Town with 99.7% fully vaccinated adults has highest COVID-19 rate in Ireland

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: AaarghZombies

so the 99.7 percent of population being vaxxed is a hoax? go figure

Well, yes. Or to be more exact it's a mistake on the part of the poster. Possibly a deliberate one at that.

In Ireland the vax is only available to certain age groups so it's actually impossible for 99.7 percent of people to be fully vaxxed because the vax isn't available to them.

Ireland also doesn't have a 99.7% take up even among eligible groups, and even for a single shot. They're about 85% with at least one shot for adults.

it seems that was the number for all the adults who could get the shot. Kids should not get the shot, they have almost no risk from Covid, and some risk from heart issues due to the shot. So this is starting to make more sense. It's a shame so many people feel the need to obfuscate the facts.

The link in your article says that 99.7 percent of the people are vaccinated and 60 percent of those in ICU are unvaccinated.

Maths.




a reply to: Jaellma

originally posted by: Jaellma

originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: Jaellma

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Jaellma

How many of them required hospitalisation or died?

In the last 6 months there were fewer than 400 covid deaths in the country.

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The unvaccinated were disproportionatly infected and disproportionatly died. source

The OPs source is a hoax. There weren't that many infections in the entire country, let one that one town.

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The average age for a covid death in Ireland is about 80.

The vax has killed maybe 0.00 percent of people as well.

Where are you pulling your stats from, sir?

If you look at the last 6 months, starting with April, you will clearly see there were over 400 deaths already for a period from April 1-16. Actually a total of 415 deaths in 16 days starting April 1st. This blows your theory that there were less than 400 deaths in Ireland in the past 6 months.

Just look at each new day and start counting and adding deaths.

If you are gonna quote stats, please get them from reputable sources.

Daily New Deaths in Ireland

No there weren't - worldometers isn't credible and even so worldometers doesn't show over 400 in April 1st to 17th - it shows less than 100 even with their double counting method of daily and weekly totals with actual figures as 21 for that period with 63 for the total month of April of all possible Coronavirus deaths, with probable being far lower.

HSPC figures

400 since April seems about right as there were around 1 - 2 deaths per day from May - Sept.

Daily deaths and cases report

WRONG again. I physically counted the numbers day by day from April 1 to April 16. Maybe you need to do the same instead of criticizing. Regardless if Worldometers is double or triple counting, their stats show what I pointed out.

That's the first thing I did when I saw your original claim - comes to under 150 including their double counting of daily and weekly totals used by worldometers (see regular spike every week). The correct figure of possible deaths for Apr'21 is 63 for the entire month as stated.

Fairly sure you were looking at April 2020 instead of this year which does come in just over 400. April 2021 isn't anywhere close.

originally posted by: nonspecific
The link in your article says that 99.7 percent of the people are vaccinated and 60 percent of those in ICU are unvaccinated.

Maths.

a reply to: Jaellma

That was the total between April 1 and October 2...the question is whether they are seeing rising rates of hospitalized/critical vaxxed patients during that time period. If so, then it may be a safety signal that the vaxxed are developing immune enhanced illness...particularly with Delta.

Case in point, the latest report from the FDA shows the J&J is -6% effective against the Delta variant. NEGATIVE SIX PERCENT.




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originally posted by: all2human
Project Covid is slowly but assuredly crumbling

Or slowly but steadily succeeding. Still people are getting the shots, still people are taking the stupid PCR tests.

Many have figured out the scam, but they are likely in the minority. A sad situation, as none of the perpetrators are being prosecuted for their crimes.

a reply to: Jaellma

It comes as the numbers of Covid-19 patients in hospital rose to 402 yesterday, although of these the number in intensive care dropped slightly to 73.

Another 1,466 new cases of the virus were reported yesterday.

Deputy chief medical officer Dr Ronan Glynn said that “over recent days we have seen an increasing number of people with Covid-19 admitted to hospital and to intensive care”.

“Recently, approximately 70pc of people being treated in intensive care for Covid-19 have not been fully vaccinated. This is a significant cause for concern,” he added.
[url]https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/kerry-and-waterford-have-the-highest-rates-of-people-testing-positive-for-covid-40943330.html[/ url]

You can still catch Covid if you are vaccinated , the vacine is aimed at stopping people being hospitalised and dying.

a reply to: gortex

I think that it's important to note here that what they are recording isn't the number of people who have gotten sick from Covid, it's the number of people who have been contaminated by Covid.

Some of these people will be infected and sick. Some will be infected and asymptomatic or only by a little sick, but others will simply have trace amounts of the virus in their nasal passages or throat.

