The REAL Reason They Want to Give Covid Jabs to Kids

originally posted by: LocalGenius

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: LocalGenius
a reply to: AaarghZombies

"I'm debunking these silly conspiracies using actual data (See me signature for links)"

Problem there is your "Actual data" isn't standing up to actual reality...

And your ending proves where you're going wrong....

"If you don't want to get the vax then don't get the vax, but don't try to persuade other people not to get it, because every person who gets Covid is another reason why this pandemic isn't over already."

To say that is to deny the fact the vaccines don't stop you getting Covid

Or do you think the pandemic will be over as long as EVERYONE is vaccinated despite people still getting Covid...

The real reason we're in this "Pandemic" is because of scared little basement dwellers like you with your "Actual data"

My sources are in my signature, please explain how the don't stand up.

I don't care about your sources.
The reality of it is, it's absolutely crazy to push a "vaccine" for a disease
when said vaccine does not work on the disease
and furthermore that vaccine has zero long term data to suggest what implication it could cause 2/3/4/5 years down the line
especially when that disease has such a low mortality rate and we also have an available treatment (ivermectin)

Your argument of "Take the vaccine and everything will be ok look at my sources" has no legs to stand on

Vaccines don't work, mate.

The fact of the matter is that I am presenting clear and indisputable empirical data through the sources in my signature that demonstrate clearly and unequivocally that the vaccine has reduced the number of deaths and serous illnesses due to covid. The number of people needing critical care is down, and the number of people who are barely sick at all is up as a percentage of the total. Levels of immunity are so high now in vaxxed areas that people are virtually asymptomatic.

You're constantly moving the goalposts, infect you can't even decide where you're current ones are. What do you want, 2 years? 5 years? When will it ever be good enough for you.

I think that in 5 years time you're going to come out and say that since they've likely tweaked the vax to deal with new variants, you want another 5 years. You're just going to keep hitting that reset button every time something new comes up, you're never going to be happy.

If you don't want to get the vax then don't get the vax, but don't don't keep coming up with fake conspiracies and strawman arguments to try to dissuade other people from getting it.

We know from the existing studies that the components of the vax degrade naturally in between 2 and 4 weeks. After that time there is nothing left to effect you. Anything that it's going to do by the end of the first month it's already done. Waiting 100 years won't change that.

You're knocking Trump's vax and destroying his legacy.

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Children represent a huge share of the market , and they want access to that market .
AGREED ,EXACTLY!!!

a reply to: RIFFS

Just because something is profitable doesn't mean that it's wrong.

If anything the fact that there is a profit to be made here is what incentivizes companies to innovate.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

I couldn't give a damn about Trump and his legacy...

It's hilarious you keeping using that "you're constantly moving the goalposts"
When the reality of it is the goalposts were moved by YEARS when they decided to bring out these "vaccines" in record time

It's quite normal for studies to be done for longer than 5 years before vaccines are brought to market, you know... so we have some "actual data" to go by....

have a good day with your sources anyway mate.

a reply to: IAMTAT

It's probably part of the reasons but likely just for the liability..
When the gates foundation has anything to do with anything , it's always bad news, and always about eugenics and depopulation.
From "vaccines" to GMO chickens, to GMO mosquitoes, to nanotech drones, to planned parenthood..

They are pure evil and are pouring millions and millions into the "war on covid"..
With the results they've yielded in under developed countries with their faux vaccines and stuff, they must really be overjoyed now that they have 60% of the globe walking around with their crap in their bodies.

Go to Duckduckgo and search “dies suddenly myocarditis “ that’ll tell you the reason.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

You can give the amateur misdirection about goal posts a rest; another of your I’ll conceived metaphors that fails to make sense with your ‘by the time I get back’ rationale. With a time machine you can get back instantly.

Needing a time machine to fetch the data you lack isn’t a sign that my request is moot. It’s a sign that your insistence on the vaccines being proven safe is inaccurate. My point was indeed that you’d need a time machine to declare these vaccines safe, yet you continue to do just that. We have far less data on these vaccines than for any other vaccines distributed on a large scale. Ever.

So, choosing to take this vaccine is indeed a gamble that had these vaccines been given the time to observe given to previous vaccines for other diseases they would turn out to have no longer term nasty side effects. Some think that gamble is worth taking and that’s absolutely fine, but it is none the less a gamble which is dangerously misrepresented by you suggesting many a time that the vaccines are proven to be safe.

