Looks Like The Priests Of The Temple Of Fauci Got It Wrong.

STORY AT-A-GLANCE
At a virtual meeting held the first day of the World Economic Forum’s (WEF) Davos Agenda 2022, Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel and colleagues, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, detailed their plans for “vaccine mania” to persist indefinitely
Moderna is actively working with “Fauci’s team” to create a new shot for fall 2022; Moderna is also developing an Omicron-specific jab that they hope to release as early as March 2022
Moderna is planning to combine multiple shots, such as a COVID-19 shot, a flu shot and a respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) shot, into one injection — coming in 2023 — to help avoid “compliance issues”
An agreement between Pfizer and BioNTech to develop the first mRNA shingles vaccine was reached in January 2022
Additional shots are in development to target HIV, zika virus, Nipah virus, cancer, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), cytomegalovirus (CMV), Epstein-Barr virus, influenza (mRNA) and more

Vaccinators Won't Stop Vaccinating

Fauci's what's next video

Great news now you will all get the mRNA live for every and never get sick.

Now just control what you eat and stop any other activity that might have a risk to others and world peace.

a reply to: butcherguy

They did the exact same thing here in the UK. But we're exepcted to believe that this somehow is NOT an international conspiracy...

originally posted by: Thenail

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: sarahvital

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

How do you call it a success? Every time they open people catch it.

They only way for NZ's isolation policy to work is if they cut off all ties with the rest of the world forever.

Do you call that a success?

We went for months and months without a single community case, and no need for lockdowns, while most countries never stopped the spread at all.

Compared to the US with 896,359 deaths attributed to COVID-19, that's 0.26834 % of their total population, we've only had 53 COVID-19 attributed deaths over the last two years, which is 0.00103 % of our total population.

stay locked down til you reach -1 deaths. ok?

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Don't be silly. Now the disease is becoming milder, we have reduced the requirements to lock down and other mitigations. We have even opened our borders so that travellers no longer have to automatically go into quarantine. We did what was warranted, when it was warranted, and stopped when it wasn't.

It's all about dealing with a pathogen and keeping things under control and as safe as possible, for as many as possible. It has nothing to do with stupid conspiracy theories.

And what have burkas got to do with it? Just because some politician here wore one when she was commiserating with the Muslim community doesn't mean others are forced to.

No . You are full of it . The lockdowns didn’t work . Didn’t you hear or don’t you understand? Every government overstepped their authority. Our government doesn’t have the right to lock us down at all , ever , for any reason.
If you want to be a scared little conformist who is scared to live then at least don’t push it on us . Do you truly not see that you are pushing fascism on us all ? Why , why do you think unconstitutional mandates that do nothing for us but bankrupt our country and take our freedom is good ?

You keep talking about your country as if that was the whole world. I live in another country and are not under the authority of your government.

The lockdowns worked in other countries, and spectacularly so in New Zealand, where I live. The fact that they failed in some countries may be for reasons other than the concepts or the procedure of lockdowns being ineffective.

The report in the OP also clearly cherry-picked data from countries where the lockdowns didn't work and so it's conclusion that the lockdowns didn't work in those countries is really oxymoronic, but it also cannot be concluded from that, that the lockdowns were a bad idea that failed everywhere.

America has not done well in its responses to the COVID-19 pandemic, so its citizens are probably not in a good position to lecture to someone from the country that has done very well in its response to the pandemic:

People in these countries think their government did a good job of dealing with the pandemic - World Economic Forum

Which Countries Have Responded Best to Covid-19? - WSJ

The Best Global Responses to the COVID-19 Pandemic, 1 Year Later - Time

What countries did right and wrong in responding to the pandemic - CBC

Also, since America isn't the pinnacle of freedom in the world, either, perhaps an American lecturing to someone from a country that does rate highly on freedom, about freedom, is also a bit misguided:

Freest Countries 2022 - World Population Review

The World's 10 Most Free Countries - WorldAtlas

The 27 countries in the world with the most freedom - Business Insider Australia.

And I have no need to be scared of COVID-19. I am fully vaccinated and living in a country where COVID-19 has probably the least impact upon its citizens, of any country in the world.

originally posted by: TheAiIsLying

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: TheAiIsLying

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: TheAiIsLying

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Which has nothing to do with whether or not Fauci lied, deaths were increased due to treatments lied about, and whether or not these strict lockdowns did more harm than good, which data shows they did.

The data was taken from countries where the resistance to the lockdowns was extreme, and the adherence to them was very low (for many reasons). Of course they failed in those countries.

