Woke mom worried about white male baby

The future is not looking bright if children are being raised this way.

a reply to: ColeYounger
As a mother, I can't even formulate out the disgust I feel about this human.

This is outright psychotic to take on a mother role with the mindset she displays. This will be up her mind in everything she does and teaches. As it looks now, she will tell her son how awful he is because of his SKIN COLOR and the fact that he is a male, constantly.

WTF.

a reply to: ColeYounger

She’s too dumb to see that introducing a polemic where the issue is non-existent isn’t a preventative measure, but is far more likely to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

There seems to be a gap in market for kids books about how not to grow up be a virtue signalling idiot.

How does she know her baby is a male? Isn’t she projecting the gender she wants for the child before they have formed their own gender identity?

a reply to: ColeYounger

a reply to: Rob808

😂 nice!

a reply to: Nyiah

These key values you keep harping on -- respect and empathy -- are inherent. Innate. NATURAL. Not taught, and certainly not from some #ty self-hate teaching SJW book. You either have these morality & ethics cornerstones, or you do not, it's hardwired in, or left out entirely for the psychopaths/sociopaths. This is in effect blaming the boy for being a boy and expecting # behavior of him.

What a crock! I guess we don't need parents at all, right? Because everyone is just born who and what they are, no need to teach them anything... like these men:

Lots of Men Don’t Think Rape Is Rape

Just born rapists, right? Nothing to do about it, right? And their apologists??? Nothing to do about them either?

If I sat here and said "Whelp that's a baby girl that just dropped out the vagina, guess we'll have to edumacate her on how to not look, sound and act like a whore, just, you know, in case -- can't trust a girl to keep her legs shut around boys without teaching it" then you'd have a FIT over the sexism. Check yourself.

I don't need to check myself. I sure as hell did teach my daughter to respect herself and her body. Right along with teaching my son to respect himself and his body. I also taught them to give that same respect and consideration to others, and to respect others and their bodies.

I pity anyone who wasn't taught to do so. I pity any man who is addicted to porn because they never learned healthy and positive attitudes towards sex and relationships. I pity any woman who lets men use and abuse her because she never learned healthy and positive attitudes towards sex and relationships.

And given where we are today, I have to pity a whole lot of people. But not my kids. I didn't pretend like they were idiots with no ability to learn to do the most and the best for themselves. And in the process, to do their best by others.

And I sure as hell won't pretend like anyone here is doing anything except stroking their own ego to mock and belittle a woman for wanting to do better for her son. There was a time when MEN were the first to warn women about men... now men are the first to make piss poor excuses for their bad behavior. And they just love the women who come along to throw other women under the bus for daring to say "HELL NO!!!"

Yes, I'm saying it: The rapists and their apologists appreciate your efforts.

Paint any color lipstick you want on that pig, it's still a pig.

a reply to: Boadicea

Doesn't matter. These statistics do not tell us what percentage -- "per capita" -- of the racial population are rapists. There are no statistics which tell us what percentage of any race are rapists.

It's basic math that you have to use to come up with it yourself. It's basic math to take the population number, the number of rapists and calculate the per capita value.

Seriously this is absolute basic five grader's math. You can do it yourself, you don't need officials to give you something to believe in, all you have to do is sit down with an honest effort to get smart yourself.

What we do know is that almost all rapes are committed by men.

That's untrue. The number on raped men is very blurry and there have been lot of research about the physchological "weakness" factor that many men feel and not even report it.

You know, because "men can not be raped". That's absolute bull# since there are physical factors that can force an erection to a man. "They have to want it" is absolute bull# coming from mostly woman with no clue and trying to make them feel on top or better than man.

For woman it's about 1:20 and men raped by woman is 1:70 roughly. Opposite gender rape acts. 1 out of 70 reported is about tripple less than woman, granted but it's far far far from "almost all rapes are comited by men".

That's ancient bull# really.

Can't wait until she asks herself where she went wrong, when all that pampering an so called patience an guidance, leads her choir boy into learning the wonders of multi ethical Gangsta Rap, an with him cussing her off like that white boy in Russell Peters.

