Mikhail Gorbachev, former Soviet leader who oversaw end of Cold War, dead at 91

The Tass, RIA Novosti and Interfax news agencies cited the Central Clinical Hospital. Gorbachev's office said earlier that he was undergoing treatment at the hospital after a serious and long illness. No further details were given.

The short article is worth the read for those inclined, but here's a snippet I found to be interesting if somewhat poignant...

"Mikhail Gorbachev is as much respected in the West, as he is detested in Russia," Former Defense Intelligence Agency officer Rebekah Koffler told Fox News. "To westerners he brought openness and rebuilding (glasnost and perestroika) and for the Russians, he destroyed the USSR.

RIP Mr. Gorbachev. At least in the Western world, history has been kind to you.

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He was controversial, but a good man, I think. Rest in Peace.

Another freemason went away. I am happy about it

originally posted by: SimeonJ
Another freemason went away. I am happy about it

Just for you :
Why was Gorbachev banned from Freemasonry?
Read the first post .
All of the first post.
Come back and edit that out .

Gorbachev eased Russia toward a closer tie with the West.
It took the US years to drive em back away .
The easiest way to make an enemy is to create one .

a reply to: Gothmog

The same site which claims that the covid vaccines are safe? Come on.

Now read my post:
Lenin, Stalin, etc all of them were freemasons. They did the testing ground for the great reset.

Rest in peace, Mr. Gorbachev.

a reply to: Klassified

One of the Worlds great political figures , a man who brought hope to Russia and relief to those who had lived through the era of Mutually Assured Destruction.

RiP Mikhail Gorbachev.

It is very likely that a separate cauldron has been prepared for him in hell.

a reply to: turretless

It is very likely that a separate cauldron has been prepared for him in hell.

Why?

a reply to: Freeborn

Because of the break up of the USSR.

Putin and his minions cry about it every night hence Putin is not going to Gorbachev's funeral.

Duetting ... with Mikhail Gorbachev..

I wish I could throw some big names in there for you sweetheart, but they beat you to it.

God Bless You.

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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: turretless

It is very likely that a separate cauldron has been prepared for him in hell.

Why?

For millions of people in the USSR, this ghoul ruined their lives.

I'd rather say there was a ghoulish system, with a decent man in it.

a reply to: turretless

For millions of people in the USSR, this ghoul ruined their lives.

I guess all that hunger and oppression sat well with some , for most not so well which is why at the first opportunity they made a break for freedom.

a reply to: turretless

How?

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: turretless

For millions of people in the USSR, this ghoul ruined their lives.

I guess all that hunger and oppression sat well with some , for most not so well which is why at the first opportunity they made a break for freedom.

There was no hunger in the USSR before Gorbachev, but he really brought the country to empty shelves in stores.

And people faced real oppression only after the collapse of the USSR, when the rich appeared and began to oppress the poor.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: turretless

How?

He launched the process of discrediting the USSR in the eyes of the citizens of the USSR.

He helped the emergence and financial strengthening of the Russian mafia through the establishment of prohibition (he should have known that this is how the US mafia grew up).

He introduced the existence of other non-socialist forms of ownership.

He did not interfere with all kinds of nationalists.

In general, he did everything possible to make the USSR cease to exist.

And when he prepared the collapse of the USSR, he resigned. (He resigned on December 25, 1991, and on December 26, 1991, the Council of the Republics of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR adopted a declaration on the demise of the USSR.)

And the collapse of the USSR led to the word of the country's social system, as a result of which, as I already wrote "For millions of people in the USSR their lives were ruined."

For example, can you imagine what it was like for a professor or academician to stand in the market and try to sell some personal items left over from a state of former well-being.

a reply to: turretless

He launched the process of discrediting the USSR in the eyes of the citizens of the USSR.

Not necessarily a bad thing in many people's opinion, certainly outside of Russia.
Particularly those in ex-Warsaw Pact countries who suffered under Soviet rule.

And lets be honest, it was a dreary miserable existence under the Soviets.

He helped the emergence and financial strengthening of the Russian mafia through the establishment of prohibition (he should have known that this is how the US mafia grew up).

What 'prohibition'?

And lets face it, subsequent Russian leaders have done absolutely nothing to prevent the power and influence of the corrupt Oligarchs and Mafia.
And no-one has been more complicit than you know who, your beloved Putin has amassed a personal fortune of between 400-600 Billion dollars on an annual saluary of just over $100,000 per year.

He introduced the existence of other non-socialist forms of ownership.

So, you want to go back to a State controlled economy etc?

He did not interfere with all kinds of nationalists.

What would you have had him do?

In general, he did everything possible to make the USSR cease to exist.

Because it was rotten and corrupt and certainly didn't have the best interests of the Russian people at heart.
Neither does the society that Putin has created, but if you guys are happy with that I guess its entirely up to you.

Its pretty obvious you desire for a return to dark days of The Cold War, the ever present threat of nuclear destruction, of little or no freedom of thought, belief and opinion.
Well rest assured, Putin seems to doing his best to take the world back 50 years whilst at the same time being knacker deep in the endemic corruption that is rampant throughout Russia.

a reply to: Freeborn

Gorbachev prepared the country for the West to take over power in Russia.

The West seized this power and imposed Yeltsin on us - www.abovetopsecret.com...

American advisers sat everywhere in Russian state institutions.

In 1992, Yeltsin released fixed Soviet prices and inflation for the year amounted to 2,508.85%.

It will be understood that after that, any savings disappeared from the Soviet people.

A few months after the population became impoverished, state-owned enterprises were privatized.

They were bought by Western corporations (they had money, unlike the population of Russia).

Western corporations have appointed formal owners (oligarchs) to supervise their property.

Usually, for this purpose, people were chosen by people who had a "spare" homeland, that is, Jews.

Western corporations, having bought out Russian enterprises, closed most of them as their competitors (with the exception of companies that extracted some minerals for them).

As a result, millions of people in Russia were left without work.

The same thing happened in all post-Soviet countries.

None of them has become an industrial leader.

And now Putin has been taking back control of Russia for years, and he is doing it quite successfully.

This circumstance caused the rabid hatred towards him in the West.


In conclusion, I say that life in the USSR was much better than what Western propaganda describes.

Did you have the chance to ask any Armenians on the street as well as Armenian Americans if they saw Gorbachev's tenure as a game-changer for Armenia, given that Armenia during the last months of Gorbachev's rule became independent for the first time since May 1918?