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originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
vaccinate let's say over 200 million Americans with these products. Can you do the math? You are getting over 250,000 serious adverse reactions in the short term (including deaths). The medium and long term effects are not known unless you are not LordAhriman but a prophet with magical powers.
Listen to yourself. Don't you think we'd notice that many people? I don't know anyone who knows anyone who has had a bad time with the vaccines aside from feeling crappy for a day or 2.
Classic denialism. Yes, everyone is noticing it but people in denial.
originally posted by: Salamandy
a reply to: Oldcarpy2
Sorry if maybe I’m off topic but I always get the feeling that people who are pro vaccine are not really arguing on behalf of the benefits o the vax, but more so the idea that they should be able to force or heavily coerce it on a person (loss of job or social restrictions of any kind)
And it sort of seems like they don’t wanna admit there real reason for sticking up for a vaccine like it was their deity
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
vaccinate let's say over 200 million Americans with these products. Can you do the math? You are getting over 250,000 serious adverse reactions in the short term (including deaths). The medium and long term effects are not known unless you are not LordAhriman but a prophet with magical powers.
Listen to yourself. Don't you think we'd notice that many people? I don't know anyone who knows anyone who has had a bad time with the vaccines aside from feeling crappy for a day or 2.
Classic denialism. Yes, everyone is noticing it but people in denial.
According to his super logic Covid-19 injuries don't exist either as many of us we haven't noticed any severe disease or know people who have become seriously ill or died due to the virus.
What a flawed argument!
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
vaccinate let's say over 200 million Americans with these products. Can you do the math? You are getting over 250,000 serious adverse reactions in the short term (including deaths). The medium and long term effects are not known unless you are not LordAhriman but a prophet with magical powers.
Listen to yourself. Don't you think we'd notice that many people? I don't know anyone who knows anyone who has had a bad time with the vaccines aside from feeling crappy for a day or 2.
Classic denialism. Yes, everyone is noticing it but people in denial.
According to his super logic Covid-19 injuries don't exist either as many of us we haven't noticed any severe disease or know people who have become seriously ill or died due to the virus.
What a flawed argument!
With most people vaccinated, that is exactly where the truth would be realized.
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
vaccinate let's say over 200 million Americans with these products. Can you do the math? You are getting over 250,000 serious adverse reactions in the short term (including deaths). The medium and long term effects are not known unless you are not LordAhriman but a prophet with magical powers.
Listen to yourself. Don't you think we'd notice that many people? I don't know anyone who knows anyone who has had a bad time with the vaccines aside from feeling crappy for a day or 2.
Classic denialism. Yes, everyone is noticing it but people in denial.
According to his super logic Covid-19 injuries don't exist either as many of us we haven't noticed any severe disease or know people who have become seriously ill or died due to the virus.
What a flawed argument!
With most people vaccinated, that is exactly where the truth would be realized.
I am afraid you are wrong on this just as in most other claims you have made.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
vaccinate let's say over 200 million Americans with these products. Can you do the math? You are getting over 250,000 serious adverse reactions in the short term (including deaths). The medium and long term effects are not known unless you are not LordAhriman but a prophet with magical powers.
Listen to yourself. Don't you think we'd notice that many people? I don't know anyone who knows anyone who has had a bad time with the vaccines aside from feeling crappy for a day or 2.
Classic denialism. Yes, everyone is noticing it but people in denial.
According to his super logic Covid-19 injuries don't exist either as many of us we haven't noticed any severe disease or know people who have become seriously ill or died due to the virus.
What a flawed argument!
With most people vaccinated, that is exactly where the truth would be realized.
I am afraid you are wrong on this just as in most other claims you have made.
I don't make claims, I refer people to experts that make the claims.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
vaccinate let's say over 200 million Americans with these products. Can you do the math? You are getting over 250,000 serious adverse reactions in the short term (including deaths). The medium and long term effects are not known unless you are not LordAhriman but a prophet with magical powers.
Listen to yourself. Don't you think we'd notice that many people? I don't know anyone who knows anyone who has had a bad time with the vaccines aside from feeling crappy for a day or 2.
Classic denialism. Yes, everyone is noticing it but people in denial.
According to his super logic Covid-19 injuries don't exist either as many of us we haven't noticed any severe disease or know people who have become seriously ill or died due to the virus.
What a flawed argument!