Although I doubt, he learned to use that hateful, sexually, violently oppressive(you know it is) word from the music, an more or less her.

Goes to show, want to get out of the hole, put down the shovel.

Dbl

a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain

It's basic math that you have to use to come up with it yourself. It's basic math to take the population number, the number of rapists and calculate the per capita value. Seriously this is absolute basic five grader's math. You can do it yourself, you don't need officials to give you something to believe in, all you have to do is sit down with an honest effort to get smart yourself.

Big big sigh. No, it's not "basic math." You are conflating the number of offenses with the number of offenders. It doesn't work that way. We cannot assume that each rapist is a one-time offender. They are not. It is well documented that sex offenders tend to be multi-offenders. It's not an isolated incident.

In fact, most sex offenders have some form of obsessive or compulsive disorder, and their offenses tend to escalate. For example, they might start by flashing, move up to grabbing and groping, then on to rape, then on to torture, rape and murder.

That's untrue. The number on raped men is very blurry and there have been lot of research about the physchological "weakness" factor that many men feel and not even report it.

I did not even address the number of male victims, only male perpetrators. And it does not change according to the victim. The sex of the perpetrator is almost always male, whether their victim is male or female. It is also well documented that if/when women are involved in sexual assaults as perpetrators, it is almost always in conjunction with a male. It is extraordinarily rare for a woman alone to sexually assault a man. And in the vast majority of cases in which a woman sexually assaults another woman, it is usually within a prison or other restricted institutional setting. Not always, but most often. This also applies to sexual offenses against children, in which women are more often complicit in a male sexually offending a child, but they seldom do so alone.

You know, because "men can not be raped". That's absolute bull# since there are physical factors that can force an erection to a man. "They have to want it" is absolute bull# coming from mostly woman with no clue and trying to make them feel on top or better than man.

I never said or suggested or even hinted at any such thing. I have spoken ONLY to men as perpetrators. And to the extent that it is pertinent to this OP/topic, a mother teaching her son not to be a rapist would therefore benefit his wouldbe male victims as much as his wouldbe female victims.

For woman it's about 1:20 and men raped by woman is 1:70 roughly. Opposite gender rape acts. 1 out of 70 reported is about tripple less than woman, granted but it's far far far from "almost all rapes are comited by men".

Please. First, let's be clear in our terms: Rape is most often defined as penile penetration. Women do not have penises. Therefore women CANNOT rape by legal definition. They can commit other serious sexual assaults and offenses, but not rape.

And please source your statistics, because I'm not finding the same. Studies of female sex offenders are few and far between to begin with. However, worldwide, women are thought to commit somewhere between 2% to 11% of sexual offenses, and this includes trafficking as well as actual assault (think Ghislane Maxwell).

The simple truth is that men commit the vast majority of sexual assaults, and female sex offenders are more often accomplices to men before/during/after the fact than the sole perpetrator (and even then, the victim is most often a child -- not a grown ass adult).

Now, if you want to make the case that mothers should be teaching their daughters not to be predators as well as their sons, I'm right there with you. Otherwise, I don't see any point here.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Nyiah

These key values you keep harping on -- respect and empathy -- are inherent. Innate. NATURAL. Not taught, and certainly not from some #ty self-hate teaching SJW book. You either have these morality & ethics cornerstones, or you do not, it's hardwired in, or left out entirely for the psychopaths/sociopaths. This is in effect blaming the boy for being a boy and expecting # behavior of him.

What a crock! I guess we don't need parents at all, right? Because everyone is just born who and what they are, no need to teach them anything... like these men:

Lots of Men Don’t Think Rape Is Rape

Let me be dismissive here: I. Don't CARE. Would you like to know why?

You had to go back 6 years to find anything worth a # to argue with.

We'eeeere done there then. 6 year old talking points don't sell. I do these kinds of academic studies every day, & for the psych student/research ones, it's a common topic. You telling me in all these years of studies I've done on that site, about this topic, and none of them were published? Best you could dig up was from '15?

