Covid: first inactivated virus in Europe

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I formally apologize for wrongfully assuming you think there should be jabs for all sir.
What about the other two?

Thanks. As for "safe" I have consistently stated that it is relatively safe, not 100% safe, but have pointed out that out of the millions jabbed here in the UK problems are statistically very low. Generally in response to those on here that call them "kill shots" and billions will die, etc.

Effective, yes. It seems to be working on the whole.

You see, it's all about context rather than just summing up my supposed views in a few out of context words.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You don't think the jury is still out on the safety? It's barely a year into this experiment how can anyone know if it's safe? If you read any of the papers from Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, AZ and they will tell you there is no long-term data on human subjects.
"Effective" is another word that has turned into something subjective. Effective used to mean yes, not "seems to". They've diluted the meaning to the point I could say a burlap sack is an "effective" water carrying device.

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

You don't think the jury is still out on the safety? It's barely a year into this experiment how can anyone know if it's safe? If you read any of the papers from Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, AZ and they will tell you there is no long-term data on human subjects.
"Effective" is another word that has turned into something subjective. Effective used to mean yes, not "seems to". They've diluted the meaning to the point I could say a burlap sack is an "effective" water carrying device.

Well, of course there is no long term data as we are not in the long term yet.

Let's just say I don't subscribe to all the doom porn kill shot stuff.

I have never told anyone to take a shot, it's their choice.

Contrast that to the rabid anti vaxxers on here that are spewing Disinfo and downright lies and telling people not to get jabbed, those that are are fools and are gonna die, etc.

Context is all.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

The only difference being that those "rabid anti vaxxer" types are all talk while at the opposite end are vaccine mandates, "health" passes, and ever more restrictions being implemented by the government to create hardship for people who have made "their choice" to opt out of the trials. Freedom is fading fast, and many are cheering it on.

a reply to: underpass61

Not me, though, matey.