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originally posted by: poncho1982
a reply to: MiddleInsite
No, it was supposed to PREVENT COVID.
That's what vaccines do, they prevent disease.
Anyone getting Polio Lite after the Polio Vaccine?
I refused to take the mRNA vaccine. I took the JJ, and I'm still dealing with side effects almost a year later.
Oh, AND I had a not mild case of COVID a month ago, and it was pretty bad for me. Couldn't eat for 6 days.
Why did I take it again?
If it works so well, why are fully vaxxed and boosted people going to the Hospital with severe COVID?
I have a 75 year old coworker, who had both mRNA Pfizer shots, got a Pfizer booster, and a Moderna booster.
He's had COVID for 3 weeks now, and can barely breathe.
Pretty sure he has buyers remorse now.
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Notabot12345666
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Notabot12345666
a reply to: incoserv
Yeah, if you look at a box of masks, it says right on the box the masks it do NOT provide any protection from covid 19.
But you know....cults
MAYO CLINIC -- but what do they know, right?
Mayo Clinic Minute: Study shows masks can prevent COVID-19 -- July 29, 2021
Mayo Clinic researchers recently published a study that shows the proper use of masks reduces the spread of respiratory droplets. The findings strongly support the protective value and effectiveness of widespread mask use and maintaining physical distance in reducing the spread of COVID-19.
"We found objectively that masks are critically important. They're very effective at protecting the people around you. If you're wearing a mask, you're protecting others. If they're wearing masks, they're protecting you," says Dr. Matthew Callstrom, a Mayo Clinic radiologist and one of the study's auth
newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org...
If that was true the manufacturers of the masks should put it on the box; they would surely sell more....except they can’t put that on the box- because it’s not true and they would be sued out of business.
If you’re as old as you say you are, you should be explaining this to me, not the other way around.
Key phrase: worn correctly.
Makers of masks can not guarantee a person will wear it correctly.
And we've seen "those people".
Are you covering your eyes too? Because that's a massive entry point. Smoke particles are bigger than a virus, if you blow smoke through your mask will it come out, or is it a chain link fence used to keep mosquitoes out?
Masks are a psychological tool, and for that they work very well.
originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: Annee
So he was just too lazy to charge him?
Deny deny deny
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Notabot12345666
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Notabot12345666
a reply to: incoserv
Yeah, if you look at a box of masks, it says right on the box the masks it do NOT provide any protection from covid 19.
But you know....cults
MAYO CLINIC -- but what do they know, right?
Mayo Clinic Minute: Study shows masks can prevent COVID-19 -- July 29, 2021
Mayo Clinic researchers recently published a study that shows the proper use of masks reduces the spread of respiratory droplets. The findings strongly support the protective value and effectiveness of widespread mask use and maintaining physical distance in reducing the spread of COVID-19.
"We found objectively that masks are critically important. They're very effective at protecting the people around you. If you're wearing a mask, you're protecting others. If they're wearing masks, they're protecting you," says Dr. Matthew Callstrom, a Mayo Clinic radiologist and one of the study's auth
newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org...
If that was true the manufacturers of the masks should put it on the box; they would surely sell more....except they can’t put that on the box- because it’s not true and they would be sued out of business.
If you’re as old as you say you are, you should be explaining this to me, not the other way around.
Key phrase: worn correctly.
Makers of masks can not guarantee a person will wear it correctly.
And we've seen "those people".
Are you covering your eyes too? Because that's a massive entry point. Smoke particles are bigger than a virus, if you blow smoke through your mask will it come out, or is it a chain link fence used to keep mosquitoes out?
Masks are a psychological tool, and for that they work very well.
Masks don't stop the virus; they stop the water droplets that the virus piggybacks on.
Even when they don't stop the droplets they slow them down, less energy means that they don't travel so far.
Masks don't offer 100 protection, they're one tool in reducing transmission rates, like social distancing, hand washing, and the second amendment.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: Annee
So he was just too lazy to charge him?
Deny deny deny
Keep making excuses.
originally posted by: underpass61
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: Annee
So he was just too lazy to charge him?
Deny deny deny
Keep making excuses.
All the ominous and empty words in the world won't change the fact that Trump walks free.
THAT is undeniable.
originally posted by: MiddleInsite
I did my own research. Made up my own mind. Got both vaccines AND the booster, and I DO NOT have buyer's remorse.
What exactly did you think the vaccine was supposed to do? Cure Covid?
You were either mislead or didn't listen closely enough.
a reply to: incoserv
originally posted by: thebtheb
But the most mind blowing thing is that these same people do NOT remember that it was "supposed to stop infection." Every piece of fresh BS that is fed to them, such as "Oh it doesn't stop transmission but it makes your case less severe" is accepted and now employed as if it had always been that way.
I guess if you incrementally and slowly BS people, they can be fooled.
originally posted by: thebtheb
People like Robert Malone were simply indoctrinated by their own profession. Sure, they may have seen the huge push as unnecessary, but there was no reason for them to question the vaccine itself, because they'd been working with and believed in vaccines for years.
Many doctors don't actually research anything. They depend on their administration above to feed them pertinent facts, and that administration depends on still higher administrations who depend on the CDC and..... no one really investigates anything.
