The "vaccine" is free so we can save lives!

So the manufactures are not taking profit? They donated their services?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Okay...why aren't Cancer treatments free then???

Sorry, the OP is simply wrong. They aren't free. Just because the recipient isn't charged doesn't mean they are free.

Proof they aren't free you ask? The pharma company providing the jabs is being paid for each one.

The question is - who is paying for it (and all other free-but-not-really-free things)?

The answer is - all of us (via our taxes)...

a reply to: nonspecific

I’m in the NHS queue to see an ENT specialist after GP referral.

53 weeks average wait time for an appointment.

That's because of the pandemic though not because the NHS is terrible compared to the US system as was suggested.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: nonspecific

I’m in the NHS queue to see an ENT specialist after GP referral.

53 weeks average wait time for an appointment.

Nothing is for free...there are always consequences.

a reply to: nonspecific

Is it because of the pandemic or the campaign to attain global herd immunity through mandated mass vaccination? I think it’s better described as herd stupidity, it’s a war against freedom of thinking, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of worship, freedom to travel, basically add freedom to any word you like.

We’re being treated like a herd, shepherded into the slaughterhouse. There’s a reason masks have been used forever as a way to hide identity.

The simple answer is because a vaccine costs very little compared to all those things you mention.

I understand your point but it is a bit of a fallacy argument. A covid vaccine is about $15 whereas a course of dialysis is over 1,000 times more costly.

My Astra zenica jabs cost £2.17 a pop.

That's less than a Costa.


a reply to: and14263

I didn't really intend for this thread to become a commentary on socialized medicine, but I can understand how it has morphed into this. And, I think I stated back a couple pages ago that, yes, I understand that nothing is truly "free", but that's not the context of my usage of the word 'free' in the OP. Somebody always pays.

No, my point was just to illustrate the oddity of the forcefulness with which this 'vaccine' is being pushed on the public, and some of the justifications the media and others are using to encourage people to get it. I find it very odd and out of place. In fact, everything about this covid virus, the vaccine, the constantly changing information and countless other things, I find odd. Very odd.

I am not a covid denier, but I am very skeptical it is the threat to humanity it has been made out to be. Very skeptical. I cited other terrible afflictions in my OP simply to point out that the people who die from these maladies are every bit as important to the world as people who die from covid (or whatever they died from, but got labeled as covid). I find it pretty disingenuous that the media and talking heads are touting the virus as "free" here in the US when other treatments for things which are far more deadly are not. And yes, I understand that some of those listed in the OP are not contagious like covid is alleged to be. I get that. Again though, this wasn't really the point.

I don't really have an opinion on socialized medicine. I do have opinions on some of the fixes which should be implemented to correct the systemic medical cost woes we experience, socialized or not, but again that wasn't really the point here either. And, as an example, one of these 'fixes' doesn't even involve the insurance or medical provider community, but rather the legal community. But I digress.

In summary, I guess I'm just skeptical. I'm skeptical of a world that I seem to understand less and less each successive day. I'm skeptical of government leadership, I'm skeptical of agendas seemingly run amok, I'm skeptical of 'news' which is no longer news, but propaganda.

I'm just skeptical.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

AMEN flying

absolutely right, if they truly care then why are we paying for any medicine
if this whole thing was about compassion for the fellow man then we'd see free medicine legislation changes all over the world.

You'd have to be extremely naive or completely brain dead not to see that the Pharma industry is all about profit from suffering, so to think that this is done from the heart and is purely altruistic is complete rubbish.

a reply to: ColeYounger

CEASE YOUR INVESTIGATIONS

also

"that's above your clearance private "

a reply to: nonspecific

I've got one tomorrow, travelling abroad with work a lot starting October so need to get them in! I rarely take any medication at all so this is a first for me. Other than previous vaccines for SE Asia and a course of tablets for another issue.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Could the infectious and pandemic parts of the equation possibly have something to do with it?

No, because every previous pandemic passed without forced vaccinations and mask mandates. If this deadly virus is stopped by masks (it isn't) where are the biohazard bags to handle deadly mask waste? All EMT infectious disease training has been completely ignored by authorities. Those in charge demonstrate this isn't an actual threat. Authorities are treating one patient with monkey pox more effectively and more seriously than all their Covid-19 responses combined. Not to mention the mysterious collective amnesia about those who have already survived already contributing to herd immunity. The religious devotion of the vaccinism cult is comical to those who have worked around infectious diseases. a reply to: GravitySucks

a reply to: SentientBunnySuit

Way to put a spit-ton of words into my mouth as a jumping off point for your rant.

My point, again, just for you. Covid-19 is contagious. Cancer, diabetes, and so on are not.

Chicken pox is also contagious, potentially deadly to adults, and vaccines are readily available, yet no one is calling for universal vaccination for chicken pox. Also like COVID-19, you can't get it again if you've already had it. The difference is everyone acknowledges natural immunity exists for chicken pox but magically forgot how that works for COVID-19.

originally posted by: JIMC5499
Funny. I got a notice from my insurance company that they paid $48 for each of my shots.

Maybe you shouldn't have provided your insurance info, since it's not necessary for the vaccine. Insurance gonna reap when they can.

originally posted by: SentientBunnySuit
Chicken pox is also contagious, potentially deadly to adults, and vaccines are readily available, yet no one is calling for universal vaccination for chicken pox.

Lots of things are "contagious". It's not a lethal respiratory illness, like Covid, that has a tendency to overrun hospitals due to unchecked widespread contagion.

There are zero hospitals currently being overrun by the current virus. The only difference between COVID-19 and the flu is COVID-19 has a PR team. Also the flu mutates more rapidly in the wild, while there appears to be an upper limit on how fast Anthony Fauchi can write checks to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for new gain-of-function respiratory viruses.

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