Covid mrna: don't just tell me this is fake

Fellow ATSers. This young man tells in full view that in 2013 he participated in an mrna trial of 200,000 subjects and that he is one of the five survivors of that trial. It can't be true. 200,000 test participants?? But then I think of the words of the famous Dr Dolores Cahill: 'Anyone who has received even one mRNA injection will die within five years'. I am not afraid of death. But I have some people who are oh so dear to me...
Maybe someone of you know the guy. Is he a lunatic? Or not? Than he belongs in prison if he lies. This is completely different from predicting that people will die. Prediction can go wrong... I am ok with that. But knowingly lying about such a crime that already has happened ... and that only to scare people in times like these ... that's a crime by itself.
Or he's telling the truth ... however slim that chance is.
If anyone can shed more light on this person, thank you.

ussanews.com... alive-today/

It’s not a crime, it’s a parliamentary privilege!! Lol I’m joking. But it’s only funny cause it’s true.

a reply to: zandra

a reply to: zandra

Well if we're going by the statistics 200,000 would easily fit into the number of heart attacks that kill people in a year within the USA alone.

"In 2015, nearly 634,000 people died of heart disease"

"About 697,000 people in the United States died from heart disease in 2020"

"Has the rate of heart attacks increased in 2021?
Heart attack instances were definitely on the rise in 2021"

Since 2013 the numbers have increased each year. It would be hard not to notice a 200,000 increase of heart attacks on top of the normal numbers, provided the statistics were released correctly, but we all know how that goes.

a reply to: ArchangelOger

I don't think the 200,000 all died in one year but I can't find
the article ether.

Okay got it.

It has been discussed in another thread, I can't remember which thread, but 200k for a trial is way too much.

They don't need to use that ridiculously high number for a trial. More like a trial would be 2k, maybe 3k max.

a reply to: Dalamax

I don't think this guy is a MP :-)
What I do know is that there have been (and still are) trials that nobody hears about afterwards. 200,000 is an almost impossible high number at first glance, but if the persons are spread over different countries... who knows?
I keep thinking that this young man -if he lies- belongs in prison or in a mental institution.

a reply to: zandra

how did he survive if it were that deadly? Where did Dolores Cahill say people would die within 5 years? And why that time frame. It doesn’t make sense.

As for prison or a mental institution yeah put him in there with the covid jab pushers and politicians.

The source material is a bitchute video. I drilled down three times, each article was worded exactly the same and the source was a video. In that last drill down is this comment that were my thoughts as well . . .

Occams says:
A couple of side-notes;

There WERE Animal Trials. Over the last 20 years. 5 species, 100% fatality rate. Some animals were in such horrific pain they had to be put down.

Nice, huh? And they couldn’t reveal the results of those trials, as it might have scared off a fair percentage. Ergo; “We had to skip Animal Trials to get this quickly to market!”

a reply to: surfer_soul
I don't want to play the devil's advocate, but he may well be one of the survivors.
And the link to the video where Dr. Cahill says everyone -even if they're vaccinated just once with an mRNA vaccine- will die within five years is well known. Search for it on Brave or Duckduckgo. Thanks anyway.
ps: if you don't find the link I will look it up for you this evening.

That's a lot of excess deaths to hide, and if they look sufficiently like natural causes to be hidden then they're going to be by extension impossible to sift out of the background noise of natural causes so that it can be verified.

a reply to: zandra

In these trials there is always a placebo group, so what happened with that group?
200,000 sounds way to high for a trial too, how is that even possible?

I respect what dr Cahill has said but she can’t know that people will die within 5 years only make a prediction of worst case scenario or something.What puzzles me is I know plenty of elderly people that took all jabs and are doing fine, yet some young healthy people are dropping dead because of them? The only explanation can be they haven’t been administered the same tea, if you catch my drift.