With most people vaccinated, that is exactly where the truth would be realized.
I am afraid you are wrong on this just as in most other claims you have made.
I don't make claims, I refer people to experts that make the claims.
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Apologetics and denialism? Is your oft repeated mantra.
Yet you engage in denialism of other dissenting opinions and experiences.
That's hypocrisy.
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
vaccinate let's say over 200 million Americans with these products. Can you do the math? You are getting over 250,000 serious adverse reactions in the short term (including deaths). The medium and long term effects are not known unless you are not LordAhriman but a prophet with magical powers.
Listen to yourself. Don't you think we'd notice that many people? I don't know anyone who knows anyone who has had a bad time with the vaccines aside from feeling crappy for a day or 2.
Classic denialism. Yes, everyone is noticing it but people in denial.
According to his super logic Covid-19 injuries don't exist either as many of us we haven't noticed any severe disease or know people who have become seriously ill or died due to the virus.
What a flawed argument!
With most people vaccinated, that is exactly where the truth would be realized.
I am afraid you are wrong on this just as in most other claims you have made.
I don't make claims, I refer people to experts that make the claims.
How is herd immunity through vaccination? Have we achieved that yet? Another terrible and flaws argument without even applying the definition of herd immunity. Just blindly trying to link articles without using common sense.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
vaccinate let's say over 200 million Americans with these products. Can you do the math? You are getting over 250,000 serious adverse reactions in the short term (including deaths). The medium and long term effects are not known unless you are not LordAhriman but a prophet with magical powers.
Listen to yourself. Don't you think we'd notice that many people? I don't know anyone who knows anyone who has had a bad time with the vaccines aside from feeling crappy for a day or 2.
Classic denialism. Yes, everyone is noticing it but people in denial.
According to his super logic Covid-19 injuries don't exist either as many of us we haven't noticed any severe disease or know people who have become seriously ill or died due to the virus.
What a flawed argument!
With most people vaccinated, that is exactly where the truth would be realized.
I am afraid you are wrong on this just as in most other claims you have made.
I don't make claims, I refer people to experts that make the claims.
How is herd immunity through vaccination? Have we achieved that yet? Another terrible and flaws argument without even applying the definition of herd immunity. Just blindly trying to link articles without using common sense.
Common sense is lacking here because when we look at one element, such as herd immunity, we then lose the big picture.
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3
There you go again "Black is white", "up is down", rinse and repeat.
Misrepresent what I actually say. Over and over.
You missed the bit where I spoke of denialism of other folks' "experiences", not just "opinions".
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: Asmodeus3
vaccinate let's say over 200 million Americans with these products. Can you do the math? You are getting over 250,000 serious adverse reactions in the short term (including deaths). The medium and long term effects are not known unless you are not LordAhriman but a prophet with magical powers.
Listen to yourself. Don't you think we'd notice that many people? I don't know anyone who knows anyone who has had a bad time with the vaccines aside from feeling crappy for a day or 2.
Classic denialism. Yes, everyone is noticing it but people in denial.
According to his super logic Covid-19 injuries don't exist either as many of us we haven't noticed any severe disease or know people who have become seriously ill or died due to the virus.
What a flawed argument!
With most people vaccinated, that is exactly where the truth would be realized.
I am afraid you are wrong on this just as in most other claims you have made.
I don't make claims, I refer people to experts that make the claims.
How is herd immunity through vaccination? Have we achieved that yet? Another terrible and flaws argument without even applying the definition of herd immunity. Just blindly trying to link articles without using common sense.
Common sense is lacking here because when we look at one element, such as herd immunity, we then lose the big picture.
Aaaah I see! Moving the bar and a bit of philosophy that still doesn't help the argument...
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Salamandy
Maybe, but like I say, I have never been in favour of forcing people or mandates.
I have said, many times, that it should be a personal choice.
I am not "pro vaccine" far less is it my "deity", I just call out bs when I see it as in "Deny ignorance".
Yet whenever a poster does just that they immediately get labelled a "pro vaccine" "vaccine apologist" in like a Pavlovian knee jerk response.
It's just tiresome.
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Asmodeus3
How patronizing and untrue.
I'm not remotely left wing or a lefty yet again you adopt the mantra that if you repeat a lie often enough....wait, I seem to recall that was a propaganda tactic of some fascist party or other in the 1940s?