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originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Asmodeus3
What we are seeing is unprecedented unless you lived under Stalin. Total censorship of all major platforms which do not agree with the current government narrative., and those same governments' refusal to have an open discussion, with all Western governments acting in the same manner. This really is the end game whichever way you want to spin it. Fact check that.
You should time your posts differently. I can literally read 6 posts of you and zombies rapid fire posting back and forth and it reads like a long post from the same person.
World deaths... The W.H.O. claim approx' 614,385,693 people have died from covid which is about 7% talking the world population as 7.8 billion. WHO I also added to total deaths stated by the WHO for worldwide figures I posted websites to show were the figures have come from, you know evidence! Something you seem to to not do...
Yes it's my opinion that they are terrible and dont need much more than this when I criticise self-proclaimed arbiters of truth. Even the idea of a fact checkers is so absurd and ludicrous. Yes scientific illiteracy doesn't only come from the left, it can come from the right too. But I wasn't discussing them. I was commenting on the fact checkers which in my view they are just ludicrous. Nobody is an arbiter of truth.
Usually on the far left of the spectrum.
originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Yes it's my opinion that they are terrible and dont need much more than this when I criticise self-proclaimed arbiters of truth. Even the idea of a fact checkers is so absurd and ludicrous. Yes scientific illiteracy doesn't only come from the left, it can come from the right too. But I wasn't discussing them. I was commenting on the fact checkers which in my view they are just ludicrous. Nobody is an arbiter of truth.
Funny that you say your not discussing that here when it was you who said..
Usually on the far left of the spectrum.
In an attempt to infer factchecking websites are left biased when thats not true, most media against the vaccine are just opinion peices on bitchute and facebook, with a right leaning with people claiming them as fact. An attempt to check where the data has come from and if it's sponsered is always good. Also, it's about provable data and not about being an arbiter of truth. We all know Star Wars, quote "What I Told You Was True, From A Certain Point Of View."
originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3
Yes it's my opinion that they are terrible and dont need much more than this when I criticise self-proclaimed arbiters of truth. Even the idea of a fact checkers is so absurd and ludicrous. Yes scientific illiteracy doesn't only come from the left, it can come from the right too. But I wasn't discussing them. I was commenting on the fact checkers which in my view they are just ludicrous. Nobody is an arbiter of truth.
Funny that you say your not discussing that here when it was you who said..
Usually on the far left of the spectrum.
In an attempt to infer factchecking websites are left biased when thats not true, most media against the vaccine are just opinion peices on bitchute and facebook, with a right leaning with people claiming them as fact. An attempt to check where the data has come from and if it's sponsered is always good. Also, it's about provable data and not about being an arbiter of truth. We all know Star Wars, quote "What I Told You Was True, From A Certain Point Of View."
originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3
I see you see everything here as either left or right, which is a shame, and incorrect. It's about data and if the data thats posted is correct or posted honestly or just doom porn.
The article posted here was an attempt at doom porn, which was proven incorrect.
And yes left and right exist but I am not consumed in either side. The left though in our days has become something very interesting, something else. Any news on Covid -19 is regarded Misinformation as they push the mass vaccination ideology and doom n gloom scenarios although Covid is a mild disease for most of us.
Calling some a "Doom Porn crew" is just killing the messenger and you can scroll by if it is too inflammatory. I avoid other threads for that reason as it simply comes down to personal beliefs and the argument cannot be won. Since this event is still unfolding the info is still coming.
What if what is stated in these threads is true?
What if there is an agenda to control the population at play?
None of us who think it might possibly be real, and to the detriment of society, are going to stop looking into it because others descend on the thread to rip it apart. It doesn't work that way.
originally posted by: thethinkingman
a reply to: anonentity
I think the tactic with all of this stuff is to ignore it for aslong as possible to rile people up, so THOSE people look crazed because ...some of them are gonna over react after being ignored over and over. If people just were saying up was down and day time was night time.... its maddening.
Its like if you witnessed an insane crime and everyone just turned away everytime you tried to tell anyone about it, it would drive you completely nuts. It then can make these people just anticipate there will be no reasoning due to their memories experiencing being ignored multiple times previously.
Thats all these people are doing, its psychological. Then they come along later and say everything you were saying, like they're the nobel ones. They're watching the internet, they analyse the data. They see what people are saying so they can figure out all the best ways to manipulate and how to answer questions...
They see all the best points that people react too, the popular things....they can do whatever they want. Find the major voices of dissent, crush them....see what people are responding too, see what they like and dont like....they use all this so they can script what they're going to say or do.... a liar is better to be prepared for how they will be questioned....this is why liars NEVER have debates live. This is why none of these people will talk with anyone with opposing points of view.
Its crazy man. They want you to live a lie so they can seem right, so they can seem great and successful, it makes you wanna puke.
The sad thing is, someone with an innocent mind isnt going to think these people are such liars because the innocent minded person is so unlike that, is so non manipulating, it would be difficult and also horrible for them to imagine or to realise this is what is actually happening and its that simple.
originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3
And yes left and right exist but I am not consumed in either side. The left though in our days has become something very interesting, something else. Any news on Covid -19 is regarded Misinformation as they push the mass vaccination ideology and doom n gloom scenarios although Covid is a mild disease for most of us.
But you bias jumps out right there in that quote, the majority of "doom porn" posted to this site is right-wing biased and linked to right-wing websites. I don't see many threads with headlines on ATS from left leaning websites?
Even though I don't agree with all the green ideologies, I know fossil fuel and coal are dirty, why is that left leaning? Also, the predictions for the end of the world are right ring religious groups not left.
Hysteric rhetoric is common from both far ends of the political spectrum, not just one side.
I see you picked Asmodeus as your screen name, the worst of the Demons...