In other countries, they worked well. As I pointed out, three times New Zealand eliminated all cases of the disease in the general populace, and when the situation was resolved, the lockdowns ended.

Lockdowns save lives. The evidence is clear around the world.

The Efficacy of Lockdown Against COVID-19: A Cross-Country Panel Analysis

Physical distancing interventions and incidence of coronavirus disease 2019: natural experiment in 149 countries

If you look only at countries where lockdowns have failed, all that you will see is that in those countries, lockdowns have failed.

What in little New Zealand?

You're kiddin'

I couldn't find an image that said Big Sister and I don't have the photo editing chops to do it without it looking like crap.

Are you missing the point I'm making that you seem to support every single draconian measure that's been foisted on us for the last two years?

Draconian. LOL.

While you guys were still locked down and the disease still raging and taking lives, we had overcome each outbreak and were walking around without needing to take those measures any more.

You still don't get it, do you? This "disease" has never been raging. There has never been excess deaths. The curve of Covid deaths can be neatly overlayed by life expectancy. You've been lied to. It's hard, I know.

The UK is back peddling. So is Ireland. So is Denmark. Many others. Hope it isn't a bluff.

If everything goes accordingly I truly hope you don't suffer a break.

Yes, every country in the world is lying, and only you know the truth.

LOL

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

SO FAR.

Your going to see how you deal with it when the borders open.

How many of your population are in the High Risk category ?
How many Care home deaths in the USA were because they infected them by returning sick into there?

How many riots and mass demonstrations have you had in the last 2 years?

Our borders are open now, so we will see how things go.

We have a good and rather smaller government. Closer connections to its people, so few riots at all.

We do have a fine tradition of demonstrations, though. New Zealanders aren't backward in making their opinions known:

List of protests in New Zealand from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We recently had a local cult leader demonstrating against COVID-19 mitigations, probably as some sport of popularity drive to accumulate the gullible to his control. Surprising the number of them that were waving "Trump" flags and pennants (here, in New Zealand where they can't vote for him because we aren't American, and where he couldn't even qualify for an NZ government position). numptys!

3000 Anti-Vaxxers Protested At New Zealand’s Parliament Today & Yes There Were Trump Flags

a reply to: chr0naut

You make assumption about people voting ability based on location or did you verify your bias? - Absentee Voting Information for U.S. Citizens Abroad

Strange message on border being open.

New Zealand border will open in stages from end of February, Jacinda Ardern announces
Fully vaccinated New Zealanders and other eligible travellers from Australia will be the first people able to enter the country.

source

edit on 4-2-2022 by puzzled2 because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

You make assumption about people voting ability based on location or did you verify your bias? - Absentee Voting Information for U.S. Citizens Abroad

How would we have numbers of US citizens likely to absentee vote if our boarders have been closed?

Strange message on border being open.

New Zealand border will open in stages from end of February, Jacinda Ardern announces
Fully vaccinated New Zealanders and other eligible travelers from Australia will be the first people able to enter the country.


source

I suppose that it depends upon what you mean by an 'open' border.

Our borders are open right now to travelers from many other countries, but there is currently a requirement that all travelers from other countries go immediately into MIQ (managed isolation and quarantine).

What will change, from 11:59 pm Sunday 27 February, is that travelers from other countries will no longer be forced into quarantine, but will be able to self-isolate at their own residence in New Zealand for the isolation period.

This will initially be for New Zealanders returning from Australia, and will be eased in stages over the next few months, culminating in October, by which time normal pre-pandemic visa processing will have fully resumed.

a reply to: chr0naut

They were there before the borders closed - DUAL CITZENSHIP.

So your borders are not open until you've had a long quarantine, might as well ban planes and go beck to sailing to the NZ.

I suppose that it depends upon what you mean by an 'open' border. - simple, Turn up and pre-2020 checks and in.
No Jail, no isolation, no tests, no inoculations for an endemic viral particle.

Notice there is no mandates or requirements to have a healthy level of essential vitamins and hormones, weight limits.
No test for TB, Worms, Ebola, Zika etc.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

I said from day one of this stupid pandemic, that the only way lockdowns would work is if everyone was locked down for three weeks ALONE with no possible contact with other people.

Short of that, it was doomed to fail.

But thankfully, we have laws that prevent that, however some governors, my own included (DeWine), decided to go rogue and try it anyway.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: jerich0
a reply to: chr0naut

Show me a honest to god pandemic, I'll show you billionaires increasing profits in months.

