Russia floats building a village for conservative American expats

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I had to shorten the title, but the whole title reads as: "Russia is floating a plan to build a village for conservative Americans who want to move to a 'Christian country' and are tired of liberal ideology in the US"

Well, isn't this just a dream come true?

A village of American and Canadian Catholics looking for freedom in a country known for anything but freedoms. Also worth mentioning that the Russians, now that they are not hardcore communist anymore, are hardcore Orthodox. And there is no constitution, no protections for any religion other than their own.

But anyway, 200 families have already signed up to move and live in this Moscow suburb that is scheduled to begin construction in 2024.

The village, slated for construction in Moscow's suburbs in 2024, is meant for conservative families who want to "emigrate for ideological reasons," said immigration lawyer Timur Beslangurov on Thursday, according to RIA Novosti.

Around 200 families have expressed interest in the project, Beslangurov said in a speech at a legal forum in St. Petersburg, the state outlet reported.

Many of these families don't have Russian roots but are tired of "the inculcation of radical values" in the US and Canada, Beslangurov said.

"Today, they have 70 genders, it is not known what will happen next," he added, per RIA Novosti.

I mean, people can go where they want to, it's their life, their freedoms... but the delusions these people are under are just astounding. Russia was persecuting and killing religious people just a few decades ago, burning down churches, mosques and temples alike -- all in the name of communism. And now these people believe Russia is a beacon of freedom and all things christian.

Most of the expats who want to move to the village are Catholics and "strongly believe in the prediction that Russia will remain the only Christian country in the world," Beslangurov said.

Next edition of Global Traveler USA -- own your own peninsula in North Korea -- pursue your dreams in the land of opportunity!

a reply to: Mahogany

the delusions these people are under are just astounding

It looks like delusions might be universal!

Today, they have 70 genders

Russia was persecuting and killing religious people just a few decades ago, burning down churches, mosques and temples alike

And the US had KKK, eugenic programs and human experiments-without knowledge or consent.

Every country seems to have more than its share of dark forces from on high. I can understand why God-fearing people are no longer comfortable in the US and are giving up hope.

a reply to: Mahogany

And now these people believe Russia is a beacon of freedom and all things christian.

Just because people would choose to eat dirt rather than whatever crap sandwich you're selling, doesn't mean they think it's high dining.

The irony of persecuting people while ridiculing them for feeling persecuted. All because your favorite bobbleheads currently have a Russia erection on top of their endless lust for dehumanizing anybody that dare have personal beliefs that didn't come out of a how-to manual for the 4th reich.

Hyperbole, ridicule of personal beliefs, bigotry. That's all it is. The rest is just a story about a tiny village, literally smaller than the homeless camps in Seattle and other liberal utopias.

Imagine feeling high and mighty lording it over these people while your favorite politicians let tens of thousands of citizens rot in the streets daily. Liberal priorities.

Thanks for posting the linked article(s)! I would not call this a dream come true, but I find it an encouraging sign.

A village of American and Canadian Catholics looking for freedom in a country known for anything but freedoms.

I think you are referring to the Soviet Union (1922-1991), gone for lo and verily 3 decades now. Even under the Soviets, the worst times and excesses were due to or under Stalin (led USSR 1924 till his death in 1953) (an ethnic Georgian).

Also worth mentioning that the Russians, now that they are not hardcore communist anymore, are hardcore Orthodox.

I personally wouldn't call them "hardcore" Orthodox. I see a culture (ethnic Russian) which was strongly discouraged (between 1922-1991) by the Soviets from practicing a religion (Russian Orthodox Christianity) that was central to their culture for 1000 years (starting in 988). See Religion in Russia for a breakdown of numbers. Atheists 13% + Believers-but-Non-Adherents 25.2% + Undeclared 5.5% = 43.7%, which exceeds Russian Orthodox 41.1%.

Note that like many other countries of northern Europe, official Christianity of the State took centuries to filter all the way down to the masses, This page Slavic Paganism has notes on the Continuity of Slavic religion in Russia up to the 15th Century... which is to say that within a lifetime of Christopher Columbus starting the Spanish craze of Bringing the poor benighted American natives to the light of Jesus (aka cultural and physical genocide of the Indians), at the other end of Europe, there were slavic Europeans still running around participating in pagan fertility rituals.
See the 1966 Tarkovsky film Andrei Rublev, about a very famous ikon painter (Andrei Rublev) wandering around for commisions to paint religious iconography. At 0:50 Andrei runs across what he calls a "Witch's Sabbath", replete with lots of insufficiently christianized peasant-villagers running about naked. At 0:55 a partially-clad young lady informs him that "this is the night when everyone must love" (fertility ritual). The film was meticulously researched, and produced under the Soviets. The actors are naked, but the scene is tastefully depicted, not tawdry. The director Andrei Tarkovsky is "Widely considered one of the greatest and most influential directors in cinema history", a must-watch director for students of cinematography.

And there is no constitution, no protections for any religion other than their own.

This sentence contains two blatant falsehoods. See Constitution of Russia and Freedom of religion in Russia.

They have freedom of Religion, and freedom of Conscience. Adults can choose alternative lifestyles (LGBTQRST++). What they DON'T HAVE, is the freedom to Proseletyze. You do you, but stop bothering other people by knocking on their doors or marching in the streets waving rainbow flags. While researching this comment to your post, I do find a lot of complaints about "freedom of religion". If you read into the claims however, I haven't found any that are not (a) they won't let me knock of strangers' doors to spread my good word, or (b) they wouldn't let us disrupt a public park to build a new church, or (c) they won't let us practice our strange cult in their existing church.