It's like ... you're standing on a street corner when there is a drive by, and you get splattered with some of the powder from the shooter, and some of the blood from the victim.

Yes, you've got gun shot reseduce and blood on you, but you're not the killer or the victim, you're simply contaminated. That's what a lot of people being picked up as having covid are. They simply breathed in some covid form somebody else's sneeze, which is what is being picked up.

It might sound like arguing semantics, but it's a big difference because you're not sick yourself and because the virus isn't replicating you would practically need to french kiss somebody for 5 minutes to infect them.

Statistically, the vaccine is doing extremely well in protecting people from getting sick or dying.

For example, in the UK for the first 6 month of 2021 only 640 double vaxxed people died from Covid.

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Another ludicrous online lie.

originally posted by: nonspecific
The link in your article says that 99.7 percent of the people are vaccinated and 60 percent of those in ICU are unvaccinated.

Maths.




a reply to: Jaellma

ATS doesn't do maths!

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: nonspecific
The link in your article says that 99.7 percent of the people are vaccinated and 60 percent of those in ICU are unvaccinated.

Maths.




a reply to: Jaellma

ATS doesn't do maths!

You want to know who does math?

The ONS does Math.

Check out the covid statistics here and see exactly how effective the vax actually is.

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originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: nonspecific
The link in your article says that 99.7 percent of the people are vaccinated and 60 percent of those in ICU are unvaccinated.

Maths.




a reply to: Jaellma

ATS doesn't do maths!

You want to know who does math?

The ONS does Math.

Check out the covid statistics here and see exactly how effective the vax actually is.

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I have posted our stats on other threads, which show it does slow it down, far more unvaxxed in the hospital than vaxxed, and that is with 82% with both shots. People here just don't understand percentages, ratio, per capita..etc.

I'm not cheerleading for it, but I don't believe the doom porn. I don't like mandates, and despite that I think it works to a degree..people should be free to choose, without losing jobs..etc.

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: nonspecific
The link in your article says that 99.7 percent of the people are vaccinated and 60 percent of those in ICU are unvaccinated.

Maths.




a reply to: Jaellma

ATS doesn't do maths!

You want to know who does math?

The ONS does Math.

Check out the covid statistics here and see exactly how effective the vax actually is.

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I have posted our stats on other threads, which show it does slow it down, far more unvaxxed in the hospital than vaxxed, and that is with 82% with both shots. People here just don't understand percentages, ratio, per capita..etc.

I'm not cheerleading for it, but I don't believe the doom porn. I don't like mandates, and despite that I think it works to a degree..people should be free to choose, without losing jobs..etc.

I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of vax mandates, and this is coming from somebody who has had all of their shots, including the winter flu shot, so mandates don't really effect me either way in that regards ... but ... I come form a country with a single tier system and really strong human rights regulations that prevent almost every kind of discrimination against people on regards of vaccine status that you could imagine, so as long as there are unvaxxed people out there getting sick then the vaxxed get locked down along side them.

People try to be responsible and try to do what they believe is the right thing, and they find themselves still at a disadvantage because of the people who don't get their shots.

I firmly believe that the vax is safe, and that it is effective, and that the majority of people would choose to have it of their own free will if they had all of the information available to them to show that it is safe and effective.

People say that they want to do their own research, so I'm going to make sure that the links to reputable sources of accurate information are put in places where they can find them.

a reply to: Lumenari

Why so many took the vax that high? did they thought things would return to normal if they did?

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: Lumenari

Why so many took the vax that high? did they thought things would return to normal if they did?

It's not actually that high, that number is for both double and single vaxxed people, it also only covers adult in a region with an extremely high proportion of young people. So, we're not talking about that far beyond the national average.

High vax levels are normal there.

It is not a miracle potion, it just helps your immune system to fight the virus when you get it. If you already had it, your immune system already knows what to do. If you didn't, it will learn by itself or with a vaccine. But let's say your immune system is BS, you are overweight, you drink too much, don't exercise and over 50 ... if you get the virus in that state and you are not vaccinated you probably have 20% chance of developing heavy symptoms .. If the vaccine is 70% efficient, you still have 6% chance of being screwed

It's not really exactly like I wrote but it can give you an insight of what vaccine does. It's not a potion from a fairytale, it just helps your immune system.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
Obvious hoax. This is a small town with only about 50,000 people. To have 11k people infected at any one time this would be the world's worst disease outbreak period.

My God, man ! We're talking about Corona, this is it !

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Jaellma

It comes as the numbers of Covid-19 patients in hospital rose to 402 yesterday, although of these the number in intensive care dropped slightly to 73.

Another 1,466 new cases of the virus were reported yesterday.

