Haiti requests US troops to protect infrastructure after assassination

Wouldn't this be better if it were a United Nations exercise, instead of the good ole USA?

Not saying we won't do our part, but this needs to be a coalition.

Most every time we get involved in the Caribbean it doesn't end well, not to mention some Haitians seem opposed to the idea, as they were before. That said might be better to keep it as a US thing than might help it from going south.

“Another deployment of foreign troops to Haiti would be a disaster,” said Jake Johnston, a Haiti specialist from the Center for Economic and Policy Research thinktank. “To think that foreign intervention is a solution to this is mind-boggling.

“Just look at the 2004 deployment of UN forces,” Johnson added, noting how that almost 15-year mission had failed to achieve its key objectives of creating a stable democracy with a functioning and effective police force.

Kinsley Jean, a student leader and political activist, said he was “fervently” against foreign military interventions in his country. “This is not what we need right now.


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Haiti requests US troops to protect infrastructure after the assassination

Haiti’s government has requested that the United States send troops to protect key infrastructure after the assassination of President Jovenel Moïse this week, the elections minister, Mathias Pierre, said on Friday.

The US state department confirmed the request but was non-committal on the US response.

“The Haitian government has requested security and investigative assistance, and we remain in regular contact with Haitian officials to discuss how the United States can assist,” a state department spokesperson said.

Separately, the White House said the US would send a delegation including senior FBI and homeland security officials to Haiti as soon as possible.

Isn't Haiti a land of pot smokers?

Voodoo weed on the cheap.
Go USA!

originally posted by: Homefree
Voodoo weed on the cheap.
Go USA!

Actually in Miami it was Jamaican weed . LOL

a reply to: putnam6

Maybe that was the reason for the assassination.

originally posted by: putnam6
Wouldn't this be better if it were a United Nations exercise, instead of the good ole USA?

Sure, if you want the United Nations 'peacekeepers' to stand around watching as children get raped while the officials fleece the country.

But we shouldn't go either despite being better enabled to do the job. It's time the Haitians sorted out their own hell hole.

The only, and I mean "ONLY", credible reason for any US presence in Haiti is solely due to its proximity to the USA! Otherwise, the United States shouldn't spend two flipping CENTS on that filthy sh#hole! Let 'em ROT!

Well, there you go. At least one country that actually wants to be occupied.

a reply to: Ohanka

They only want to be occupied while everyone has the sympathy checkbook out!

The minute that checkbook gets put away, those same people will be all over CNN protesting the "Unlawful US OCCUPATION!"

originally posted by: Ohanka
Well, there you go. At least one country that actually wants to be occupied.

Some elements of the country want to be occupied. Others surely don't want any outsiders there. Sadly those are the predators (or aligned with the predators) that are capitalizing on this power vacuum.

No way should 1 American soldier step foot on Haitian soil unless it's part of a wider coalition to keep the peace, but even that has demonstrated itself as utterly ineffective.

OTOH this is primed and ready to mushroom into a humanitarian crisis, par for the course with Haiti.

Another illustration of the impotency and uselessness of the UN. Here is more information about the recently concluded 15 year project in Haiti.

The United Nations Mission for Justice Support in Haiti (MINUJUSTH) completed its mandate on 15 October 2019, putting an end to 15 consecutive years of peacekeeping operations in the country. The United Nations family will continue supporting Haiti with a new configuration, through the 19 agencies, funds and programmes present in the country and the United Nations Integrated Office in Haiti (BINUH), established by the Security Council resolution 2476 (2019).

What a monumental WASTE OF RESOURCES.