Personally I think those calling you a shill are flattering you.

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originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: AaarghZombies

You can give the amateur misdirection about goal posts a rest; another of your I’ll conceived metaphors that fails to make sense with your ‘by the time I get back’ rationale. With a time machine you can get back instantly.

Needing a time machine to fetch the data you lack isn’t a sign that my request is moot. It’s a sign that your insistence on the vaccines being proven safe is inaccurate. My point was indeed that you’d need a time machine to declare these vaccines safe, yet you continue to do just that. We have far less data on these vaccines than for any other vaccines distributed on a large scale. Ever.

So, choosing to take this vaccine is indeed a gamble that had these vaccines been given the time to observe given to previous vaccines for other diseases they would turn out to have no longer term nasty side effects. Some think that gamble is worth taking and that’s absolutely fine, but it is none the less a gamble which is dangerously misrepresented by you suggesting many a time that the vaccines are proven to be safe.

Personally I think those calling you a shill are flattering you.

How dare you....! Just look at the mans sources!!

originally posted by: LocalGenius
a reply to: AaarghZombies

I couldn't give a damn about Trump and his legacy...

It's hilarious you keeping using that "you're constantly moving the goalposts"
When the reality of it is the goalposts were moved by YEARS when they decided to bring out these "vaccines" in record time

It's quite normal for studies to be done for longer than 5 years before vaccines are brought to market, you know... so we have some "actual data" to go by....

have a good day with your sources anyway mate.

I see that yet again you haven't even attempted to discuss the data, let alone dispute it. I'm arguing math, and science, and logic and all you seem to have is reactionary fear.

Vaccines don't normally take years to produce. For something in the same class as Covid-19 the take maybe a year, plus lots of waiting around for more funding, and waiting around for trials to organized, plus a lot of waiting around for under staffed regulatory bodies to finally get around to looking at the data. Most of it's empty time spent waiting.

Trump was able to get this vax done in record time by making sure that they had the money and resources that they needed. Warp Speed is really a shining example of how things should be done, not some weird Frankenstein program.

At the end of the day, Covid is just another Coronavirus, we know a lot about this virus family. It's been being researched since the 1960s, but as most versions only produce mild symptoms due to widespread immunity it's not been worth creating a vax for them.

We produce up to 4 new influenza shots per year, and they don't get years worth of trials. In fact, most of the "5" years that you're quoting will be taken up by waiting, and by unique trials in different groups, not mainstream trials for average people.

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: AaarghZombies

You can give the amateur misdirection about goal posts a rest; another of your I’ll conceived metaphors that fails to make sense with your ‘by the time I get back’ rationale. With a time machine you can get back instantly.

Needing a time machine to fetch the data you lack isn’t a sign that my request is moot. It’s a sign that your insistence on the vaccines being proven safe is inaccurate. My point was indeed that you’d need a time machine to declare these vaccines safe, yet you continue to do just that. We have far less data on these vaccines than for any other vaccines distributed on a large scale. Ever.

So, choosing to take this vaccine is indeed a gamble that had these vaccines been given the time to observe given to previous vaccines for other diseases they would turn out to have no longer term nasty side effects. Some think that gamble is worth taking and that’s absolutely fine, but it is none the less a gamble which is dangerously misrepresented by you suggesting many a time that the vaccines are proven to be safe.

Personally I think those calling you a shill are flattering you.

And yet you did shift the goal posts, multiple times. Now you're asking for data that you know doesn't yet exist rather than dealing with the data that we currently have.

You're request isn't moot, it's you attempting to change the subject. I asked you what the question that I was supposedly avoiding answering, and rather than telling me what the question was you try to derail the thread. So, I ask you again, what is this question that I'm supposedly avoiding?

As I said before, I'm against vaccine mandates, and I don't have a problem with you personally not taking the vax, what I do have a problem with is you trying to make other people afraid to have it. You're not educating them or informing them because you're not providing them with any useful information, you're throwing constant "what-ifs" and doom porn at them.

The vax will make you magnetic, the vax will make you glow in the dark, there's a microchip in it, it will make you miscarry, it will make you infertile, it sheds, it keeps children in a shed, it's a depopulation weapon, it will make the virus mutate faster, in 5 years, in 10 years, it will make your grandchildren Hispanic. Give it a break.