Anyway there is something very fishy about the guys claim, I’m well aware of plants being put out there to muddy the waters with far out claims to make the legit ones also look crazy. Could be one of those.

a reply to: zandra

This young man tells in full view that in 2013 he participated in an mrna trial of 200,000 subjects and that he is one of the five survivors of that trial.

How does he know who the other 19,995 were and that they are no longer here ?

Of course it's BS.

a reply to: zandra


It's fake

originally posted by: AndyMayhew
a reply to: zandra


It's fake

well, he did ask for it.

originally posted by: ArchangelOger
a reply to: zandra

Well if we're going by the statistics 200,000 would easily fit into the number of heart attacks that kill people in a year within the USA alone.

"In 2015, nearly 634,000 people died of heart disease"

"About 697,000 people in the United States died from heart disease in 2020"

"Has the rate of heart attacks increased in 2021?
Heart attack instances were definitely on the rise in 2021"

Since 2013 the numbers have increased each year. It would be hard not to notice a 200,000 increase of heart attacks on top of the normal numbers, provided the statistics were released correctly, but we all know how that goes.

The aging population is growing rapidly year by year, so the increase in heart disease wouldn't be unusual or unexpected. We have to assume the data isn't being selectively picked through to present a favored picture the top brass want us to believe.
Sooner or later the entire truth is going to come out; they just need lots of good cover stories to absolve them of any guilt as things unfold. If the can drip-feed the release of facts most people won't be able to put the whole picture together to realize intent.

a reply to: gortex
It's 199,995 and he says there are less than five survivors. So it's 1999;996 at least who are death now. LOL but it is what it is.
Correction: the guy says what he says.
200.000 in a trial? We are now in a trial of millions. And who knows for sure how many will die within 5 years?
Go to minute 8.40 and tell me seriously if Dr Cahill meant what she said or not. I'm not a specialist in body language but to my she's bloody serious. And please tell me if there is someone ATS smarter than Dr Dolores Cahill (concerning mrna vaccines of course).
adversereactionreport.com...
The only difference between what dr Cahill said and what the freaky looking guy says is that he says it already happened in the past ... in a trial. Dr Cahill talks about the future. So I give dr Cahill some credit but the guy belongs in jail if he lies. This thing can go viral and hurt many people. What dr Cahill said can hurt also many people but she makes a prediction. A big difference. That's my opinion. Freedom of speech has it's limits (there are examples).
It seems like there were only mrna trials on animals in the past, but the year 2013 happens to fit into the picture of trials around mRNA vaccines. Who knows for sure what happened? If it is true what the guy says, I hope they have learned from their mistakes.
I still got no answer to my question. Just tell me the guy is a lunatic BECAUSE .... (I'm still not convinced).
BTW: Why dr Cahill makes such a bold statement? Does she knows more?
Must say I agree too with surfer_soul's last § !

a reply to: network dude

It's fake, it's fake, it's fake ... if everyone of you says 'it's fake' .... oke then ... it's fake ...
I knew I was sticking my neck out. Although I asked not to say the fake word without arguments. The arguments given are inadequate to me. I feel in my heart the guy is crazy but I thought that someone of you would know that he posted already other crazy things.

a reply to: zandra

It sounds like you're pretty well convinced and there's unlikely to be any argument that could move you.

I will say if someone tells a preposterous story, people are entitled to think it's unlikely to be true and ask for receipts.

a reply to: oikos

If it is a depopulation program, they would have had to do trials to make sure it worked. But most likely in countries where the rulers were paid handsomely and the people who died would not be noticed.

Your argument seems logical on the face of it, however would they truly have to do trials that way. Surely they’re very words condemn them?

The worlds first truly global experiment. The control group, ironically, is the people who take control and refuse to comply.

All payments circle back to the pockets of political families, for want of a better term, the narrative flows like a river between a pair of banks.

There is more economic comparison for contemplation in the water cycle analogy. It’s a thought exercise worth conducting in my opinion, for the big picture thinking process alone.

a reply to: anonentity