Stop being silly. The world is starting to open it's eyes, and loosen mandates. It is not as bad as you constantly claim it is. The sky is not falling into a plague, except as demanded by those who control the skies.

Australia is currently experiencing about 50 deaths per day from COVID-19.

More than 800,000 US citizens are dead from COVID-19. There are more than 2,000 deaths per day from COVID-19 in the USA.

5.7 million have died from COVID-19 around the world.

People on ATS have posted about having COVID-19, some with mild symptoms, some with serious symptoms, some know of close associates who have died from COVID-19.

I see where you’re getting confused, your getting your ‘from’mixed up with you ‘with’ it is and always has been “died with covid” not “from “ it.

Also the PCR tests return false positives so even “with” is dubious.

a reply to: chr0naut

Every GOVERNMENT in the world is lying, and it was planned years in advance.

There is a different between country and government sir. Mark Twain described it perfectly--patriotism means supporting your country all the time, but its government ONLY when it deserves it.

originally posted by: surfer_soul

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: jerich0
a reply to: chr0naut

Show me a honest to god pandemic, I'll show you billionaires increasing profits in months.

Stop being silly. The world is starting to open it's eyes, and loosen mandates. It is not as bad as you constantly claim it is. The sky is not falling into a plague, except as demanded by those who control the skies.

Australia is currently experiencing about 50 deaths per day from COVID-19.

More than 800,000 US citizens are dead from COVID-19. There are more than 2,000 deaths per day from COVID-19 in the USA.

5.7 million have died from COVID-19 around the world.

People on ATS have posted about having COVID-19, some with mild symptoms, some with serious symptoms, some know of close associates who have died from COVID-19.

I see where you’re getting confused, your getting your ‘from’mixed up with you ‘with’ it is and always has been “died with covid” not “from “ it.

Also the PCR tests return false positives so even “with” is dubious.

Wow. Such denial. Affecting every country around the world, with millions dead 'from' it, and you unable to see how silly and unfeasible the conspiracy theory is.

Sure, PCR tests have false positives and false negatives. But the majority of tests are accurate. That's how you know that they aren't just making things up, because all real measurements have margins of error.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: chr0naut

Every GOVERNMENT in the world is lying, and it was planned years in advance.

And how did they organize to get EVERY government, universally, to agree to lying about a pandemic that is costing nearly every government, through loss of trade, large payouts for support of the general public, excess medical, hospital and infrastructure expenses, bulk purchase of vaccines and of treatments?

How did they communicate it secretly some time in 2018 or 2019?

How come, despite such pre-planning, governments have been unable to decide how to deal with the pandemic, flip-flopping between denial, and all sorts of poorly advised, or advised against, schemes, as well as the advised ones?

There is a different between country and government sir. Mark Twain described it perfectly--patriotism means supporting your country all the time, but its government ONLY when it deserves it.

Is patriotism urging your fellow countrymen to do nothing against a spreading contagion that will definitely kill numbers of them, and of even meeting in numbers that will enhance the spread of the disease? That sounds more like bioterrorism.

a reply to: chr0naut

You are the spokesperson for anti freedom . You are the spokesperson for lockdowns . Albert bourla should really send you a big fat check . Along with the global elite and the mainstream media. They all need to send you a check for the water you’ve carried for them ..

originally posted by: Thenail
a reply to: chr0naut

You are the spokesperson for anti freedom . You are the spokesperson for lockdowns . Albert bourla should really send you a big fat check . Along with the global elite and the mainstream media. They all need to send you a check for the water you’ve carried for them ..

Really, you aren't getting it.

New Zealand isn't under lockdown.

US citizens aren't more free than others, in other countries. They probably never were.

For instance, how free are the US incarcerated populations? And since they have the highest incarcerated population, in total numbers, and per capita, of any country in the world, why is their crime rate only median in the world?

Surely if the incarcerated were legitimately so criminal, and so numerous, their crime rate would be high? But it isn't, so why?

Could it be that the US regime is the most politically oppressive system in the whole world using unjust laws, incarceration, and all-pervasive indoctrination of its citizens?

a reply to: chr0naut

Betcha can't even prove "EVERY government reporting" is accurate unfiltered unedited reporting. All rigged 🤣🤣

The theft of businesses world wide by big business and big govt. More than 400,000 small businesses in the U.S. alone were shut and probably won’t reopen. Their customer base didn’t disappear tho, it was swallowed up by the big corporations. And big corporations are the big donors for politicians. Whether or not that was the true motivation is up for debate but that is definitely the end result of their actions!

a reply to: chr0naut

Wow. Such denial. Affecting every country around the world, with millions dead 'from' it, and you unable to see how silly and unfeasible the conspiracy theory is.

