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originally posted by: FreeOrigin
its a matter of calculating the risk vs benefit. If we were talking about Ebola, I'd have gotten the vaccine100 times over and be drinking it straight out of the bottle.
They keep drilling on the ' Safe-and-Effective™ ' line so much, it's sickening.
On French radio : the commercials mention how the jibber-jabbers are the ONLY way out.
originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
Why does the CDC have a Zombie Apocalypse page really?
Now i really dont think that such a thing as a Zombie Apocalypse would actually happen. I think they opened that zombie thing just for out of it because of the Zombie mania because a few years back problary just five years ago there was a spike of interest in movies and games about Zombies.
That has died down though.
Since the early mid 2000s i had heard about the mRNAs how it was supposed to be used a cure or just a short time solution for patients that had cancers. There were some succecss with a few trial patients according to some studies. But again like with the mRNA vaccines they havent released a long term study of the side effects of the mRNA.
Which is interesting.
originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
I have worked for the NRC, SDI, DARPA, Military, CI, Universities and the private sector in R&D. I was tasked with building a mRNA/rDNA transport model in 2005/2006. So, I built the model and ran modeled test subjects.
The very early models of the mRNA? u mean the ones that were supposed to be tested on those patients who had cancers? pretty sure around that time they tested the mRNA on the mices.
Systems perspectives on mRNA processing
he application of genomic technologies to the study of mRNA processing is increasingly conducted in metazoan organisms in order to understand the complex events that occur during and after transcription. Large-scale systems analyses of mRNA-protein interactions and mRNA dynamics have revealed specificity in mRNA transcription, splicing, transport, translation, and turnover, and have begun to make connections between the different layers of mRNA processing.
I remember reading mRNA was tried with the SARS virus? Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus.
I am slightly confused at the end of the conclusion they claimed that they had antibody but let to another issue? i hope you will find this interesting.
Actually i think mRNA vaccines should be halted. But that's my opinion.
Cheers buddy
originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: OccamsRazor04
How can you establish “safer” when it’s experimental with a long long way till proper emperical data has been gathered and evaluated, over extended periods of time?
That is proper “science” for those spouting the term these days.
originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: Nothin
It seems to me that in the land of "Candakistan" those doctors who appear on TV and on news outlets like CTV, CBC, City News it seems that they have more time to be promoting the covid vaccines rather then being or spending/dealing with their patients.
I wonder whatever has happened to hospitals in Canada being overwhelmed. Ever news clip that i saw on YT on their channels showed the hopstials not being overwhelmed.
They keep drilling on the ' Safe-and-Effective™ ' line so much, it's sickening.
On French radio : the commercials mention how the jibber-jabbers are the ONLY way out.
Reminds me like a scene from the video game...
A Newfoundland woman who said she contracted a disease linked to bat droppings during a trip to Cuba is warning other travellers to avoid cave excursions on the island.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
You should make a thread on this.
I have only been able to follow the press releases and have a rudimentary understanding of the science in general.
It is more common sense to me.
Would love to hear more of your thoughts on this.
originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
I know i do have concerns. Which i do hope hopefully the mRNA might get halted. At some point.
Well these mRNA vaccines fail and more injures or reports start happening i think and do believe that many people lose faith in vaccination.
It seems lessons from the previous pandemic and vaccination like the swine flu vaccination that went horribly bad. Had being forgotten.
I saw some older news articles.
This covid thing isn't a new virus it has being around since the 50s and 60s. Oh and further interesting reading for you.
Imagine a bat virus so deadly that it only infected the tourists from Cuba and that virus didn't spread to start a pandemic.
This headline ironical just happened before covid.
Canadian who contracted cave disease in Cuba warns travellers of risk
A Newfoundland woman who said she contracted a disease linked to bat droppings during a trip to Cuba is warning other travellers to avoid cave excursions on the island.
Travelers ages some were in their 40s,30s,60s.
Newfoundland travellers contract mysterious disease traced to cave trip in Cuba
I am surprised that didnt spread as much? from a neutral virus from the bats in a cave.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: aTechnician
originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Might not be safe or effective, it is however extremely profitable. Now STFU and give me your arm if you want to have any sort of freedom.
Well... until you need a booster shot or some other sort of emergency, we can't guaranties.
The fact they are already talking of booster shots is alarming.
This seems like the next "I'm writing a book" version of government fundraising.
Once the FDA approves this, IF they approve it, this will be the largest fundraising boost to any liberal platform in history....
originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
That is exactly what I been worried about, the human body is made to be able to take are of itself, is called immune system, the body does not like is tampered with, when the natural way of things is changed, you do not need to be a genius to figure that, is simple.
Pharma will love to weaken humans immune system to make people dependent to their targeted treatments for life.
Even it that means killing a few in the process, after all the world is full of a lot of people, many useless human beings in big pharma eyes.
My daughter did her studies in cell biology you are not far from the way she sees this new targeted treatments for humans she knows it will be complications at cellular level with this treatments and this is the reason she told me and my husband to wait on this shot and let see first what happen a few years from now.
I keep saying over and over, this no about covid this is about the technology been involved.
Now is like an urgency with this shots, is like it needs to be pushed on as many humans as is possible even when we already can tell what covid virus is and is not.
I think the worst of this shots is still to come, I wonder how much of the crap in those shots needs to be in the human body and the reason the next round of shots is already been worked on to start this year.
Can this shot become some kind of code?
"It's a remarkable achievement, but we won't be satisfied until all adults are fully vaccinated in the city. That means we have to keep pushing and keep going."
Tory said the city needs to continue bringing vaccines to where residents live. "The progress we have made in Toronto with almost 60 per cent of adults now fully vaccinated is incredible, but we still have of work to do to ensure that all residents across all areas of the city have access to vaccinations," Tory said in a news release on Sunday.