Do You Think Pastor-Mayor F.L. Copeland is Now Burning in Hell?.

a reply to: firstofAkhet

I'm sorry, but it was in Georgia and involved gossip and drag, it reminded me instantly of that book.

What does it matter to you if I hybridized Robert Louis Stevenson and John Berendt in my reference heavy posting?

I'm awaiting for the other poster to give a sh*t and decide to humor my response or not.

a reply to: Degradation33


Truman who? Robert huh?

That's such a foil. But anyways no attempt on my part to harass. I still have no clue who those guys are. Peace.

I like your reference to "give a sh*t."


Precisely because they don't have to about me and that's a ok.

a reply to: firstofAkhet

Well you are partially right. I confused Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil with True Blood somehow, so it's Robert and John now.

a reply to: Degradation33


Same thing either way because me not familiar. Oh no my not current is showing. I feel raw and confused. Oh God. Oh no. This is what does me in.


Well I'll rescind from any negativity and go off to where I go off to and leave people to debate the remnants of this guy and his personal attributes. Have a good ee. And sorry much obliged. ..

a reply to: firstofAkhet

They are literary references. Devices used and inserted to cite the themes of that referenced story and provide social commentary on the topic.

Themes for this one would be salacious gossip, normative morality, and split personality identities that would appear to be a war between the battling personae and the influences the shadow has on that.

I was hoping to pivot this unfortunate situation into a conversation about society and psychology.

a reply to: Degradation33


Yes precisely. You used people as a reference. This much is the case.

We can have any kind of conversation you want because I would place the perspective that persona is split as either suggestivity or views from the outside. Which is why I come to the defense of meme monkeys or anyone else. Its tapestry.

It is rather unfortunate isn't it?


Do keep in mind that I might dip out, I've got simultaneous things going on and so forth and might have to retire to do some domestic bs. So go. ✌🙂..-

a reply to: firstofAkhet

You know the meme monkeys I am talking about? Granted all meme monkeys are similar, but these are of specific reference. One more about a need to belong, one centered on validation of their identity. Which is more about inclusion in a specific group they want stratification within, and the protection that "like minds" provide.

I feel just like the referenced sinister meme monkeys seek out stratification and acceptance among their desired identity, this guy was seeking validation before being outed for his online escapades.

The theme of the popping illusion identity bubble, front and center. And what happens when the carefully crafted meets reality.

a reply to: Degradation33


This guy might have been divided. But I would disagree that all meme purveyors (lol) are similar! We just don't know. I referenced being certain for a reason. There is no illusion bubble if we are applying our opinions as fact.

SOME are seeking acceptance. Some are having their own conversations. The behavior of each is apparent.


So going on the perspective that personal opinion reigns king, we will essentially be judge and jury from our living rooms. There is no "carefully crafted" because that's an opinion. Meme people don't exist in a vaccuum.

a reply to: firstofAkhet

SOME are seeking acceptance. Some are having their own conversations. The behavior of each is apparent.

I have a knack for hyperbole. Of course it's not all or nothing.

And you're right, you may have an ability to snap into perfect eloquence. With noticeable tact and a coming out of nowhere authority.

You only need to look here to see that juxtaposition of meme propagation. The ones behind a few of them seem to approach it like a discordian subversion. Almost mocking their own creation or followers. Where as the repost buys it, hook, line, and sinker.

Sorry to not give the benefit of subversive doubt. There are those that just pretend to be retarded too.

a reply to: Degradation33

I was hoping to pivot this unfortunate situation into a conversation about society and psychology.

We can see the micro-cosmic manifestation playing out in this thread.

The mad dash to capitalize upon this man's tragedy. To get in our digs and uplift our various pet worldviews.

The shame and guilt we are heaping upon ourselves this very moment! And I am not exempt from such filth.

Oh the paradox! That Gordian Knot so defiant to all dialectic to untangle!

But Bubba is free of that now. Such dialectic is reserved for the living.

a reply to: FullHeathen

Can't argue that one. I'd have delete all my responses. But I'm on record saying that his afterlife is for people like me and everyone else to use his tragedy to pimp their own worldviews. With a ton of projection.

I guess I dehamanize him just a little too. But to truly take the indifferent road would end up like a koan trying to have no easily discernable opinion for the sake of being enlightened.

a reply to: Degradation33

I don't think it was dress up. You don't put that much effort into crafting a persona of eye covering wool if you don't enjoy the acknowledgement as that identity.

This is the quote from the article:

It’s a hobby I do to relieve stress. I have a lot of stress, and I’m not medically transitioning. It’s just a bit of a character I’m playing… 

And another:

It’s just a hobby that I have inside my own home...