Your the one in denial you have about 0.4% chance of dying with it and that’s averaging out the stats. You think that justifies totalitarian measures from the government and police? Ruining people’s livelihoods, runaway inflation and the cost to,people’s mental health?

The John Hopkins institute has said the lockdowns weren’t effective, people in this thread have said how that is. Medical experts have come out and said what’s wrong with it all, yet you, with your MSM tabloid sources and firm belief in propaganda think you know better. Here you are wasting your time repeating the same old narrative as if we are all going to suddenly sit up and take notice! Lol

Go hide behind your sofa with your mask for the rest of your life. The rest of us need to get on with ours.

originally posted by: sasquatch5100
The theft of businesses world wide by big business and big govt. More than 400,000 small businesses in the U.S. alone were shut and probably won’t reopen. Their customer base didn’t disappear tho, it was swallowed up by the big corporations. And big corporations are the big donors for politicians. Whether or not that was the true motivation is up for debate but that is definitely the end result of their actions!

Really?

Go to this page TRADING ECONOMICS - United States Bankruptcies, in the graph, click on the '10 year' view button, and tell me what you think?

Or, how about this: US corporate bankruptcies reach new low in 2021 - S&P Global

Or this: Annual Bankruptcy Filings Fall 29.7 Percent - US Courts.gov

Could it be that the pandemic driven economic crash is not actually happening, and is just propaganda proposed by conspiracy theorists?

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: chr0naut

Wow. Such denial. Affecting every country around the world, with millions dead 'from' it, and you unable to see how silly and unfeasible the conspiracy theory is.

Your the one in denial you have about 0.4% chance of dying with it

I think it is lower than that for me. I'm triple vaccinated and I live in New Zealand, where the spread of COVID-19 is very slow.

You see, in three years, only 53 people in New Zealand have died attributed to COVID-19. ( 53 / a population of about 5,126,000 = 0.001033 % of the population). In comparison, the US are probably a month away from having a million dead from it, and you are still in denial? WTF?

and that’s averaging out the stats. You think that justifies totalitarian measures from the government and police? Ruining people’s livelihoods, runaway inflation and the cost to, people’s mental health?

Inflation in 2020-22, is less than in 1931-2, 1941-2, 1946-7, 1974 and 1978-81.

Bankruptcies now are at a 10 year low, so few livelihoods seem to be actually being ruined.

And, really, they aren't totalitarian measures, they are public health and safety ones like wearing seatbelts or health warnings on cigarette packets.

Not to mention people's mental health - yes a pandemic is a stressor, but is it as much of a stressor as wars, crimewaves, and economic depressions/recessions? The public got through those all right. Economies didn't fall. People also didn't wimp out in denial.

The John Hopkins institute has said the lockdowns weren’t effective

The lockdowns in the US did almost nothing, especially compared to how well the lockdowns worked elsewhere.

That is because it is no good closing the gate after the horse has bolted - where the lockdowns didn't work, they were almost universally implemented weeks, or even months, too late. Like in the US.

The Johns Hopkins study placed barely any weight on how early a lockdown occurred, despite numerous epidemiologists and papers identifying that the earliness of the response as being the most important success factor. In fact, this is from that John's Hopkins paper: "We exclude papers which analyze the effect of early lockdowns in contrast to later lockdowns." WTF? Can you see how that might skew the report towards accepting data only from those failure lockdowns which were implemented after too much delay?

, people in this thread have said how that is. Medical experts have come out and said what’s wrong with it all, yet you, with your MSM tabloid sources and firm belief in propaganda think you know better. Here you are wasting your time repeating the same old narrative as if we are all going to suddenly sit up and take notice! Lol

No, I live in a country where three times we eliminated community outbreaks entirely, and only by lockdown and contact tracing each time. There was no vaccine, or monoclonals, or antivirals in use back then. Just the lockdowns - and they worked.

Go hide behind your sofa with your mask for the rest of your life. The rest of us need to get on with ours.

I don't have to lock down, hide behind my sofa, or anything because where I live, we have gotten this latest outbreak almost beat - again.

Also, the pandemic is just not going to go on forever and it never was. The 1918 'Spanish' flu pandemic, that killed an estimated 50 million, was over by 1920, that's three years!