Not exactly the best start to bolstering anything.

If I sat here and said "Whelp that's a baby girl that just dropped out the vagina, guess we'll have to edumacate her on how to not look, sound and act like a whore, just, you know, in case -- can't trust a girl to keep her legs shut around boys without teaching it" then you'd have a FIT over the sexism. Check yourself.

I don't need to check myself. I sure as hell did teach my daughter to respect herself and her body. Right along with teaching my son to respect himself and his body. I also taught them to give that same respect and consideration to others, and to respect others and their bodies.

You didn't say squat about respecting themselves, you're harping on then thinking about others. Teaching your kid not to be a babymama with 6 kids is one thing, that is simply teaching smart breeding (humans are NOT smart breeders, see the Duggars and similar) and not to bite off more from the offpring cookie than can be chewed.

An overstressed, overworked single mom with 5 kids is going to have a harder time of it than the married mom with 3 when it comes to refining the existing basic defaults of morality & ethics I highlighted earlier -- again, except for those lacking it entirely, most folks are born with the system already in place.

From there, those built-ins are tailored to the culture. Your life and your kids' would be very different if you instilled in them what other continents consider culturally relevant to personal conduct rules. At the end of the day Bob from London might not agree with Jim from New York that a smack on the secretary's fanny is proper still, BUT they'd probably agree that forcibly ramming the johnson in someone isn't right or acceptable, and should warrant either fertilizing crops, or living the eunuch life in a prison somewhere.

The basics of treating people as thou wants to be treated is a part of our methods of survival. If you're nice to me, you stand good odds of the day going well for you. And the next and the next, et al. I may even be willing to lend helping hands to polite enough strangers. This was not taught to me by anyone, it is an innate understanding of how to successfully interact with others.

I pity anyone who wasn't taught to do so. I pity any man who is addicted to porn because they never learned healthy and positive attitudes towards sex and relationships. I pity any woman who lets men use and abuse her because she never learned healthy and positive attitudes towards sex and relationships.

Meh, more to it than a thrill, addicts are addicts. A needle junkie can quit that and get hooked on food easy as hell. An addictive personality is an addictive personality, they look for ANY excuse to get a literal bodily chemical rise. Sex is typically just the least scorned way.

And honestly, I can't pity many people who repeatedly jump into abusive relationships. I'm going there -- they covertly like it or the attention they get from being the battered woman. If they didn't they, wouldn't be on boyfriend number 46 that smacks her around. It's either down-low secret BDSM-leaning kinks for 'em, or they're not that bright. As in, the IQ may be below what even the military will recruit in.

And given where we are today, I have to pity a whole lot of people. But not my kids. I didn't pretend like they were idiots with no ability to learn to do the most and the best for themselves. And in the process, to do their best by others.

That coupled with your overall stance here makes you a bit of a #ty parenting individual, at least from the justifications end of it, honestly. You're telling them that they're not stupid and can figure out how to treat someone kindly and respectfully, except you're telling them they're so stupid as to need...SJW intervention.

And I sure as hell won't pretend like anyone here is doing anything except stroking their own ego to mock and belittle a woman for wanting to do better for her son. There was a time when MEN were the first to warn women about men... now men are the first to make piss poor excuses for their bad behavior. And they just love the women who come along to throw other women under the bus for daring to say "HELL NO!!!"

I'm getting the distinct impression you did not watch the woman's video. Can I adopt a black baby, buy "How To Have a Black Son With No Babymamas or Arrest Records" books, and call it good? I mean, it's a hypothetical black baby here, it's going to grow up and be all that, right? This is the same level of holy # offensiveness based on skin and crotch. It's WRONG. And this is what you defend as good? Exactly where are your ethics and morality right now?

Yes, I'm saying it: The rapists and their apologists appreciate your efforts.

Paint any color lipstick you want on that pig, it's still a pig.

