Looks Like The Priests Of The Temple Of Fauci Got It Wrong.

originally posted by: jerich0
a reply to: chr0naut

Show me a honest to god pandemic, I'll show you billionaires increasing profits in months.

Stop being silly. The world is starting to open it's eyes, and loosen mandates. It is not as bad as you constantly claim it is. The sky is not falling into a plague, except as demanded by those who control the skies.

Australia is currently experiencing about 50 deaths per day from COVID-19.

More than 800,000 US citizens are dead from COVID-19. There are more than 2,000 deaths per day from COVID-19 in the USA.

5.7 million have died from COVID-19 around the world.

People on ATS have posted about having COVID-19, some with mild symptoms, some with serious symptoms, some know of close associates who have died from COVID-19.

a reply to: chr0naut

Which has nothing to do with whether or not Fauci lied, deaths were increased due to treatments lied about, and whether or not these strict lockdowns did more harm than good, which data shows they did.

originally posted by: jerich0

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: BernnieJGato

Democrat leaders in America attacked president Trump on several fronts in order to get him out of the white house. Covid-19 lockdowns were just one front in the overall war.

They will pay. Guaranteed.

It will just go away. It'll be like magic. It'll just go away.

Six months of Trump's Covid denials: ‘It'll go away … It’s fading’

Takes a democratic party to ensure that it does now. By mismanagement, by mistruth or by misleading.

a horse can find it's own water, but tell a dumb horse that the water is poison, that horse keeps being led to slaughter.

We now have vaccines against COVID-19 (about 10 billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered), and several proven treatments, such as monoclonal antibody treatments and antivirals.

At the same time, the strains of the virus are becoming less lethal, but more infectious, as was expected by epidemiologists, and there is hope that the disease will burn itself out as other pandemics have.

For instance, the 1918 'Spanish' flu that killed about 50 million people, was essentially over by 1920 (3 years), and that was without any modern medical marvels.

The issue was that people have been resisting every effort to mitigate the damages of the worst of the pandemic through this, and have denied it even happening. These people are actively spreading the disease, prolonging and worsening its effects. I hope the worst of these offenders against humanity are brought to account for what they have caused, as the world recovers and the truth and lies are made apparent.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Which has nothing to do with whether or not Fauci lied, deaths were increased due to treatments lied about, and whether or not these strict lockdowns did more harm than good, which data shows they did.

Fauci gave what he believed was the best medical advice with what was known at the time. When new information came to light, he changed his recommendations. He is a bureaucrat who took the fall for an ineffectual administration that refused to take advice and then blamed everyone else when things went horribly wrong. The current administration is not so 'blamey' and has inherited the situation left by the previous administration.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Which has nothing to do with whether or not Fauci lied, deaths were increased due to treatments lied about, and whether or not these strict lockdowns did more harm than good, which data shows they did.

The data was taken from countries where the resistance to the lockdowns was extreme, and the adherence to them was very low (for many reasons). Of course they failed in those countries.

In other countries, they worked well. As I pointed out, three times New Zealand eliminated all cases of the disease in the general populace, and when the situation was resolved, the lockdowns ended.

Lockdowns save lives. The evidence is clear around the world.

The Efficacy of Lockdown Against COVID-19: A Cross-Country Panel Analysis

Physical distancing interventions and incidence of coronavirus disease 2019: natural experiment in 149 countries

If you look only at countries where lockdowns have failed, all that you will see is that in those countries, lockdowns have failed.

a reply to: chr0naut

How do you call it a success? Every time they open people catch it.

They only way for NZ's isolation policy to work is if they cut off all ties with the rest of the world forever.

Do you call that a success?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Which has nothing to do with whether or not Fauci lied, deaths were increased due to treatments lied about, and whether or not these strict lockdowns did more harm than good, which data shows they did.

The data was taken from countries where the resistance to the lockdowns was extreme, and the adherence to them was very low (for many reasons). Of course they failed in those countries.

In other countries, they worked well. As I pointed out, three times New Zealand eliminated all cases of the disease in the general populace, and when the situation was resolved, the lockdowns ended.

Lockdowns save lives. The evidence is clear around the world.

The Efficacy of Lockdown Against COVID-19: A Cross-Country Panel Analysis

Physical distancing interventions and incidence of coronavirus disease 2019: natural experiment in 149 countries

If you look only at countries where lockdowns have failed, all that you will see is that in those countries, lockdowns have failed.

originally posted by: TheAiIsLying

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Which has nothing to do with whether or not Fauci lied, deaths were increased due to treatments lied about, and whether or not these strict lockdowns did more harm than good, which data shows they did.

The data was taken from countries where the resistance to the lockdowns was extreme, and the adherence to them was very low (for many reasons). Of course they failed in those countries.

In other countries, they worked well. As I pointed out, three times New Zealand eliminated all cases of the disease in the general populace, and when the situation was resolved, the lockdowns ended.

