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Oklahoma National Guard Commander Rejects Vaccine Mandate; Pentagon To Respond 'Appropriately'

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posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 03:04 AM
a reply to: Asktheanimals


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posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 03:11 AM
a reply to: rnaa

Those troops must be operationally ready to move out NOW

No. The National Guard never moves that quickly in the case of the situation you're suggesting -- war. They can roll out somewhat rapidly in the event of a natural disaster and such.

The USA has other forces that go "NOW". Not every organization is the XVIII Airborne Corps.

There may well be some kind of disciplinary action or attempt at such. Such an outcome may be desired by the governor and the adjutant general -- force the issue to be considered legally.

As to the oath sworn -- anyone who swears that oath is not obligated to follow what they believe to be illegal orders. Of course, refusal to follow orders is a serious act and there will be investigations as to what took place and why.


posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 08:04 PM
Actually naw not going to waste the time.

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posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 08:12 PM
a reply to: rnaa

That might require a SCOTUS hearing to determine whether we are in a new precedent. POTUS is only commander in chief over the National Guard when/if the Guard is called into federal service, which requires at a bare minimum authorization of Congress. The Congressional authorization for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars is no longer in effect, meaning Joe Biden isn't jack # to the National Guard unless and until Congress issues another authorization. If the Pentagon presently wishes to argue otherwise, then the courts will need to decide if something has changed... and considering Congress has had zero involvement with authorizing any extraordinary powers to the Biden Admin, nor did that admin inherit any active authorization from his predecessors aside from the one in Afghanistan which he made clear is now finished, that argument might be a tough sell in from of the SCOTUS.

posted on Nov, 16 2021 @ 08:16 PM
I worry about the states of mind of all these LEOs and career military people when it comes to this subject.

Lol, the enemy should develop vaccine weapon technology, our whole military would resign.

posted on Nov, 18 2021 @ 02:52 AM
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Scotus has nothing to do with it. Please read the Constitution of the United States.

Congress sets standards for the training and discipline of the National Guard. That training and discipline INCLUDES ensuring their readiness for duty "when called into the actual service of the United States". The President, as Commander in Chief, is responsible for ensuring that those training and discipline standards are maintained.

The Militia Act of 1903 formalized the relationship between the States and the Feds with respect to the militia and renamed it "National Guard".

The Militia Act of 1908 formalized overseas deployment conditions and the 1908 law also included the creation of the "Division of Militia Affairs" as the Army agency responsible for overseeing federal training and administrative requirements for the National Guard.

The National Defense Act of 1916, increased training requirements, authorised the War Department to centrally plan for the National Guard's authorized strength, and the number and types of National Guard units in each state, required Guardsmen to take both State and Federal oaths of office (among other things, of course).

The National Defense Act of 1920 strengthened the coordination between the National Guard and the Federal Army.

The National Defense Act Amendments of 1933 established a "National Guard of the United States" (essentially the Army Reserve). Since then, all National Guardsmen have been members of both their State National Guard and the National Guard of the United States.

War is NOT the only situation when the National Guard can be called up for service by the President.

12 times the president called in the military domestically

  • 1957, President Dwight Eisenhower - desegregation of Little Rock Arkansas schools
  • 1962 President John F Kennedy: Integration of University of Mississippi
  • 1963 President John F. Kennedy: Integration of University of Alabama
  • 1963 President John F. Kennedy: Integration of Alabama schools
  • 1965 President Lyndon B. Johnson: Selma, Montgomery civil rights march
  • 1967 President Lyndon B. Johnson: Detroit riots
  • 1968 President Lyndon B. Johnson: Chicago riots following assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.
  • 1968 President Lyndon B. Johnson: Washington riots following King's murder
  • 1968 President Lyndon B. Johnson: Baltimore riots following King's murder
  • 1970 President Richard M. Nixon: New York City postal strike
  • 1989 President Ronald Reagan: Looting after Hurricane Hugo
  • 1992 President George H. W. Bush: Riots after Rodney King verdict

Clearly, deployments to deal with riots or hurricanes cannot wait for some refusenik to get jabbed, sit on his ass for 4 weeks or more, get another jab and sit for another 2 weeks. Riots or hurricanes will be passed by then.

This issue goes straight to the heart of military preparedness and attempting to dismiss the authority of the Commander in Chief to enforce the preparedness requirements of the military, whether Federal or National Guard is actually a transparent attempt at gaslighting.

posted on Nov, 30 2021 @ 12:31 PM

originally posted by: machineintelligence
Oklahoma National Guard 'Goes Rogue' After New Commander Rejects Vaccine Mandate; Pentagon To Respond 'Appropriately'

I loved the article but did not like the title much. For one, no one went Rouge here that is some clickbait drivel in the title in my opinion. I did like the content here even though Zerohedge as the source, not the greatest but in this case well researched documented, and resourced. It made me proud to be a resident of OK land to read this news bit.


The Pentagon says ALL NATIONAL GUARD units must comply with Joe Biden's vaccine mandate.


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