Russia is an extremely ethnically diverse country, with something like 100 languages/ethnicities. It is illegal to foster inter-ethnic or inter-religious strife: "Get along, or else." The other choice is "mostly peaceful" rioting, looting, burning and inter-racial strife as seen in the USA. IMHO, Russia is doing a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better job of keeping the peace. Check out Portland, Oregon and San Francisco, California for textbook examples of how NOT to do it.

The complaintants most cited to "prove" Russia is mean to religions are the Jehovah's Witnesses. I'm sure most Jehovah's Witnesses are mostly nice people, but you will have to go to extraordinary lengths to convince me that they are not an annoying joke to the other 99+% of Americans who are tired of being pestered.

Russia was persecuting and killing religious people just a few decades ago, burning down churches, mosques and temples alike -- all in the name of communism.

The Communists discouraged religion, true. Please provide specific examples of "burning down churches, mosques, temples". Maybe it happened, but I've never heard of this. There were a lot of closures, but by no means all. I find reference to priests killed, but under Stalin, every demographic was being targeted.

Churches and monastaries continued under the Soviets, despite the drop in adherents and priests. Even under the Soviets, and now still, the most iconic monument of Russia is Saint Basil's Cathedral in Red Square.

Now they are building many more: Russia’s Orthodox Church has Opened 30,000 Churches Over the Last 30 Years, and Russia Builds 3 New Churches a Day.

Not churches per se, but (orthodox) relgion: see The Island (2006). This is a visually beautiful movie about a man who let himself down during WWII, then washed ashore at a monastary in Russia's (USSR's) far north. He spends the rest of his life atoning for his sin.

Just to add to the riddle of Soviet Atheism, listen to RWA: Radio Deza: Soviet Occultism. This is from "Russian With Attitude". I have yet to catch them in an outright falsehood. In this linked podcast, they discuss (among other things), the role of Free-Masonry in the Bolshevik Revolution, and the spirituality of the Communist Elite who told the masses to be atheists. This was the first I've run across this plot-twist to the Soviet tale.

And now these people believe Russia is a beacon of freedom and all things christian.

Again, Russia is not the Soviets. Do your homework,and linearly extrapolate what is going on in the West (North American and Western Europe, + Australia & New Zealand). Russia is far from perfect. Linearly extrapolate the Russian trends. According to the trend lines, which direction do you prefer? It's that simple really.

I mean, people can go where they want to, it's their life, their freedoms...

You say this, and I agree. But please do some more homework before you label everyone delusional, who may evaluate differently from you.

Just Russian propaganda.

Let some nutty freedum-luvin' Americans move to Russia and discover what it means to live in a really crap country.

a reply to: paraphi

Exactly, an exercise in propaganda. Some might move there, after all, every country has misinformed people.

Cheers

a reply to: Mahogany

History repeats itself.. When Soviet Russia was formed many people all around the World moved to Russia for "equality and better living " from US more than a 1000 people. What happened to those people ? Most of them worked to death in Gulags.

Welcome to Russia... work.. die

a reply to: Mahogany

Or they could move to northern Idaho and join a messianic Christian militia.

originally posted by: paraphi
Let some nutty freedum-luvin' Americans move to Russia and discover what it means to live in a really crap country.

If the deal is not having to watch your country collapse from the inside, in exchange for being quiet and doing your job, a few folks just might take that offer.

Would advise waiting until after the Ukraine war, however it sorts out. Not impossible your new home could be under Chinese control, if not radioactive.

Move to Russia, they need cannon fodder in the Ukraine.

www.newsweek.com...

Wait ... you mean you and the rest of the American leftists aren't the only ones in the world who know how to virtue signal?!

/shocked face

A good parody from trusted Russian sources 😁

originally posted by: gb540
If the deal is not having to watch your country collapse from the inside,

Sorry that you are so negative. Maybe things will be alright in the end. After all, the US of A remains a better place to live than most places, even if you are all fat.

Have a little confidence in the future.

originally posted by: paraphi
Sorry that you are so negative. Maybe things will be alright in the end.

Not negative, realistic. Hard to keep the ol' chin up, when many areas are already Third Word and the leaders are doing their best to accelerate things.

olaru12's post is very correct though: nice try by Russia to get new conscripts! For all of America's problems, at least every able bodied person isn't likely to be pressed into military service (or not as of this post).

If I was a rich person I'd have to put that on my list of places to go to survive the Apocalypse. It seems to me the US is going to turn into a hell hole and along with most of Europe will be part of the kingdom of the Antichrist.

Avoiding the Mark in 7 to 10 years is going to be a big thing. Looking for the cheap seats and getting as far away as possible from all the Anti-Christ fuss will be another. If Russia and China don't destroy themselves first.

originally posted by: Mahogany
But anyway, 200 families have already signed up to move and live in this Moscow suburb that is scheduled to begin construction in 2024.

There are considerably more than 200 families born and living in the USA that absolutely hate their country. Most (maybe all) of them are liberal. Too bad we can't send them elsewhere.

Utah is a better option than anything they can provide.

Your idea needs to be taken a step further and we need to send all the America hating leftists to a socialist country and confiscate their wealth on their way out.

That would fix a lot of problems here in America.

a reply to: paraphi

originally posted by: paraphi
Just Russian propaganda.

Let some nutty freedum-luvin' Americans move to Russia and discover what it means to live in a really crap country.

The people I know from Russia love it there. What makes you think it's a crappy country? where did you get that impression?