to merge the two?
According to biblical scholars reincarnation is anathema to the bible. Yes John did say, Jesus replied "I'll tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot see the kingdom of god". But in the context of his answer he was talking about spiritual rebirth not physical rebirth.
Reincarnation is a no no to a Christian so stop trying to lead the faithful astray.

I think he means born again, like in John ch 3.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: cooperton

So what about as above so below?

If he was here to do Gods will.

It seems to me he's apt to be for the same sort of rule as his father.

Yeah it was to dethrone Satan from holding the power of death.

a reply to: arcticshuffle

They're not mutually exclusive, actually they're a perfect fit...

a reply to: cooperton

Yeah it was to dethrone Satan from holding the power of death.

Humanity is still kicking the living sh@t out of one another more than 2000 years later with no end in sight, how do you imagine thats working out?

Lesson learned, or anything much really regarding the man's alleged sacrifice to save us all.

Probably not I have to say.

a reply to: BrotherKinsMan

If you know God, that makes you an accomplice to mass murder.

I suggest you tell the authorities everything you can about God.

It shows no love for Man to keep God’s secret.

a reply to: andy06shake

Did he not say he had to die otherwise the other that is to be sent from God will not come?

The comforter who will remind us of Jesus words?

The helper?


I may be wrong, I haven't read "the good book" as it is sometimes called.

originally posted by: ByeByeAmericanPie
a reply to: BrotherKinsMan

If you know God, that makes you an accomplice to mass murder.

I suggest you tell the authorities everything you can about God.

It shows no love for Man to keep God’s secret.

For one thing, that's kinda what I'm trying to do, one drop at a time.

However, which authorities do you speak of?

The current governing bodies in our society?

I don't recognize their sovereignty; they are usurpers.

a reply to: BrotherKinsMan

I lived for 33 years, then I died.

I found God, and as our gaze met, we smiled and wept together, for at this moment we were as one.

Then I emerged from the waters a fresh babe.

Yep. You must have been very, very naughty, but yep.

Keep up the good fight!

a reply to: BrotherKinsMan

Heh, which authorities? You stumped me on that one.

If it were me, I’d try to publish everything I knew in a public domain. Then plug it.

Btw, I’m not clear what you say you’re kinda trying to do.

I made 2 statements.

God is a mass murderer.

Somebody who knows God would have a responsibility to prosecute God.

So which are you kinda trying to do, the former or the latter?

a reply to: ByeByeAmericanPie

I must ask, in your accusation, which god do speak of?

Our literature is ridden with lies and half truths.

Many have presented themselves as the origin made manifest.

Whom among them was truthful?

Can you tell from the remnant echoes of their word?

It is my duty to share truths which I am privy to with my fellow kin.

But that which I am seeking to unveil cannot be expressed explicitly.

And so, my approach is to shed light on the available roads, in hopes that one may venture forth of his own accord, whilst remaining aware of the dangers along the way.


I see no need for judgment of the one I call Father.

How could you assess his intention or the ramifications of his choices, when you cannot see as he does?

Once you can call yourself his equal, then you may judge him as you see fit. Until then, you would do well to mind your words.

To accuse someone of the wanton waste of life is a serious affair.

a reply to: BrotherKinsMan

In regards to this comment,

“It is my duty to share truths which I am privy to with my fellow kin.

But that which I am seeking to unveil cannot be expressed explicitly.”

If you had a secret that could save a man, but you told him a riddle instead of the secret, and the man died clueless, never thinking twice about your riddle, would you call that evil?

a reply to: ByeByeAmericanPie

No.

I would not.


What if we don't speak the same language?

What if the words needed to describe this secret don't exist in his language?

How would you go about it then?


And what if he plainly lacks the intellect to comprehend this truth?

Are you responsible for his lack of interest too?

a reply to: BrotherKinsMan

There are plenty of translators. And the message is universally understood by all adults as the lowest common denominator.

If the person receiving the information chooses to dismiss it, it is not the problem of the person delivering the information

But if the message is delivered using deception, can you really say anybody was informed?

No, you cannot inform anybody with an implicit message covered with a deception.

Caution: The above post has caused this thread to exceed it's maximum Python threshold!




You have been warned.

a reply to: ByeByeAmericanPie

Well, that is your opinion.

I found a way to speak the Truth by combining and splitting, turning lies around; in fact, it is the only way I can express myself honestly.

If you're missing pieces of a puzzle, you can always fill in the holes how you want.

It might not be the exact original piece, but if you have integrity, the entirety of the picture remains the same to the observer.

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: BrotherKinsMan
Ah brother, are you the antichrist born? Have you come to lead astray the faithful? What you allude to in your post is reincarnation as this is twice you've been reborn or did you forget your life on Sirius or is your story going to merge the two?
According to biblical scholars reincarnation is anathema to the bible. Yes John did say, Jesus replied "I'll tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot see the kingdom of god". But in the context of his answer he was talking about spiritual rebirth not physical rebirth.
Reincarnation is a no no to a Christian so stop trying to lead the faithful astray.

I wasn't going to reply to this, but upon further thought I feel it deserves an answer.

What is the Antichrist?

If my disposition fits the role, then sure, I guess I could be.

I do stand opposite Christ.

Were it not for his incarnation on earth, I would be lacking for material in expression, and so, I very much lean on him, or against him.

His way is not my way.

Yet we both seek the same goal.

To bring forth into existence our Father's vision for all our brethren, if they so choose it.

But how can you make a choice without understanding your options?

Beyond the words of Christ, or those attributed to him, I see very little value in the Christian religion.

I would consider it an honor and an achievement if I could shake the unquestionable faith of its most ardent followers.


But isn't the Antichrist supposed to have the backing of the rulers of the earth?

I'm looking around and it's pretty lonely around here.

I'm not all that powerful, considering all things.

You tell me, am I him?

a reply to: BrotherKinsMan

Did he not say he had to die otherwise the other that is to be sent from God will not come?

What other send from God?

Does he have another Son I'm not aware of.

The comforter who will remind us of Jesus words?

The helper?

Whos that?

My best guess would be the "holy Ghost" which is Jesus is it not, or another name for him in I'm not mistaken.

I may be wrong, I haven't read "the good book" as it is sometimes called.

I don't think its required reading to get you into heaven, so I would not worry too much on that score BrotherKinsMan.

a reply to: ByeByeAmericanPie

If you know God, that makes you an accomplice to mass murder.

Sounds like you are struggling with the cycles of life. How would this place be looking if things did not die, but still more is born. Does not look like a practical function for life. If you want to blame all that dies on god, then to be fair you must also blame all that is born and lives on god as well.

If the idea of your own mortality hurts, maybe do something about it before it is too late.

a reply to: andy06shake

John 16:7

" But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you."

I don't know why people seem to think that's the "holy ghost."

Did he say that?

Who told you that?

Advocate, comforter, helper, these are all synonymous.


As for having other sons...

John 20:17

"[...] I ascend unto My Father, and your Father; and to My God, and your God. [...]"

If we share a Father, are we not brothers!?

Jesus is a brother to me.

Who is he to you?


Is he really the ONLY one?

He's everything, and only him?

What are we then?

Father, son, "ghost", he's all that and we are none of it?


Well, that's not the way I see things.


But who knows!?

^_^



Here's a thinker for you...

The Father and I are one.

Jesus made the same claim.

I am not Jesus.

All 3 above statements are true.

Have fun with that.