You're not even being original, you're just taking old Anti-American tropes that have been doing the rounds in Pakistan for a decade in relation to the Polio vaccine.

Yes, you are literally recycling meme used by the Taliban against UN vaccination programs.

Think about that for a minute.

a reply to: AaarghZombies
I'm only replying, to let you know I didn't read your reply, you and your sources take care

a reply to: AaarghZombies

It’s really simple: we have no data for the effects of the vaccine 2 years+…

This is a valid part of the decision process for anyone making their mind up. Yet your sources don’t mention this and you will obviously accuse anyone of anything before admitting this is of any importance (the Taliban! That’s desperate even for you).

Calling my posts doom porn, while you compare me to the Taliban is utterly farcical. Can you not see how hilariously hypercritical that is?

You’re saying that being clear about this known unknown for the vaccines is doom porn and this known unknown should excluded from discussion of the vaccine..

Think about that for a minute.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: AaarghZombies

You can give the amateur misdirection about goal posts a rest; another of your I’ll conceived metaphors that fails to make sense with your ‘by the time I get back’ rationale. With a time machine you can get back instantly.

Needing a time machine to fetch the data you lack isn’t a sign that my request is moot. It’s a sign that your insistence on the vaccines being proven safe is inaccurate. My point was indeed that you’d need a time machine to declare these vaccines safe, yet you continue to do just that. We have far less data on these vaccines than for any other vaccines distributed on a large scale. Ever.

So, choosing to take this vaccine is indeed a gamble that had these vaccines been given the time to observe given to previous vaccines for other diseases they would turn out to have no longer term nasty side effects. Some think that gamble is worth taking and that’s absolutely fine, but it is none the less a gamble which is dangerously misrepresented by you suggesting many a time that the vaccines are proven to be safe.

Personally I think those calling you a shill are flattering you.

And yet you did shift the goal posts, multiple times. Now you're asking for data that you know doesn't yet exist rather than dealing with the data that we currently have.

You're request isn't moot, it's you attempting to change the subject. I asked you what the question that I was supposedly avoiding answering, and rather than telling me what the question was you try to derail the thread. So, I ask you again, what is this question that I'm supposedly avoiding?

As I said before, I'm against vaccine mandates, and I don't have a problem with you personally not taking the vax, what I do have a problem with is you trying to make other people afraid to have it. You're not educating them or informing them because you're not providing them with any useful information, you're throwing constant "what-ifs" and doom porn at them.

The vax will make you magnetic, the vax will make you glow in the dark, there's a microchip in it, it will make you miscarry, it will make you infertile, it sheds, it keeps children in a shed, it's a depopulation weapon, it will make the virus mutate faster, in 5 years, in 10 years, it will make your grandchildren Hispanic. Give it a break.

You're not even being original, you're just taking old Anti-American tropes that have been doing the rounds in Pakistan for a decade in relation to the Polio vaccine.

Yes, you are literally recycling meme used by the Taliban against UN vaccination programs.

Think about that for a minute.

You use the same tired arguments that get destroyed in every thread, you'd think you'd get tired of being beat down with the truth, yet you still ignore it every time.

It doesn't work. Period. It's caused a lot of deaths. Period. It causes ADE. Period. People are waking up. You're just helping people wake up with your blatant ignorance, it's not fooling anyone.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

Sigh, the worry is that children might act as a reservoir for covid and that they might either transmit it to someone who is at a greater risk or that they ight incubate a new more dangerous varient.

The aim simply to stop children from dying it's to remove potential disease vectors form the wider community.

What about animal reservoirs? A lot of different animals have tested positive for covid. Should we start vaccinating all the pets, livestock, deer, and snow leopards?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

Sigh, the worry is that children might act as a reservoir for covid and that they might either transmit it to someone who is at a greater risk or that they ight incubate a new more dangerous varient.

The aim simply to stop children from dying it's to remove potential disease vectors form the wider community.

You just cooked this up between your ears... basic virology suggests that MASS VACCINATIONS drive the natural mutation process harder. ALL VIRUSES MUTATE NATURALLY. 100% OF THEM

"...they might incubate a new more dangerous varient" is just hogwash.

