Alert- French base in Niger surrounded by thousands of coup supporters

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I don't see how this ends well if they attempt to storm it. But usually that's what ends up happening, as crowds get impatient, more riled, and eventually when there is no action, initiate it themselves.

Unless something more has happened recently if you look at the videos from inside the crowd there is no way they are going to storm it. It's just a noisy protest. There has to be alot more bad actors for it go anywhere. Chances are more likely they will go home once bored.

They want to keep and sell their uranium and keep the profits by themselves and have enough of that colonialism BS. They don´t want to get robbed of what belongs to them only to make sure Europe has enough energy for their green new deal BS.

Somehow i can understand them and if they are angry enough they will maybe throw the frenchies out single-handed. But then comes the Legion Etrangere and it´s no fun dealing with them.

Wagner did a really good job destabilizing this country and arming and training up the coup.

If the neighboring countries do indeed go in forcefully, in order to reestablish peace, that will pit their united military forces directly against Wagner and their local cohorts.

Russia's end goal here is to destabilize as many parts of the world as possible, in hopes of gaining an advantage in their own war. This will continue elsewhere.

a reply to: DerBeobachter

Of course, Wagner Group and Russia has no designs on those resources?

Is a visit by the Foreign Legion in the cards ?

Cheers

a reply to: DerBeobachter

Let’s be honest. Most of these coups end up pillaging the land as much or more than colonial influence.

Also, you don’t have much validity in the international community unless you have relations with a power. They’ll cozy up to someone, whether it be Russia or China. That uranium is leaving one way or another. Question is will it be a better price, and will it make its way to rebuilding the country.

That’s speculation on my part. And I can’t say with certainty that the coup doesn’t turn things around. Hell, if China or Russia did fill the void there, it would be in their best interest to make the west look bad and do better, so I wouldn’t even discount that possibility.

Time will tell.

originally posted by: Mahogany
Wagner did a really good job destabilizing this country and arming and training up the coup.

If the neighboring countries do indeed go in forcefully, in order to reestablish peace, that will pit their united military forces directly against Wagner and their local cohorts.

Russia's end goal here is to destabilize as many parts of the world as possible, in hopes of gaining an advantage in their own war. This will continue elsewhere.

U.S.-trained military officers have taken part in 11 coups in West Africa since 2008.

This general in Nigar who overthrew the president (pretty peacefully) of Niger was also trained by the CIA, but didn't worked out in the end it seems.

So the US likes to cause coups in many country's but now they are upset? They also caused/supported that coup in Ukraine as well, all for world peace and bringing democracy on this globe of course.

So now France perhaps takes action as they did in Lybia, which utterly destroyed it (& which created many terrorists) that country with millions of refugees coming to Europe as a result as well, I guess they want that country destroyed also with again many millions of refugees in the end. Must be worth it... Nato even bombed those water pipe lines in Lybia! Western power really cares about people!

The military targeting of civilian infrastructure, especially of water supplies, is a war crime under the Geneva Conventions, writes Nafeez Ahmed. Yet this is precisely what NATO did in Libya, while blaming the damage on Gaddafi himself. Since then, the country's water infrastructure - and the suffering of its people - has only deteriorated further.

a reply to: Pluginn

Do you have any evidence for any of those claims?

originally posted by: Pluginn
So now France perhaps takes action as they did in Lybia, which utterly destroyed it (& which created many terrorists) that country with millions of refugees coming to Europe as a result as well, I guess they want that country destroyed also with again many millions of refugees in the end. Must be worth it... Nato even bombed those water pipe lines in Lybia! Western power really cares about people!

Why would France do anything here or get involved at all?

Niger has been independent since 1960.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Just some fast googling:

theintercept.com...



www.wsws.org...

theecologist.org...

originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: Pluginn
So now France perhaps takes action as they did in Lybia, which utterly destroyed it (& which created many terrorists) that country with millions of refugees coming to Europe as a result as well, I guess they want that country destroyed also with again many millions of refugees in the end. Must be worth it... Nato even bombed those water pipe lines in Lybia! Western power really cares about people!

Why would France do anything here or get involved at all?

Niger has been independent since 1960.

Why did they do it against Lybia? Before the war our western media bombarded how bad Ghadaffi was, at least I remember, interviewing some people and such saying how bad this guy is (you can always find people, I mean look how many dislike Biden or Trump
The west wants to steal Africa's resources, in the west we hear how evil China is in Africa but they love China (they build infrastructure and bring economic growth) in Africa and they hate the west/europe mostly, no wonder. They start coups, wars and steal again their resources (or get it for cheap with western company's).

a reply to: Pluginn

World Socialist Website?!!!

Google slower.

originally posted by: Mahogany

Why would France do anything here or get involved at all?

Niger has been independent since 1960.

Not really independent when the French still has it's military based in Niger. Just an illusion.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Pluginn

World Socialist Website?!!!

Google slower.

yea socialism is bad, the US hates socialism, any country that gets good with such structure will be targeted by sanctions where they ain't allowed to sell or buy and visa versa and after they say see!; socialism doesn't work!
Look how many in the US are poor, sleep under bridges and on the other side you have a few so rich they own everything and the government are there for the rich! In the US you have socialism for the rich.

a reply to: Pluginn

What do you think Socialism is?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Bringing a more equal society. In the west they as you probably know are not for the people, mostly serving big money, banks, company's, you could even say it has not that different as like in the middle ages, where you had castles and keeping the folks poor where they stealed from the poor and enjoyed their luxury in their castles. Where the common voice is not heard or cared for.

a reply to: Pluginn

Incorrect.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: DerBeobachter

Let’s be honest. Most of these coups end up pillaging the land as much or more than colonial influence.

Also, you don’t have much validity in the international community unless you have relations with a power. They’ll cozy up to someone, whether it be Russia or China. That uranium is leaving one way or another. Question is will it be a better price, and will it make its way to rebuilding the country.

That’s speculation on my part. And I can’t say with certainty that the coup doesn’t turn things around. Hell, if China or Russia did fill the void there, it would be in their best interest to make the west look bad and do better, so I wouldn’t even discount that possibility.

Time will tell.

From what I've read China hs mastered the art of coming in spending money and constructing new infrastructure, establishing a core population that benefits from all of this and propping up the government, and robbing the resources blind.

It's smarter than armed conflict and both sides are reasonably happy, till the population realizes the Chinese will own everything. By then it's too late and they are off the another country.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: DerBeobachter

Of course, Wagner Group and Russia has no designs on those resources?

No, not really, Russia has plenty of their own uranium and oil, so does Ukraine.
Europe deserves to go under, forcing other countries into war to sustain their energy crisis

The EU and NATO are the criminals, stealing African resources for centuries. Russia and Wagner should end Slavery, Africa are still enslaved by neo colonialism.

NATO started this war and Russia just amped it up, hope those Nigers have trained, the US will invade and slaughter 10 of thousands again

Selfish, greedy people in the US complain about centuries of slavery but ignore modern slavery