Active Shooter Oxford Michigan High School

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: generik

Sounds like best solution is to expel kids who are being bullied from the schools. It's a simple yet possibly effective solution and sends the meassage, be normal, or else!

Or each school could vote on it's worst bullies at the end of every year.

And immediately murder them.



Come on man...

You can't be serious.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: generik

Sounds like best solution is to expel kids who are being bullied from the schools. It's a simple yet possibly effective solution and sends the message, be normal, or else!

Oh yeah, that would had worked really well(sarcasm) No the best thing is to punish the bullies and seperate them into solitary classes where they cannot see or even interact with any potential victims,UNTIL they learn to keep their mouths shut,and hands to themselves.

And as a Bullied kid if it VERY INSULTING to suggest its MY or their faults for being born Differently. Normal? GTO.

originally posted by: Ghostsdogood

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: generik

Sounds like best solution is to expel kids who are being bullied from the schools. It's a simple yet possibly effective solution and sends the meassage, be normal, or else!

Or each school could vote on it's worst bullies at the end of every year.

And immediately murder them.



Come on man...

You can't be serious.

Killing bullies...naw to harsh,but killing criminals who repeat offend? thats cool.

Parents were just charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter each. The evidence that was described by the prosecutor was pretty egregious, they deserved it.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

How? They had a gun. So what. There is no law about keeping it locked up in MI so this is all for show. Does this mean the mother of the Waukesha shooter should be charged since she bailed him out?

This is a very very slippery slope and it is politicizing the deaths of those students for a Progressive Agenda. Sick.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
Wow yeah! Here's a link with more information. Awful parents! They bought him the gun and his mom laughed off him getting caught in class looking up ammo. Smdh

McDonald revealed that the day prior to the shooting, the suspect was reportedly searching for ammunition on his phone in class – when a teacher noticed. A call and email reportedly went out to Jennifer about the incident, which were unanswered, according to the prosecutor.

McDonald said Jennifer later texted her son about the incident, saying “LOL, I’m not mad at you, you have to learn not to get caught.”

WXYZ

originally posted by: matafuchs
How?

What do you mean 'how'? Go look at the prosecution's statement and the evidence. After you do that we can have a conversation.

a reply to: frogs453

Two morons with their heads in the sand. They didn't even take him out of school that day or try to figure out if he had taken the handgun purchased by the father for himself but the kid and the mom saying was for the shooter.

They dug themselves a nice hole. Idiots like this make it harder for responsible gun owners like me. I have no sympathy for them. Zero.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Exactly. I have no issue with gun ownership or kids learning to hunt, etc, but this irresponsible behavior is ridiculous.

The charges against the parents are bullsh*t. If he had used a rifle or shotgun we wouldn't even be having this discussion. If the shooter was 10 or 11 years old I could possibly see it. The shooter is 15. If you want to push charges against the parents for the reasons that the Prosecutor is claiming then try the shooter as a Juvenile.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
Wow yeah! Here's a link with more information. Awful parents! They bought him the gun and his mom laughed off him getting caught in class looking up ammo. Smdh

McDonald revealed that the day prior to the shooting, the suspect was reportedly searching for ammunition on his phone in class – when a teacher noticed. A call and email reportedly went out to Jennifer about the incident, which were unanswered, according to the prosecutor.

McDonald said Jennifer later texted her son about the incident, saying “LOL, I’m not mad at you, you have to learn not to get caught.”

WXYZ

I see a major glaring flaw in the responsibility logic that is probably going to get them very light sentences, if anything. They weren't the only ones who dropped the ball point blank (no pun intended):

It was then the prosecutor said the suspect was called into a meeting with his parents at the school. At that time, McDonald said the suspect had already altered parts of the drawing. The parents were reportedly advised to get counseling for their son within 48 hours.

It was after that meeting that the suspect returned to class. The prosecutor said the parents failed to ask the suspect if he had the gun with him and failed to check his backpack.

Let that bolded part sink way, way in -- the SCHOOL is chastising the parents for not making sure he wasn't armed before going back to class.

The school did not check him themselves.

BZZZZZZZZZZ, wrong move.

If the school thought he was an imminent threat to others, they'd have either sent his ass out the door with mommy, or they've have TSA'd his ass before letting him back into the halls.

I'm placing my bets: someone's getting sued into oblivion for gross negligence, and it's not going to be the shooter's parents...

originally posted by: JIMC5499
If he had used a rifle or shotgun we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

You're correct, because the idiot parents would have seen either one of those in his backpack while sitting at the school unlike the current situation where the handgun was present while discussing his violent ideations and drawings.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JIMC5499
If he had used a rifle or shotgun we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

You're correct, because the idiot parents would have seen either one of those in his backpack while sitting at the school unlike the current situation where the handgun was present while discussing his violent ideations and drawings.

Idiot parents aside, why didn't the mentally retarded school staff have him searched first?

Two sets of dumb #s does not automatically cancel out one or the other, both #ed up big-time.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Then charge the teachers they knew it.
Then charge his friends who knew he was going to do it.
Do we charge Sig Sauer next for selling handguns?

There is no charge that can be brought against the parent. They will be dropped and it is all for show. The gun was bought for the child by a parent. So, if a parent buys a car for a child and he hits someone and kills then they are held liable. follow the logic and it makes no sense.

Again. Politicizing the deaths of 4 kids to push an agenda is sick.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You have a point to a point. That wasn't what I was referring to. The Prosecutor is claiming, by charging the parents, that they had a duty to keep a pistol away from a "child" who could have a gun cabinet in his room with rifles and shotguns in it. As I said, bullsh*t.

a reply to: Nyiah

I seriously cannot believe no one at the school would have checked his backpack or him during the meeting. Why was he also not escorted off property by authorities after the meeting with the parents. So in this case the school listens to parents who did not want to bring him home.

Something is not right here....

originally posted by: Nyiah
Idiot parents aside, why didn't the mentally retarded school staff have him searched first?

It may be a privacy thing, I don't know the Michigan laws regarding searching minors whether on school grounds or not.

Imagine the uproar if schools unilaterally started feeling up people's kids every time they thought there might be an issue?

I'm not releasing the school from culpability though, they should have tossed that POS that day and not given Mr. and Mrs. Oblivious an option to leave Junior the Soon-To-Be Homicidal Maniac in class.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Uproar? For the last year and a half schools have made kids wear mask for no reason to protect them from a virus they have a 99.99% survivlal rate from but searching for guns in wrong?

originally posted by: JIMC5499
The Prosecutor is claiming, by charging the parents, that they had a duty to keep a pistol away from a "child" who could have a gun cabinet in his room with rifles and shotguns in it. As I said, bullsh*t.

They are saying they had a duty to keep the gun away from someone they knew was an obvious mental case who just the moment before he shot up his school was demonstrated to have indicated homicidal ideation.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Parents were just charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter each. The evidence that was described by the prosecutor was pretty egregious, they deserved it.

Another over charge that will result in protest when they are not found guilty of anything but negligence.The parents are pro 2nd and this will become poltical just like kyle was.

They did not know their son was going to murder people.foreknowledge is needed to prove intent.