So by his own admission, it was a dress-up. He wasn't transgender. He never underwent a surgery. He was just a guy dressing up for a woman. Sure, we can speculate about his underlying motivations and mental issues but nowhere is it stated that it was anything more than the reckless game he played.

And you can keep on saying that it wasn't a transgression game but surely he must have known that the people wouldn't take kindly to their, as it turned out, foul-mouthed pastor running around the internet in female underwear, right? It's not all that hard to figure out. And being a mayor, he could expect being the focus of public attention, much more than average Joe, right?

It could be stress, the need to express the hidden part of his personality but I don't want to speculate. I'm saying that he was reaping the fruits of his behavior. I wouldn't blame journalists for outing him or the public condemning his behavior, especially that he was also allegedly guilty of posting the photos of the local women on porn sites and using their likenesses in his erotic slasher fiction stories.

a reply to: twistedpuppy

Well that must be my projection for viewing his saying, "it's just a hobby" as rationalization or bargaining. Like saying The Kids In The Hall just really really liked playing stereotypical gossipy woman for comedy, with nothing underlying that at all.

I wouldn't blame journalists for outing him or the public condemning his behavior, especially that he was also allegedly guilty of posting the photos of the local women on porn sites and using their likenesses in his fiction stories.

And I gotta read these stories better. Do some digging. He was using real people's photos? And incorporating real people into his fantasy?

Actually, that's pretty damn creepy.

Okay, now I just think his unacknowledged true self sabotaged the crap out of him for not admitting he actually wanted to be a woman. And doing all the creepy stuff for the same unconfronted psychological "let me out" reasons.

I can maintain most of it with projection upon his subconscious motivation.

a reply to: twistedpuppy

So, he wasn't transitioning. My above posts were from the information from several articles that he was.

I can see now that he did not intend to out himself but was found out about his hobby. I can see why he could have taken the way out he did. His pressure relief turned into a pressure multiplier. Another sad story of someone not living up to societies expectations.

As far as his afterlife goes, I had rather not judge the dead. Rip.

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: QRST4D
a reply to: nugget1

Couldn’t it be the case that creating a trans persona was part of this person’s self-acceptance?

Why hide it from his congregation? Why the meltdown when the truth was brought to light? His reaction suggests his deception was not only intentional but made him a dishonest person, willing to lie to the people who looked to him for spiritual guidance.
What else might this person be hiding? Who wants a dishonest pastor? Doesn't living a lie in front of his congregation equate to doing the devil's work?

I can excuse his humanity, but not the position he continued to hold-until he got outed.

Bubba Copeland did not understand that God created him and allowed him to be, who he became.

The Bible is the blueprint that tried in oh, so many ways to get it through our thick skulls that each individual is in charge of their life, to make it whatever they choose. Everything Jesus did we have the ability to do, and more.
He gave us all the information; all the keys to make life work the way He intended/wants-and yet we all sit here with hands thrown in the air wanting God to do it for us.

We're in the period of Grace; we're on our own to figure it out or muck it up. When we're done destroying things, He'll be back.

a reply to: Degradation33

But to truly take the indifferent road would end up like a koan trying to have no easily discernable opinion for the sake of being enlightened.

You say koan, I say dialectic.
too bad they don't rhyme or look the same.

At least we can't hurt him. There may be true bereaved people that we do not know.

Other than that; Hey! Free for All! Let's beat each other up!

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But seriously: I haven't yet developed a philosophy of morals, I'm just sort of coasting along on what I grew up on, minor tweaks here and there.

It's almost as if the fabric of society is unraveling and I can't even come up with a plan to stop it.

a reply to: FullHeathen

Other than that; Hey! Free for All! Let's beat each other up!

That could work for a 'sinister' dialectic too.

The refined sinister that sits under a tree marveling at the complexity of the sacred geometry in the leaves. It's certainly left-handed in reference to the vitriol and tendencies of society, but I'd feel sequestered trying to play Buddha over everything.

I think I have too much of a martyr complex to maintain total indifference and separation from the mindless minutiae of society.

a reply to: Degradation33

I think I have too much of a martyr complex to maintain total indifference and separation from the mindless minutiae of society.

Well yeah. I wrote a poem one time. Swimming upstream in polluted water you get very dirty. Even gets in your mouth. But that's where the life is.

So today: I voted in a local election, chatted with a homeless guy who had a nice jacket that fit him. Went grocery shopping and the store didn't get shot up or anything. And took a nap. Now I feel better.

I suspect that agenda driven media and online chats turn our focus away from the finer things in life.

a reply to: FullHeathen

You may be mistaking him with Kenneth Copeland. Not the same person.

Ok. Thanks.

What concerns me most, is that He/she
was on the Board of Education.
Positions as those, need representatives to be
roll-models, including in their private lives.
Dishonesty, living a double life gets people fired.

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