Deputy chief medical officer Dr Ronan Glynn said that “over recent days we have seen an increasing number of people with Covid-19 admitted to hospital and to intensive care”.

“Recently, approximately 70pc of people being treated in intensive care for Covid-19 have not been fully vaccinated. This is a significant cause for concern,” he added.
[url]https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/kerry-and-waterford-have-the-highest-rates-of-people-testing-positive-for-covid-40943330.html[/ url]

You can still catch Covid if you are vaccinated , the vacine is aimed at stopping people being hospitalised and dying.

We have been told that the MNRA injections immunize us.

Being immunized is supposed to give you immunity.

So the injection immunizes us from getting very ill or dying but not from the Covid.

That’s false advertising as it is called the Covid 19 vaccine.

If it immunizes us from dying though that’s awesome!

Being immune to death sounds cool but it won’t help Billy Gates save the world from his over population concerns.

All this is so confusing, I’m off to find an expert!

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Jaellma

It comes as the numbers of Covid-19 patients in hospital rose to 402 yesterday, although of these the number in intensive care dropped slightly to 73.

Another 1,466 new cases of the virus were reported yesterday.

Deputy chief medical officer Dr Ronan Glynn said that “over recent days we have seen an increasing number of people with Covid-19 admitted to hospital and to intensive care”.

“Recently, approximately 70pc of people being treated in intensive care for Covid-19 have not been fully vaccinated. This is a significant cause for concern,” he added.
[url]https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/kerry-and-waterford-have-the-highest-rates-of-people-testing-positive-for-covid-40943330.html[/ url]

You can still catch Covid if you are vaccinated , the vacine is aimed at stopping people being hospitalised and dying.

We have been told that the MNRA injections immunize us.

Being immunized is supposed to give you immunity.

So the injection immunizes us from getting very ill or dying but not from the Covid.

That’s false advertising as it is called the Covid 19 vaccine.

If it immunizes us from dying though that’s awesome!

Being immune to death sounds cool but it won’t help Billy Gates save the world from his over population concerns.

All this is so confusing, I’m off to find an expert!

I'm not sure any vaccine assures 100% immunity, but they work, because with a disease virtually wiped out, there is little to catch. I would not argue that it might not be as effective as they hoped though.

originally posted by: Jaellma
As of September 23rd, 99.7% of Waterford adults were fully vaccinated. Almost three weeks later, they had 11,000+ cases just in the last week. I think what's even more damning than waning vaccine efficacy is mounting bs statements and obfuscation from all these officials. All of a sudden, they don't know what's happening and they can't blame the vaccine for what's happening. You just can't make this stuff up, folks.

Town with 99.7 fully vaccinated adults now has highest C-19 rate in Ireland

Waterford now has highest rate of COVID

Mass vaccinations cause the expedited and increased spread of covid.

Full stop.

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Jaellma

It comes as the numbers of Covid-19 patients in hospital rose to 402 yesterday, although of these the number in intensive care dropped slightly to 73.

Another 1,466 new cases of the virus were reported yesterday.

Deputy chief medical officer Dr Ronan Glynn said that “over recent days we have seen an increasing number of people with Covid-19 admitted to hospital and to intensive care”.

“Recently, approximately 70pc of people being treated in intensive care for Covid-19 have not been fully vaccinated. This is a significant cause for concern,” he added.
[url]https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/kerry-and-waterford-have-the-highest-rates-of-people-testing-positive-for-covid-40943330.html[/ url]

You can still catch Covid if you are vaccinated , the vacine is aimed at stopping people being hospitalised and dying.

We have been told that the MNRA injections immunize us.

Being immunized is supposed to give you immunity.

So the injection immunizes us from getting very ill or dying but not from the Covid.

That’s false advertising as it is called the Covid 19 vaccine.

If it immunizes us from dying though that’s awesome!

Being immune to death sounds cool but it won’t help Billy Gates save the world from his over population concerns.

All this is so confusing, I’m off to find an expert!

I'm not sure any vaccine assures 100% immunity, but they work, because with a disease virtually wiped out, there is little to catch. I would not argue that it might not be as effective as they hoped though.

No vaccine assures immunity. That's not how they work, and, no, they don't work. Man has never wiped out a disease. There are still cases of polio, rubella, small pox, chicken pox, and even the odd plague from time to time.

Did you not read the article? It literally proves the vaccines are spreading covid and NOT PREVENTING the spread of covid.

You do realize whenever someone makes the statement "the covid vaccines work" they are making a complete assumption on multiple variables of a given population they could absolutely have no data on to support that ridiculous statement.

The covid vaccines are spreading the god damn virus, man. Jesus you people are dense.