And the more you dig into "UN peacekeeping mission", the more idiotic and bone-headed you'll realize their priorities are regarding stabilizing Haiti. WTF was the UN *doing* this past 15 years?? From their own summary of their work, the conclusion I reach is that the majority of their work under the heading "rule of law" was about improving prison conditions and sorting out "gender issues".

o_O

In terms of corrections, MINUJUSTH work includes:

Support the Prison Administration Direction (Direction de l'administration pénitentiaire, DAP) in the passing and enforcement of a legislative framework aligned with international human rights standards, including gender issues.
Place MINUJUSTH corrections officers in key prison facilities and DAP central services to provide expert advice and support, and help enhance detention conditions and administration, including gender sensitive prison management.
Support the Haiti National Police (HNP) restructuring, to elevate DAP as an administrative and financially independent central directorate within it.
Support the implementation of DAP Strategic Development Plan (2017 to 2021), including the certification of nine of the 19 prisons in the country, ensuring that they can be fully operational without MINUJUSTH or other international support.
Reinforce DAP personnel gender component and strengthen DAP staff competencies and capacities at the strategic and operational levels through framing, interventions, mentoring and training, enhancing its overall professionalism.
Back the fight against prison overcrowding and prolonged pre-trial detention, supporting the improvement of health and hygiene services available to inmates, as well as the establishment of social reintegration programs adapted to the reality and needs of the prison population in Haiti.
Facilitate contact with partners, ensuring coordination of efforts to maximize partner interventions’ results and sustainability.

Utter GARBAGE. This island can't elect and protect a president from assassination, has demonstrated no interest in setting up government continuity with peaceful transition of power, and the UN focuses its efforts on "prison overcrowding" and "gender issues"??

The UN has to be the single most useless endeavor for peace and humanitarian missions in the history of mankind. Not one penny of US funding should continue going to that fraudulent, bumbling and discombobulated group of nincompoops. They're sent in to fix a Hell-hole country, and they zero in on prison overcrowding (what did they do, just start releasing people from prison??) and "gender issues".

a reply to: putnam6

Quite obviously the only solution to Haiti is to evacuate the entire population and permanently close the island. It could be better used aa a nuclear bomb testing site.

originally posted by: TonyS
Quite obviously the only solution to Haiti is to evacuate the entire population and permanently close the island. It could be better used aa a nuclear bomb testing site.

There's another country on the island.

a reply to: TonyS

The Dominican Republic might not be real happy with that solution!

Gee Haiti, we'd like to help, and all, but we have too many problems of our own.

We still have to deal with our number one threat, white supremacists. Additionally, we have too many unvaccinated people because of misinformation being spread on social media. Our democracy is under attack from voter suppression laws. Too many people are dying because we can't outlaw guns for law abiding citizens. Another insurrection is right around the corner. We still have statues of Confederate generals all over the country. Not enough refugees and immigrants are being allowed into the country. And we still haven't figured out a way to put Donald Trump in jail.

Our plate is full at the moment. Maybe China can help you out.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

I realize your post is just in sarcasm, but your last sentence is actually a real concern. China would love to step in and build a giant military base, airbase and port, erm, 'help' Haiti.

This is probably one of the most credible reasons the US should actually act on the Haiti issue. If we don't, someone else just might!

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: VictorVonDoom

I realize your post is just in sarcasm, but your last sentence is actually a real concern. China would love to step in and build a giant military base, airbase and port, erm, 'help' Haiti.

This is probably one of the most credible reasons the US should actually act on the Haiti issue. If we don't, someone else just might!

I hear ya

That is the only reason that made me pause while reading the article and think anything but no way Jose. That said it seems the US is just gonna slowly get involved and do it half-assed, and slowly get drug into the cesspit like we almost always do in situations like this.

a reply to: putnam6

Good News! the Clintons have some free time, and some leftover money in the charity account, I hear they are going to go down and help out with the kids. Don't worry, it's all on the up and up.

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: putnam6

Maybe that was the reason for the assassination.

Good Lord, you can't be suggesting CIA involvement!!!

Kidding, I know you weren't, that would be silly.

originally posted by: Ohanka
Well, there you go. At least one country that actually wants to be occupied.

LOL. When I was deployed down there after the 2010 earthquake, people were shaking the fence of the beautiful reclaimed landfill we built our EMEDS on, yelling, "Yanqui go home!" No kidding. The whole world showed up to help. Other than the sick and injured, who were extremely grateful, the average Jean BaggaBeignets didn't seem thrilled the US was there. The Haitian government wouldn't even allow us to fly the US flag in camp.

Probably evident I'm not a huge fan of Haiti. Let someone not the US figure this one out for them.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Sorry, mispoke; evacuate Haiti; turn the balance of the island over to the Dominican Republic