What blows ME away is how so many everyday people thought the vaccine was going to stop transmission. It was never going to - I knew that before it came out. And some people were so surprised. "Oh I got covid anyway." But the most mind blowing thing is that these same people do NOT remember that it was "supposed to stop infection." Every piece of fresh BS that is fed to them, such as "Oh it doesn't stop transmission but it makes your case less severe" is accepted and now employed as if it had always been that way.
I guess if you incrementally and slowly BS people, they can be fooled.
originally posted by: Bob350
a reply to: LSU2018
Colleges at one time taught students HOW to think not WHAT to think. This does not happen any longer at the large colleges and universities.
There is a very large difference between the two.
originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly
originally posted by: incoserv
originally posted by: MiddleInsite
I did my own research. Made up my own mind. Got both vaccines AND the booster, and I DO NOT have buyer's remorse.
What exactly did you think the vaccine was supposed to do? Cure Covid?
You were either mislead or didn't listen closely enough.
a reply to: incoserv
As I further ponder your reply, here are my questions:
1. What research did you do that convinced you? I find this to be a particularly perplexing claim as there was really no relevant or pertinent information released to the public regarding the injections before they were sent out. Even now, Pfizer has been fighting the release of documents related to the concoction, trying to keep from public scrutiny any information regarding the formulation and the testing of it. Seriously, where did you find enough information to do any useful research? One of the things that turned me against it from the beginning was the lack of any information that would have allowed me fully informed consent before taking it. There just was none. What "research" covinced you? I'd really like to know.
(Related to that thought, I have a friend who will not eat in restaurants because she wants to see the food that it prepared before she puts it into her body. She did, however, take the injections like a good little subject, allowing them to put stuff into her body the contents of which she had absolutely no idea.)
2. No, I never expected it to "cure covid." They never said it would. They said that it would keep me from contracting the virus. This was a lie! It doesn't even do that. And don't feed me the crap about it making infection less severe. We all know now that that is a lie, and the the illness has well under a 1% fatality rate, anyway. So, what did you expect it to do? Did you think that it would "cure covid?" Or did you expect it to protect everyone who took the shot to never get sick? If so, how do you feel now that you know you were lied to? Because you were!
(Why do I get the feeling that MiddleInsite won't answer these questions?)
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"(Related to that thought, I have a friend who will not eat in restaurants because she wants to see the food that it prepared before she puts it into her body. She did, however, take the injections like a good little subject, allowing them to put stuff into her body the contents of which she had absolutely no idea.)"
This claim is ridiculous.. They published content lists for all the vaccines, we knew exactly what was in them...
It's just the lunatics on here that claimed, in fact swore, that they magnetised you, then they made you glow, then they had graphine in them, then dead babies, then microchips...
See, when you type out the list it's even more hilarious...
PA
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: MiddleInsite
I did my own research. Made up my own mind. Got both vaccines AND the booster, and I DO NOT have buyer's remorse.
What exactly did you think the vaccine was supposed to do? Cure Covid?
You were either mislead or didn't listen closely enough.
a reply to: incoserv
Me too.
It was made very clear from the beginning that it was about not spreading the virus.
Spock says, “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”
You are just going to continue ignoring that the shot was "going to keep you from getting covid" official line from Fauci, Kamala and Joe then we keep having examples of for you in denial?
So genuine leftist insanity in action of you to share your denial of facts with us.
And you're going to continue to believe what you believe.
With chosen "proof".
The thing is, and I will not say anymore. This is in YOUR face as you deny, deny away. I recall you were a Russia, Russia, Russian stole 2016 hoaxer.
And you "guys" completely ignore this: Trump was not exonerated by my report, Robert Mueller tells Congress
I'm not the one in denial.
originally posted by: incoserv
This is a question that I've bounced around as a reply to other threads, but I'd like to see a discussion on it, get some other folks' ideas.
You see, when it comes to things like virology, vaccinnes, medicine in general, I'm a self-professed idiot. I have a high school diploma and an IT certificaiton from tech school. I'm well read and have been told many times by friends that they considerme "intelligent," whatever that might mean. I am, however, not, by any means, a scholar when it comes to things like virology, medicine, the development of vaccines, etc.
I hear about people like Robert Malone and now the Israeli doctor - Professor Shmuel Shapira - who took the damnned shot willingly and now are decrying it as a horrible mistake.
I still don't get it.
When the thing was first announced, it was like sirens and flashing lights went off in my head. There were, IMO, so many red flags, so many things that just didn't add up. I (like many others here and many around the world) said, HELL NO!. Despite social pressure, peer pressure, some even undergoing economic sanctions, we held fast. We refuseed to comply. Now, after all the trash talk that we endured, we're being proven right - more so every day.
However, there seems to have been so many of these educated people who walked right into the trap, who rolled up their sleeve and took the injections. I'm not talking about people who were pressured into it by freaked out family or coerced by employers in order to keep their jobs. I'm talking about doctors and other professionals who not only took the injections willingly but encouraged others to do so. Then suddenly they get buyer's remorse (the ones that don't drop dead).
How? Why? I'm really at a loss to comprehend it. How did idiots like me know exactly what was happening and more or less what was going to happen while these educated fools walked right into it?
I'm sincerly confused about it.
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