Lockdowns save lives. The evidence is clear around the world.

The Efficacy of Lockdown Against COVID-19: A Cross-Country Panel Analysis

Physical distancing interventions and incidence of coronavirus disease 2019: natural experiment in 149 countries

If you look only at countries where lockdowns have failed, all that you will see is that in those countries, lockdowns have failed.

What in little New Zealand?

You're kiddin'

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

How do you call it a success? Every time they open people catch it.

They only way for NZ's isolation policy to work is if they cut off all ties with the rest of the world forever.

Do you call that a success?

We went for months and months without a single community case, and no need for lockdowns, while most countries never stopped the spread at all.

Compared to the US with 896,359 deaths attributed to COVID-19, that's 0.26834 % of their total population, we've only had 53 COVID-19 attributed deaths over the last two years, which is 0.00103 % of our total population.

a reply to: chr0naut

Your first link is from May 2020, right after Covid started. I think a started almost a year later holds more credence.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: TheAiIsLying

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Which has nothing to do with whether or not Fauci lied, deaths were increased due to treatments lied about, and whether or not these strict lockdowns did more harm than good, which data shows they did.

The data was taken from countries where the resistance to the lockdowns was extreme, and the adherence to them was very low (for many reasons). Of course they failed in those countries.

In other countries, they worked well. As I pointed out, three times New Zealand eliminated all cases of the disease in the general populace, and when the situation was resolved, the lockdowns ended.

Lockdowns save lives. The evidence is clear around the world.

The Efficacy of Lockdown Against COVID-19: A Cross-Country Panel Analysis

Physical distancing interventions and incidence of coronavirus disease 2019: natural experiment in 149 countries

If you look only at countries where lockdowns have failed, all that you will see is that in those countries, lockdowns have failed.

What in little New Zealand?

You're kiddin'

I couldn't find an image that said Big Sister and I don't have the photo editing chops to do it without it looking like crap.

Are you missing the point I'm making that you seem to support every single draconian measure that's been foisted on us for the last two years?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Which has nothing to do with whether or not Fauci lied, deaths were increased due to treatments lied about, and whether or not these strict lockdowns did more harm than good, which data shows they did.

Fauci gave what he believed was the best medical advice with what was known at the time. When new information came to light, he changed his recommendations. He is a bureaucrat who took the fall for an ineffectual administration that refused to take advice and then blamed everyone else when things went horribly wrong. The current administration is not so 'blamey' and has inherited the situation left by the previous administration.

gee, god fauci has been there through 7 potus. what's his problem?

he da man to go to. so it's all his fault.

sweden just dropped all mandates. joining norway, ireland, uk,

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

How do you call it a success? Every time they open people catch it.

They only way for NZ's isolation policy to work is if they cut off all ties with the rest of the world forever.

Do you call that a success?

We went for months and months without a single community case, and no need for lockdowns, while most countries never stopped the spread at all.

Compared to the US with 896,359 deaths attributed to COVID-19, that's 0.26834 % of their total population, we've only had 53 COVID-19 attributed deaths over the last two years, which is 0.00103 % of our total population.

stay locked down til you reach -1 deaths. ok?

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originally posted by: TheAiIsLying

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: TheAiIsLying

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Which has nothing to do with whether or not Fauci lied, deaths were increased due to treatments lied about, and whether or not these strict lockdowns did more harm than good, which data shows they did.

The data was taken from countries where the resistance to the lockdowns was extreme, and the adherence to them was very low (for many reasons). Of course they failed in those countries.

In other countries, they worked well. As I pointed out, three times New Zealand eliminated all cases of the disease in the general populace, and when the situation was resolved, the lockdowns ended.

Lockdowns save lives. The evidence is clear around the world.

The Efficacy of Lockdown Against COVID-19: A Cross-Country Panel Analysis

Physical distancing interventions and incidence of coronavirus disease 2019: natural experiment in 149 countries

If you look only at countries where lockdowns have failed, all that you will see is that in those countries, lockdowns have failed.

What in little New Zealand?

You're kiddin'

I couldn't find an image that said Big Sister and I don't have the photo editing chops to do it without it looking like crap.

Are you missing the point I'm making that you seem to support every single draconian measure that's been foisted on us for the last two years?

Draconian. LOL.

While you guys were still locked down and the disease still raging and taking lives, we had overcome each outbreak and were walking around without needing to take those measures any more.

originally posted by: sarahvital

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

How do you call it a success? Every time they open people catch it.

They only way for NZ's isolation policy to work is if they cut off all ties with the rest of the world forever.

Do you call that a success?

We went for months and months without a single community case, and no need for lockdowns, while most countries never stopped the spread at all.

Compared to the US with 896,359 deaths attributed to COVID-19, that's 0.26834 % of their total population, we've only had 53 COVID-19 attributed deaths over the last two years, which is 0.00103 % of our total population.

stay locked down til you reach -1 deaths. ok?

whear full unisex burkas too.

