Live Stream of La Plama Volcano Erupting Now.

a reply to: cmdrkeenkid

However unlike a 3m ocean swell generated from wind, a 3 meter high tsunami would likely cause up to a 3 meter high surge or inudution which would submerge a large part of the barrier islands(beach communities) along the east coast.

That would be worst case which is highly unlikely, definitely worth watching just in case the volcano surprises us, I'm already surprised by how quickly it erupted.

a reply to: jrod

The inundation is, at its worst, 3 meters in that study.

EDIT TO ADD:

Link to post with study.

originally posted by: Violater1
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Yes, it would wipe out the East Coast, sweep over the State of Florida, and flood into the Gulf of Mexico as well.
I can't understand why the USGS is not reporting the earthquakes going on here.

Here is the EMSC reporting of over 30 earthquakes in the Canary Islands!

www.emsc-csem.org...:icon('

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Why is the USGS hiding this!!!!!

They are below 2.5 magnitude

a reply to: cmdrkeenkid

A 3 meter runup is not insignificant for flat coastal regions but, as you point out, that is based on an extreme event. It is also what can be expected from a major hurricane, a far more likely occurrence.

That model does show that fine scale predictions are highly problematic though. Local conditions affect runups greatly. For example, my front yard is on the water and yet I am not in a tsunami evacuation zone. However a few miles up the coast, the zone extends for half a mile inland.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: cmdrkeenkid

However unlike a 3m ocean swell generated from wind, a 3 meter high tsunami would likely cause up to a 3 meter high surge or inudution which would submerge a large part of the barrier islands(beach communities) along the east coast.

That would be worst case which is highly unlikely, definitely worth watching just in case the volcano surprises us, I'm already surprised by how quickly it erupted.

Except a surge (hurricane) from wind is more sustained—for a longer period of time, yet somewhat more "concentrated" to a section of coast.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Violater1

Everyone knows that USGS rarely report anything larger than magnitude 4.5

Earthquakes occurring outside the U.S. that are smaller than about magnitude 4.5 can be difficult for the USGS to locate if there are not enough data. The USGS continues to receive data from observatories throughout the world for several months after the events occur. Using those data, we add new events and revise existing events in our Earthquake Catalog and in later publications.

There are many regional networks around the world that can record smaller earthquakes in their region than the National Earthquake Information Center (NEIC) global network can, and in many cases these regional networks do not share their data with the NEIC. So if you think there is a missing earthquake on our maps and lists, please see the national and regional links for the area of interest:

www.usgs.gov...-news_sc ience_products

But hey, you keep doing you.

Chad ol boy, I won't blame you this time for your ignorance, especially if you believe the USGS saying that they can't get the data. Below, you will see your Gospel of the USGS map showing over 30 (I quite counting at 30) earthquakes under 4.5, many that are around 2.5.

Pro Tip: stop drinking the USGS Kool-Aid.

a reply to: Violater1

believe the USGS saying that they can't get the data.

That is not what they are saying.

many that are around 2.5.

Yes. In the US.

Take a look at the note in the upper right corner of your image.

Want Canary Islands? Try Spain (warning: only greater than 1.5)
www.ign.es...

a reply to: Phage

Exactly. Three meters is roughly ten feet. It's not great, and depending on tides could be worse, but it's a far cry from the tens to hundreds of meters the discredited, yet oh-so-popular, scenarios proclaim.

Underwater topography definitely has an effect on the run up of a tsunami. Most of the eastern seaboard has one hundred miles or more of shallow coastal plane that will help sap any tsunami energy.

a reply to: cmdrkeenkid

No continental shelf protecting Hawaii, but in my case I live in the corner of a wide bay with a relatively narrow mouth and barrier reef. My house is also about 12 feet above sea level. For the past couple of tsunami warnings I went down to my seawall to see if I could see anything. I did, I think, but it might have been my imagination. A few inches of change, total. Elsewhere, there was some moderate damage. Hilo is the opposite of my situation, it is a narrowing bay with a wide mouth with nothing but the deep, deep blue in front of it. It's a bad place to be when there is a tsunami.

The evacuation maps are based both on modeling and historical observations of tsunami effects. Not a lot of the latter for the Eastern Seaboard though.

a reply to: Phage

It would take a considerable meteor strike in the middle of the Atlantic to get 100 foot waves from side to side. Probably something closer in size to a city or most of Rhode Island.

a reply to: Ahabstar

Yeah. Just not enough energy involved, even with the worst case scenario for La Palma, apparently.

a reply to: Phage

Krakatoa didn’t have enough energy. I always found the idea of a Canary Island landslide akin to letting dry sand slip through your fingers into a bucket. Even is the whole island was pulled into the ejecta 100’s of feet into the air. Just not enough mass and speed to do it.

a reply to: Ahabstar

Yeah. I think Day and Ward figured it would just slide off as one big chunk, more or less. That's not the way it happened before, not likely to happen that way any time soon.

a reply to: Phage

Some of the idea makes sense as you can travel the Great Plains and find black volcanic rock scattered here and there that I can only fathom as coming from the Yellowstone Caldera or some adjacent volcanic system. But there are also black rocks scorched from very old wildfires of the grasslands as well that look volcanic.

No sign of the eruption slowing down. So far today, the island has suffered 5 additional earthquakes, and the Strait of Gibralter has experienced 6.
www.emsc-csem.org...

Still shot of the lava field engulfing whole neighborhoods.



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originally posted by: Violater1
This is the island, that if the Earthquake or volcanic eruption is strong enough, the Western part of the island can slide into the Atlantic and send a tidal wave thousands of feet high to the U.S. East Coast!

It's just a difference in simulation models. Either one COULD be true or none of them. Truth is, it's all speculation and nobody knows until it happens

originally posted by: Violater1
This is the island, that if the Earthquake or volcanic eruption is strong enough, the Western part of the island can slide into the Atlantic and send a tidal wave thousands of feet high to the U.S. East Coast!

I can't imagine that being anywhere near the truth. This is one of those chances to distract people from the Charges being filed on the Clinton foundation Lawyer and the domino falling there. Doom porn is needed by the media to distract us.

A large Tsunami as you described cannot likely happen they way the depict it. That type of event needs something like a small asteroid making a splashdown or a physical pole shift. Not that I would ever forget to be prepared for the Island to sink and cause some kind of event. That is likely but to be so severe I would think not.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Ahabstar

Yeah. I think Day and Ward figured it would just slide off as one big chunk, more or less. That's not the way it happened before, not likely to happen that way any time soon.

I am going to agree with you on this very much.

La Palma volcano update: Surface continues to deform, uplift reaches 19 cm

The scenario of new eruptive fissures opening might be not that unlikely at all. The surface continues to inflate, which is a sign that more magma is being stored underground that (can erupt) erupts at the surface - the existing paths are not large enough. The volcano might choose to either enlarge them or create new ones.....

keep track of La Palma EQ's

I’m Keeping my eye in this ….Ans appreciating the updates from everyone .I live in Florida and this makes me alittle nervous , not enough to freak out , but ….