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I have no issue with spirituality.
I DO have an issue with religious nonsense that targets gullible people in order to take their money, preying on specific human situations and circumstances, in the name of christ. A fictional character who never existed.
God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses (Joshua 6). In Judges 21 He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!
Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 & Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person.
Are you seriously ande honestly subscribing to a deity who does the below? The rape, murder and destruction of humankind, which your god created in the first place?
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate
Are you seriously ande honestly subscribing to a deity who does the below? The rape, murder and destruction of humankind, which your god created in the first place?
The delusion is yours when you think billions of other people are delusional
and you're the only sane one.
Richard Dawkins is nothing more skeptic who saw an opportunity to
make money telling the atheist community what the wanted to
hear in the first place.
He claims belief in deity to be absurd and in the end offers no better
explanation for existence the something even more unbelievable.
Hence the magic show just happened. Even with out the magician ever even existing.
If you don't believe intelligent design that's basically what you believe.
originally posted by: Randyvine2
The way you come on like you have been taught some great truth
and knowledge. That in the end adds up to a bigger pile a crap then
where you began. And it makes even less sense.
It being a "mind virus" I'll excuse you this time for not applying logic 101
So... no explanation or refutation regarding the atrocities then?
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate
It being a "mind virus" I'll excuse you this time for not applying logic 101
So... no explanation or refutation regarding the atrocities then?
I been thru this thousands of times with you people who don't understand
where the real bullsh1t is in the field. All just a bunch of crap taken out
of context. At best it becomes arguable based on morality diverse for
deity. In other words that argument sucks completely for you in the end.
And you should be glad he isn't what you say or we wouldn't be having this
conversation.
I'm sorry but your god condoning the rape and murder of innocent people is simply NOT taking things out of context mate.
It's right there... In your "holy" book [Joshua 6]
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate
I'm sorry but your god condoning the rape and murder of innocent people is simply NOT taking things out of context mate.
It's right there... In your "holy" book [Joshua 6]
What am I supposed to have an issue with? I mean the story is what it is.
You do realize what the definition of God is right? The Creation in moral
order is to please the Creator. You do have that much on your moral
compass i hope?
originally posted by: Kreeate
(Joshua 6)
So you accept that rape and murder of innocent people is okay? As long as it's in the name of your god?
originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: Kreeate
(Joshua 6)
So you accept that rape and murder of innocent people is okay? As long as it's in the name of your god?
Lol "innocent people". It's like you only read the part of the story that fits your narrative. You gotta do the actual due diligence to discern why God wanted these people eradicated from earth. People of such might (Gibborim - same word used for Nimrod's totalitarian reign over the earth) that the whole world was falling to their power. Even more gruesome, they were giants, and the spies said "they felt like grasshoppers in their site". The Canaanites were sadistic, and sacrificed their children to gods. The holocaust of their day I would imagine.
So yeah this is equivalent to the Allied forces "utterly destroying" any trace of the Nazi empire. But I guess you would want us to have just knelt to the axis power so no one got hurt.
So you accept that rape and murder of innocent people is okay? As long as it's in the name of your god?
originally posted by: Kreeate
"God" "created" those people. So then.. a benevolent entity creating beings who are not just bound to sin, but absolutely CREATED to sin, who then actually sin, and are then punished for their sins because their idiot maker made them sinners... lmfao. Your logic must be spectacular in your mind.
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate
So you accept that rape and murder of innocent people is okay? As long as it's in the name of your god?
See this is just another very stupid Atheist game you're playing.
Your words not mine. Like some little kid trying to get their way.
i laugh at you.
originally posted by: cooperton
originally posted by: Kreeate
"God" "created" those people. So then.. a benevolent entity creating beings who are not just bound to sin, but absolutely CREATED to sin, who then actually sin, and are then punished for their sins because their idiot maker made them sinners... lmfao. Your logic must be spectacular in your mind.
You're so myopic. It's called free will. I don't want to be an automaton, and I'm sure you don't either.
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate
Could you rephrase the question please?
originally posted by: Kreeate
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate
Could you rephrase the question please?
Thick or purposely obtuse? That is the question...
So you accept that rape and murder of innocent people is okay? As long as it's in the name of your god?
originally posted by: Randyvine2
originally posted by: Kreeate
originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kreeate
Could you rephrase the question please?
Thick or purposely obtuse? That is the question...
So you accept that rape and murder of innocent people is okay? As long as it's in the name of your god?
"Man does not live by bread alone
But by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God"
Not our place to judge him. The Creator judges the creation always in everything.
So you see I already answered your adolescent question.