Does Russia now control 30 percent of Ukraine?

Here is a list* of the countries bombed and/or invaded by the United States from the end of the Second World War to 2020:

Afghanistan 1998, 2001-
Bosnia 1994, 1995
Cambodia 1969-70
China 1945-46
Congo 1964
Cuba 1959-1961
El Salvador 1980s
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958 Laos 1964-73
Grenada 1983
Iraq 1991-2000s, 2015-
Iran 1987
Korea 1950-53
Kuwait 1991
Lebanon 1983, 1984
Libya 1986, 2011-
Nicaragua 1980s
Pakistan 2003, 2006-
Palestine 2010
Panama 1989
Peru 1965
Somalia 1993, 2007-08, 2010-
Sudan 1998
Syria 2014-
Vietnam 1961-73
Yemen 2002, 2009-
Yugoslavia 1999

Note that these countries represent roughly one-third of the people on earth.

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a reply to: pheonix358


Did we steal any land or resources from any of them?

That was the absurd claim.

People keep forgetting that the DPR isn't going to give back anything. Their people call them freedom fighters. They are fighting for their existence even more so than Ukraine is.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
People keep forgetting that the DPR isn't going to give back anything. Their people call them freedom fighters. They are fighting for their existence even more so than Ukraine is.

The dpr is not a country, it's a part of Ukraine.

It doesn't matter what the russians in that Ukrainian region want, it's still a Ukrainian region.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: pheonix358


Did we steal any land or resources from any of them?

That was the absurd claim.

Nope. Only life, hope and liberty.

Maybe a little oil or gold here and there but nothing else you appear to value.

a reply to: Dalamax


Nothing that matches the original absurd claim?

Then why make the claim?

originally posted by: Grimpachi
People keep forgetting that the DPR isn't going to give back anything. Their people call them freedom fighters. They are fighting for their existence even more so than Ukraine is.

IMO there isnt a strategy where Ukraine keeps the Donbass as part of the western sphere. The best they can hope for is autonomous regions, essentially russian puppet states.

Ignoring that, war and death continue to escalate .

originally posted by: putnam6
So you believe Russia is just gonna eventually give up and go home?

Yes. Ukrainians want to live in Russian-free Ukraine much much much more than Russians want to live in Ukraine while being attacked by Ukrainians.

From the Russian's point of view: "what's in it for us?" Nothing really.

What's in it for Ukrainians? Everything.

So all we got to do is keep feeding Ukraine tens of billions in aid?

Yes.

FWIW last time this strategy was used it took 10 years for them to leave and our shipping of aid and weapons helped create Osama Bin Laden.

Osama Bin Laden was from Saudi Arabia. The aid to Afghanistan was to the Northern Alliance, enemies of Osama Bin Laden.

The USSR did eventually leave. Ukraine is fighting much more intensely and capably than Afghans did. It's sped up by 10x.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Grimpachi
People keep forgetting that the DPR isn't going to give back anything. Their people call them freedom fighters. They are fighting for their existence even more so than Ukraine is.

IMO there isnt a strategy where Ukraine keeps the Donbass as part of the western sphere. The best they can hope for is autonomous regions, essentially russian puppet states.

Ignoring that, war and death continue to escalate .

dpr is still part of Ukraine, everything except kicking the russians out is already settled.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Looks like Russia is currently holding it........

All the way south to Crimea. Exactly like I told you months back. /shrug

a reply to: pheonix358

Wow! I had no idea the United States has bombed so many counties AFTER World War II. Maybe doing so was a good deterrent? How many have bombed the USA?

a reply to: JinMI


Duh, russia invaded Ukraine to steal it's land and resources.

Not paying attention.

But nothing about russia's invasion will ever turn Ukrainian territory into someone else's territory.

a reply to: carewemust


Only 1, and everyone involved in that attack or that tried to hide those responsible paid an extremely heavy price for 20 years.

I doubt they try that again.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Crimea laughs at you...in Russian.


Prussia also says hello.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: carewemust


Only 1, and everyone involved in that attack or that tried to hide those responsible paid an extremely heavy price for 20 years.

I doubt they try that again.

False.

a reply to: JinMI


There was more than 1 group stupid enough to attack us?

(Other than the democrat party bombers of course)

a reply to: JinMI


They can laugh all they want, while they leave Ukrainian territory.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Looks like Russia is currently holding it........

All the way south to Crimea. Exactly like I told you months back. /shrug

Several months ago the bragging was about a much larger portion of Ukrainian territory, russia has been defeated from 2/3 of that area already.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
a reply to: JinMI


They can laugh all they want, while they leave Ukrainian territory.

Doesnt appear to be a thing.

Maybe 50B more USD will help?

Maybe.

originally posted by: pheonix358
Here is a list* of the countries bombed and/or invaded by the United States from the end of the Second World War to 2020:

Afghanistan 1998, 2001-
Bosnia 1994, 1995
Cambodia 1969-70
China 1945-46
Congo 1964
Cuba 1959-1961
El Salvador 1980s
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958 Laos 1964-73
Grenada 1983
Iraq 1991-2000s, 2015-
Iran 1987
Korea 1950-53
Kuwait 1991
Lebanon 1983, 1984
Libya 1986, 2011-
Nicaragua 1980s
Pakistan 2003, 2006-
Palestine 2010
Panama 1989
Peru 1965
Somalia 1993, 2007-08, 2010-
Sudan 1998
Syria 2014-
Vietnam 1961-73
Yemen 2002, 2009-
Yugoslavia 1999

Note that these countries represent roughly one-third of the people on earth.

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Kuwait 91. Bosnia 94. Really?

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