My Jaw DROPPED when I Tested Someone's Immune System After the 2nd Jab

Here's an interesting video showing lab antibody tests after the first and second jabs. This was just a single patient though, so it would be nice if doctors were routinely doing these lab tests. If similar effects are happening to many vaxxed people, then this is a nightmare scenario.

To summarize, he began by showing the patient's pre-jab labs which were normal:

- After the first jab, CD8 cells came back high (lymphocytes). These are the killer T cells.

- After the second jab...
• Granulocytes were high meaning the patient's immune system was responding to tissue damage.
• Lymphocytes (including CD8 and Natural Killer) cells were low -- leaving the patient vulnerable to 'breakthrough' infections.
• CD3-/CD56+CD16+(Natural Killer) cells were low -- they are first responders to viral infections and cancer cells.

All other immune lab scores came back on the lower end of normal, too, after the second jab.

IOW, the patient's adaptive immune system "tanked." This doctor said the patient's lab results point to an auto-immune disorder they did not have prior to the jabs.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I saw this. What remains to be seen is if those numbers stay low over time, say in a few weeks or months. Then I'll be worried.

If it pans out that way, what that means is people will start dying from all kinds of illnesses because they have no defenses left.

Hope none of this is true.

a reply to: loam

Me, too. There should be widespread testing going on. It's like they don't even want to know though.

It is not like they were not warned by some professional immunologists that something like this would happen. Of course, they actively discredited the reputation of the professionals who had mentioned possible side effects like this.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

It's like going outside naked for 2 hours when the temperature is below freezing.

Why do that to yourself?

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: loam

Me, too. There should be widespread testing going on. It's like they don't even want to know though.

No, it's not "like they don't even want to know." They know damn well. They just don't want you and me to know.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the CDC suggest that you do not take the anti-body test after getting the jabs? They said it was a waste of time and valuable resources. I wonder if they were trying to hide this?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

It's like they don't even want to know though.

Maybe they designed it to do what it is doing and they already know... so no need to test. The tests were probably done long ago.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I saw this. What remains to be seen is if those numbers stay low over time, say in a few weeks or months. Then I'll be worried.

Even if it is not long term, people should be warned they are more vulnerable to viral infections and cancer for that temporary period of time -- especially if they've had cancer in the past.

If they are more vulnerable to breakthrough infections for a period of time, that endangers everyone else, too.

a reply to: loam

From day one the entire push for having this vaccine in peoples system does not feel good...something is up. They...the government, my dutch government... and all other "connected" governments ..are putting the citizens between a rock and a hard place when it comes to the vaccination. Its played in such a way that in no matter what argument its best to take the vaccination. That has a faul odor ...

Because the vaccination of one manufacturer isnt like the other says to me that they do not really understand what they are doing. Or maybe this is because they are forced to tinker with a insignificant molecule because of legal patent reasons. From how I understand it is the making of a specific vaccine is an exact science..all manifacturers should end with the same outcome when using the same technology...but they dont.

What will happen if after some three years people will start to die left and right because of all kind of causes...except covid? What will this do to people.. What will our governments tell us...will they try to convince us it is not covid vaccine related? Will the people buy it..

a reply to: MotherMayEye
Very interesting. Definitely more validation for what most of us suspect. I fear the massive jab campaigns, of one, two, three doses this summer and fall will be the catalyst for the lockdown of winter /spring. And those of us on the fringe will be blamed.
It's going to be a very difficult, dark season ahead.

I dunno it's all becoming to much to quantify really.

Perhaps the entire point of the Vaccine is to destroy our natural immune system , Then We are completely reliant on the Pharmaceutical companies and Government to keep us alive with these boosters .

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I saw this. What remains to be seen is if those numbers stay low over time, say in a few weeks or months. Then I'll be worried.

If it pans out that way, what that means is people will start dying from all kinds of illnesses because they have no defenses left.

Hope none of this is true.

It's like the situation with testing for covid antibodies after the jab. The FDA or CDC suggested that you don't get the test. Like WTF, why not? Wouldn't you want to know you had protection, especially if you have been conned into taking the jab?