Refer to the last bit up above ^^ Come back to me when you've figured out wide brushes are idiotic and counterproductive.

a reply to: Nyiah

If you know half as much as what you want me to believe you know -- and I do tend to believe you do -- then you know damn well that too many young men today are struggling in many many ways, especially sexually and in relationships. Make all the excuses and deflections and piss poor excuses you want. I ain't buying it.

We both know damn well that everyone -- EVERYONE -- is the sum product of nurture and nature. Not just one. Not just the other. BOTH. And the influence, teachings, and examples of parents is absolutely crucial in the mental, physical and emotional health and well being of their children, well into adulthood.

There is no good reason to mock and belittle a mother trying to teach her son not to be a rapist, and yet that is exactly what this thread is all about. The proof is in the pudding.

I have said what I meant and I meant what I said. I'm good with that. I'm damn proud of that. Everyone's words will stand on their own merit.

And now I'm done with this rape apologist thread.

Wait, did she just assume his gender?!

The nerve!!

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: ThatDamnDuckAgain
You are conflating the number of offenses with the number of offenders. It doesn't work that way. We cannot assume that each rapist is a one-time offender. They are not. It is well documented that sex offenders tend to be multi-offenders. It's not an isolated incident.

This would be true for the other side of the argument, too.

In fact, most sex offenders have some form of obsessive or compulsive disorder, and their offenses tend to escalate. For example, they might start by flashing, move up to grabbing and groping, then on to rape, then on to torture, rape and murder.

You don't need to tell me this, I know from experience and I won't argue with you on this. For my case it was a woman, so go figure why I answered what I did. I am not a male either.

You're basically preaching to me how almost everytime it's a male when I have personal experience it isn't and the therapy group, as far as I could tell, it was very mixed. Not 90/10 but I can not give you accurate numbers either. The numbers I gave you were those that I learned in an informal therapy session years ago.

Thank you for the attention.

a reply to: Boadicea

There is no good reason to mock and belittle a mother trying to teach her son not to be a rapist, and yet that is exactly what this thread is all about. The proof is in the pudding.

No, you're wrong again. No one in this thread is doing what you claim.

Apparently, you still have not grasped the concepts being explained (numerous times) in this thread. I thought you were trolling, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I can only surmise that you didn't even watch the video.

First and foremost, you don't seem to be able to understand the basic premise of my thread, which is this:
I'm (as are many others here) criticizing the girl for assuming her baby will be an 'awful' human being because he's a white male. She is literally looking upon her own baby as inherently bad or evil. You seem to be fine with that. You keep defending her and saying what a great mother she is. NO ONE else agrees with you.

People are criticizing the girl for being a bad parent. They explained exactly why. She's a lunatic.
But you keep defending her, and calling her critics "rape apologists". Your logic is convoluted in the extreme.

It's also obvious that you love to argue.

a reply to: ColeYounger

H.P. Lovecraft had a mother like that. He turned out great.

Don't pretend it's a new thing people are dumb and awful.

1. Woke lefty says something wacky. Gets views.

2. Conservative / politics YouTuber makes fun of it. Gets views.

Rinse and repeat.

Everyone just stiring you up to get your views for advertiser money.

originally posted by: MRinder
a reply to: ColeYounger

This is quite the conundrum. In order to have an awful white male baby, didn't she have to first have sex with an awful white male?

I am psychic. I can see the future; specifically, in this instance, I can see an inevitable moment into the father's future. In it, he and his son are alone on a state hiway, somewhere in the country, the father turns to his son and verily declares, in a strong Southern accent, "The first thing I'm gonna do when I get home is punch your mama in the mouth."

My heart goes out to her. Everyone can see her point since these types that she mentions have created so many problems on the planet. a reply to: ColeYounger

originally posted by: BobbyJoeSmiths
My heart goes out to her. Everyone can see her point since these types that she mentions have created so many problems on the planet. a reply to: ColeYounger

You cannot speak for others. We don’t share your prejudice on race and gender.

Curious why is it ok to assign gender to this baby and then gender shame this baby, which at this point is a baby, the embodiment of innocence?