Don't be silly. Now the disease is becoming milder, we have reduced the requirements to lock down and other mitigations. We have even opened our borders so that travellers no longer have to automatically go into quarantine. We did what was warranted, when it was warranted, and stopped when it wasn't.

It's all about dealing with a pathogen and keeping things under control and as safe as possible, for as many as possible. It has nothing to do with stupid conspiracy theories.

And what have burkas got to do with it? Just because some politician here wore one when she was commiserating with the Muslim community doesn't mean others are forced to.

a reply to: just4fun

The novel label is different in this case.

Novel for a virus means that our it is different enough from everything else that exists in the world already and infects humans that our immune systems do not know how to properly deal with it yet so when they encounter it for the first time, they go super critical in their response. The immune system is as likely to kill us trying to to save us as the disease itself is.

That's why Spanish Flu was so bad - people were killed by their immune systems as much as by the disease. If the victims were young and otherwise healthy and died from it, and large numbers of the young and healthy died, they were often killed by immune response. Otherwise, the disease was an extremely severe flu that carried off high numbers of the young elderly like any very severe flu would.

They expected our immune systems to not know how to handle COVID and to hyper-react in the bargain trying. That's why they called it novel. Even manmade, they can still call it that and maybe especially because it's manmade they can know that.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: sarahvital

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

How do you call it a success? Every time they open people catch it.

They only way for NZ's isolation policy to work is if they cut off all ties with the rest of the world forever.

Do you call that a success?

We went for months and months without a single community case, and no need for lockdowns, while most countries never stopped the spread at all.

Compared to the US with 896,359 deaths attributed to COVID-19, that's 0.26834 % of their total population, we've only had 53 COVID-19 attributed deaths over the last two years, which is 0.00103 % of our total population.

stay locked down til you reach -1 deaths. ok?

whear full unisex burkas too.

Don't be silly. Now the disease is becoming milder, we have reduced the requirements to lock down and other mitigations. We have even opened our borders so that travellers no longer have to automatically go into quarantine. We did what was warranted, when it was warranted, and stopped when it wasn't.

It's all about dealing with a pathogen and keeping things under control and as safe as possible, for as many as possible. It has nothing to do with stupid conspiracy theories.

And what have burkas got to do with it? Just because some politician here wore one when she was commiserating with the Muslim community doesn't mean others are forced to.

No . You are full of it . The lockdowns didn’t work . Didn’t you hear or don’t you understand? Every government overstepped their authority. Our government doesn’t have the right to lock us down at all , ever , for any reason.
If you want to be a scared little conformist who is scared to live then at least don’t push it on us . Do you truly not see that you are pushing fascism on us all ? Why , why do you think unconstitutional mandates that do nothing for us but bankrupt our country and take our freedom is good ?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: TheAiIsLying

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: TheAiIsLying

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Which has nothing to do with whether or not Fauci lied, deaths were increased due to treatments lied about, and whether or not these strict lockdowns did more harm than good, which data shows they did.

The data was taken from countries where the resistance to the lockdowns was extreme, and the adherence to them was very low (for many reasons). Of course they failed in those countries.

In other countries, they worked well. As I pointed out, three times New Zealand eliminated all cases of the disease in the general populace, and when the situation was resolved, the lockdowns ended.

Lockdowns save lives. The evidence is clear around the world.

The Efficacy of Lockdown Against COVID-19: A Cross-Country Panel Analysis

Physical distancing interventions and incidence of coronavirus disease 2019: natural experiment in 149 countries

If you look only at countries where lockdowns have failed, all that you will see is that in those countries, lockdowns have failed.

What in little New Zealand?

You're kiddin'

I couldn't find an image that said Big Sister and I don't have the photo editing chops to do it without it looking like crap.

Are you missing the point I'm making that you seem to support every single draconian measure that's been foisted on us for the last two years?

Draconian. LOL.

While you guys were still locked down and the disease still raging and taking lives, we had overcome each outbreak and were walking around without needing to take those measures any more.

You still don't get it, do you? This "disease" has never been raging. There has never been excess deaths. The curve of Covid deaths can be neatly overlayed by life expectancy. You've been lied to. It's hard, I know.

The UK is back peddling. So is Ireland. So is Denmark. Many others. Hope it isn't a bluff.

If everything goes accordingly I truly hope you don't suffer a break.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

You're right, heads should roll, but the rule of law no longer exists in these United States.

I'm glad you are now realizing the scam. Many of us have known this since it started.

"Running its course" doesn't really apply here because this event was planned by the World Economic Forum and others for years. Plandemic.

a reply to: chr0naut

SO FAR.

Your going to see how you deal with it when the borders open.

How many of your population are in the High Risk category ?
How many Care home deaths in the USA were because they infected them by returning sick into there?

How many riots and mass demonstrations have you had in the last 2 years?