Personally, I think you'll see no covid antibodies. Getting the jab 'after covid' is so you get rid of your natural covid antibodies/immunity. These @ssclowns are playing the long game.... whoever doesn't die after 3 jabs are customers for life that they can control by extorting them with a new toxic mix every few months.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: MotherMayEye

The conclusion of why they are ripe for breakthrough cases seems rather presumptive. I go with Darwin on this, not overly complex conclusions I need to make leaps to reach.

Here is the root of the breakthrough cases IMO.

If you introduce a variable to any organism in nature that make its survival difficult, it will change or die. Darwin called it evolution, but on a short time scale we see these changes individually as mutations. The best way to cause mutations is to introduce something that kills a pathogen, but not all of the pathogen. Like taking bacteria and growing it in a petri dish with antibiotic meds. It will mutate and eventually take over the antibiotics as a antibiotic resistant strain. Then you can get sick from the bacteria, even if you take that same antibiotic. These types of changes occur with everything in nature as far as we know, bacteria, viruses, mammals, reptiles, it does not matter. Darwin proved this.

So now you take a half baked vaccine that does not keep out 100% of the virus. So you have "less symptoms" with a lower viral load because the virus is having a hard time surviving in you. Then we start getting a bunch of mutations. Now COVID can spread much more easily at a lower viral load.

Seems to me the exact way the vaccine attacked COVID, is the exact way the new mutations of COVID have changed to combat those environmental changes and still survive, and spread at lower loads. If it did not become more infectious at lower viral loads, it would have died. So it evolved the way Darwin would have predicted. It also evolved the way many doctors and scientists predicted who are censored in 2020.

This is evolution. My hypothesis follows the actual science of the past 100 years. If someone can prove this argument wrong because I missed something, go for it. Occam's Razor and Darwin seem to win this argument easily.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: MotherMayEye

I saw this. What remains to be seen is if those numbers stay low over time, say in a few weeks or months. Then I'll be worried.

Even if it is not long term, people should be warned they are more vulnerable to viral infections and cancer for that temporary period of time -- especially if they've had cancer in the past.

If they are more vulnerable to breakthrough infections for a period of time, that endangers everyone else, too.

Yes, this is a very good point.

My question would be if that was one patient. Are we seeing a snapshot of an ongoing process unrelated to the vaccine or caused by it? There's no way to know based on one case.

a reply to: ketsuko

Yes, I agree. One patient is not definitive. But this doctor was familiar with this patient's health history prior to the jabs and it was the only cause he could identify for the lab changes.

a reply to: MotherMayEye'
Is this the point in the thread where we smear the guy in the video as a "Flat-Earther' or a 'Squatcher'?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Because I haven't been sicker than normal. I have had one mild illness since being vaccinated, it wasn't abnormal nor right after being vaccinated as if I were weakened. And I hate masks, so if I can possibly go without, I will.

a reply to: TrollMagnet

If this patient is representative of most who have been vaccinated and these are long term immune issues, then I would say nothing is protecting the vaccinated from being infected. If they are infected with Delta, there is no B-cell response because the vaccines are based on the original spike protein. B-cells won't recognize Delta.

Then, if there aren't many T-cells and natural killer cells, the virus will easily replicate without causing symptoms. If killer cells aren't destroying infected cells, then they won't have fever and joint pain...inflammation caused by killer cells doing their job.

The viral loads they carry may be massively high before they show symptoms. To your point, the time it takes to generate a high viral load means there are more opportunities for the virus to mutate.

But we aren't testing their immune systems & we aren't testing them routinely for Covid, either. We really have no idea what is going on.

No, you are not wrong, but it may not be what's happening here. It is a possibility though.

I wonder if after you get the first jab and have a lot of killer T-cells present, then you get a second jab, could the mRNA packets get delivered to those killer T-cells and cause them to produce the spike protein? If that is possible, then the vaccinated individual's immune system may recognize the whole T-cell with the spike protein as a virus. I am not knowledgeable enough to know if that is even possible though.