Not to mention, that the data about "asymptomatic spreading" of Covid is pretty damn sketchy.

REMEMBER... the people telling you all this nonsense about Covid, are the SAME PEOPLE WHO HAVE FORBIDDEN DIALOG ABOUT NATURAL IMMUNITY FROM THE PUBLIC SQUARE. They are IGNORING THE SCIENCE, while simultaneously telling you "...we have to trust the science." It's not a mistake... it's an "on purpose".

There are people, including Fauci, who KNOW, or SHOULD KNOW, many many things they are denying and suppressing through active propaganda campaigns. This isn't ignorance or incompetence. IT IS DELIBERATE.

For the sake of the whole world, I hope they eventually somehow get their comeuppance.

Certain people on this forum seem to have 1 purpose in life only, to defend the poison fed to the populace by means of the media and needles ‘till the bitter end..
Either completely ignorant, a severe case of cognitive dissonance, or very well payed..

Zombies standing out as one that comes into unbeatable topics to regurgitate the same talking points over and over again..

Should be changing his name to TheWalkingDead, because it’s becoming quite a show already..

originally posted by: dasman888

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: IAMTAT

Sigh, the worry is that children might act as a reservoir for covid and that they might either transmit it to someone who is at a greater risk or that they ight incubate a new more dangerous varient.

The aim simply to stop children from dying it's to remove potential disease vectors form the wider community.

You just cooked this up between your ears... basic virology suggests that MASS VACCINATIONS drive the natural mutation process harder. ALL VIRUSES MUTATE NATURALLY. 100% OF THEM

"...they might incubate a new more dangerous varient" is just hogwash.

Not to mention, that the data about "asymptomatic spreading" of Covid is pretty damn sketchy.

REMEMBER... the people telling you all this nonsense about Covid, are the SAME PEOPLE WHO HAVE FORBIDDEN DIALOG ABOUT NATURAL IMMUNITY FROM THE PUBLIC SQUARE. They are IGNORING THE SCIENCE, while simultaneously telling you "...we have to trust the science." It's not a mistake... it's an "on purpose".

There are people, including Fauci, who KNOW, or SHOULD KNOW, many many things they are denying and suppressing through active propaganda campaigns. This isn't ignorance or incompetence. IT IS DELIBERATE.

For the sake of the whole world, I hope they eventually somehow get their comeuppance.

You haven't included a single source to support your argument, not even a bitchute video, because you're confusing anti-biotic resistant bacteria with virus mutations. Either that or your thinking of something that you saw on a bad made for TV science fiction movie. Virus primarily mutate when they replicate, and vaccines inhibit replication by reducing the number of available hosts and the habitability of each available host.

If what you were suggesting was remotely true then we'd have seen massive outbreaks of mutated polio or chickenpox or measles, or whooping cough. Hundreds of millions of adults get vaxxed against the flu each year but it's not turned into some super science fiction strain that's gained self awareness and is trying to take over the world.

What about Ebola, or Rabies, where are the super strains of that created by vaxxing?

And the reason that they "forbade" mention of natural immunity was because anti-vaxxers were trying to push it as an alternative to getting vaccinated using bad science.

You're pushing a bunch of baseless conspiracies and anti-vaxxer nonsense based on a poor understanding of science and a whole lot of doom porn.

a reply to: AaarghZombies



I’ll just leave this here for your viewing pleasure..

UCI = intensive care
Fallecidos = deaths

The rest speaks for itself.
Now, let’s see how you explain away these numbers in defense of the vaccine..
I won’t hold my breath, I’m still too young to die..

Source? The Spanish government.

Edit to add: the categories are mutually exclusive. People counted in one category are NOT counted in others.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

"What about Ebola, or Rabies, where are the super strains of that created by vaxxing?"
The treatments tend to work for Ebola and Rabies

"You're pushing a bunch of baseless conspiracies and anti-vaxxer nonsense based on a poor understanding of science and a whole lot of doom porn."

You're pushing vaccines based on less than a years worth of data/evidence...


"And the reason that they "forbade" mention of natural immunity was because anti-vaxxers were trying to push it as an alternative to getting vaccinated using bad science."

Whats wrong with herd immunity, why shouldn't it be an alternative to getting vaccinated...?

You say that like it's a bad thing...?