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originally posted by: TruthThinker
See my previous post. I think we're going to have to use the Wayback Machine to find the original news reports, which doubtless say that he ENTERED THE HOUSE before he was shot... Now all we hear, over and over, is "ringing the wrong doorbell".
originally posted by: napayshni57
According to the police the old guy said the guy was pulling at the exterior door handle. Lester did call 911 from his home phone right after he fired the shots. Yarl told the cops he didn't touch the exterior screen door but the finger prints on the front door weren't the home owners. This article has the probable cause statement form by the police in it. The cops want an interview with Yarl but apparently at least until yesterday his mother isn't returning their calls.
nypost.com...
originally posted by: frogs453
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: frogs453
sometimes called "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law, provides that people may use deadly force when they reasonably believe it to be necessary to defend against certain violent crimes.
Sure, but I wasn't aware ringing a doorbell is a violent crime to defend yourself against.
originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: frogs453
That's not "standing your ground."
That's shooting first and checking later. Perhaps it was a bad neighborhood. Who knows, but he ought to be charged.
All this assuming there are no significant details left out.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: napayshni57
According to the police the old guy said the guy was pulling at the exterior door handle. Lester did call 911 from his home phone right after he fired the shots. Yarl told the cops he didn't touch the exterior screen door but the finger prints on the front door weren't the home owners. This article has the probable cause statement form by the police in it. The cops want an interview with Yarl but apparently at least until yesterday his mother isn't returning their calls.
nypost.com...
If I ring someone's doorbell, and they don't answer, I open their screen door and knock. He thought he was at the right house. A house occupied by people his parents and siblings knew.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
If I ring someone's doorbell, and they don't answer, I open their screen door and knock. He thought he was at the right house. A house occupied by people his parents and siblings knew.
originally posted by: JinMI
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: napayshni57
According to the police the old guy said the guy was pulling at the exterior door handle. Lester did call 911 from his home phone right after he fired the shots. Yarl told the cops he didn't touch the exterior screen door but the finger prints on the front door weren't the home owners. This article has the probable cause statement form by the police in it. The cops want an interview with Yarl but apparently at least until yesterday his mother isn't returning their calls.
nypost.com...
If I ring someone's doorbell, and they don't answer, I open their screen door and knock. He thought he was at the right house. A house occupied by people his parents and siblings knew.
Fair enough.
If im 80, live alone and sleep with a firearm handy, having my doorbell ring after 10pm would make me grab it too. And if I then hear my storm door opening, assume the worst.
I wonder why the sibling and parents both know where the actual house is, but not the teen who went to pick them up.
originally posted by: sarahvital
originally posted by: frogs453
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: frogs453
sometimes called "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law, provides that people may use deadly force when they reasonably believe it to be necessary to defend against certain violent crimes.
Sure, but I wasn't aware ringing a doorbell is a violent crime to defend yourself against.
i bet he won't be ringing any door bells himself, anytime soon remember the last time?
on the other hand, a couple pulled into a driveway to turn around and the home owner shot the girl dead in the passenger seat.
but she was white so won't hear much about it.
girl sjhot
originally posted by: AtomicKangaroo
geezus, I don't have enough popcorn for this one.
Love how ATS just jumps the gun these days and everyone has an opinion before anyone knows anything.
Well done peeps.
One day many of you might actually shut the fudge up until you ave some actual facts. But I doubt it.
Man, the state of this site these days.
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
originally posted by: AtomicKangaroo
geezus, I don't have enough popcorn for this one.
Love how ATS just jumps the gun these days and everyone has an opinion before anyone knows anything.
Well done peeps.
One day many of you might actually shut the fudge up until you ave some actual facts. But I doubt it.
Man, the state of this site these days.
I have noticed this vitriolic change.
I know it is by design. I just don’t know if it is the lifting of the veil and people’s true hearts and minds are being opened and displayed, or if this is the way they have always been but now they feel empowered to let their freak flags fly because, they know they can get support on the internet.
Not just ATS but the majority of the forums have become cesspools for depravity, hatred, and the spewing of divisive ideology. Tools for the system.
There are very few places to go for a sharing of ideas where you don’t have to agree but you do have to have to show respect. It is getting worse here because you cannot consume this much poison without becoming sick.