[Continued from above]
What was going on in the mid 3rd century? Well.. We arent really sure. It seems all over the world this time period repeatedly comes up as a one full
of mystery/intrigue. I wont go into too much but anyone a fan of SLAYERs threads likely recognizes the time period at the very least lol it seems as a
whole this time period most of humanity kind of hit a "roadbump" of some type. We have a lot of pretty drastic change happening in a relatively short
time. The fall of rome, some of the first relics of Christianity and Buddhisim are starting to be found, great mounds and Necropolis begon showing all
over, changes in burials being a very specific theme arising at this period. These are just a few of the dozens of examples that came up
Archaeologists Discover Important Etruscan-Roman Cemetery With Strange Burials In Corsica
Inside an Etruscan hypogeum on Corsica
A mass grave from the catacomb of Saints Peter and Marcellinus in Rome, second-third century AD
Massive ancient death pit filled with hundreds of
corpses uncovered in northern Spain
Plague of Cyprian, 250-270 CE
We know of other plagues in the first few centuries, where we are pretty sure we know the pathogen. So this was a period where multiple epidemics were
going on, and sandwiched in-between 2 more notable plagues is the socalled "Cyprian Plague". It was so named for Saint Cyprian of Carthage due to his
words being one of the 2 main records to document at all, though recently several more independent accounts have been discovered that reference the
To give an idea of roughly 250AD Rome is crumbling, and Christianity starts to come under persecution after a period of general coexistence for
several decades. It is my suggestion this happens at least in part by the virus that had been working its way through the population in waves - under
my assumptiom that the "1889 Flu" that lasted for nearly a decade could be an example of rhe full life-cycle of a coronavirus epidemic. (Hence the
hypothetical of this whole rambling post lol)
So we suddenly have the Romam emperors ordering people to worship the Roman Gods or be punished by death. Thats notated heavily but... That seems like
a pretty dramatic turn for a whole society to go along with. Why? Why so much sudden desperation in genersl during this time?
Perhaps because suddenly the Gods were no longer protecting Romans , because of the plagues sweeping through, so this was their answer. In fact this
specific plague seems to have gone a long way in paving the way for Modern Christianity as we know it. The behavior of Christians during this specific
time period and their communications go on to be some of the pillars of the Church itself. The biggest difference seems to come from the ideological
difference. Roman Gods were more "Quid pro quo", "worship me and ill protect you" kind of stuff. Whereas the Religions that.suddenly come into more
favor (Buddhisim /Christianity) deal more with not being afriad of death, being content that even though 'there is suffering' in the end it will be
worth it pretty much.
Here again we seem to have a pretty dramatic change in the common line of thinking, over huge geographic areas. Even when the idea change wasnt
identical, it seems to be one.of similar motivation.
So this event wasnt merely a cold, or regular illness and was a much bigger event than currently given credit in current history. This was a dramatic
change in what people had experienced in their history and lives and our history seems to have been directly altered as a result. St Cyprian remarks
directly at one point in his writings about how they were experiencing death at un-heard of levels. He also mentions what we have to assume are
examples of the symptoms themselves.
14. This trial, that now the bowels, relaxed into a constant flux, discharge the bodily strength; that a fire originated in the marrow ferments
into wounds of the fauces; that the intestines are shaken with a continual vomiting; that the eyes are on fire with the injected blood; that in some
cases the feet or some parts of the limbs are taken off by the contagion of diseased putrefaction; that from the weakness arising by the maiming and
loss of the body, either the gait is enfeebled, or the hearing is obstructed, or the sight darkened —
Even the neurological issues implied could be a result of coronavirus. There doesn't seem to be any other currently known pathogem that accounts for
all of these symptoms, very similarly to what stuck out to some researchers early into the covid19 in relation to 1800s.
Given what we do know, all of these symptoms are possible in a coronavirus. In my opinion the commrnt about the eyes, contrary to what has been
assumed previously, references conjunctivitus and not literal bleeding from the eyes. Though because of the way the current circulating virus affects
both hemoglobin and ability to make platelets and clot...its not unreasonable in a hypothetical to suggest spontaneous bleeding could occur either
way. We also have several accounts both from the 3rd Century aswell as the 1889 Flu that mention the fatigue, loss of limbs, and long lasting
Currently covid can cause circulation issues (IE Covid toes etc). At the time, they wouldnt havr even attempted to treat a circulation issue or known
thats what was happening. Germ theory didnt exist in the 3rd century. So likely the exact same symptom we see present now, untreated could absolutely
lead to ulcers and limbs being amputated.
So I do think its at least a strong possibility that the 3rd Century Cyprian Plague, much like the 1889 Russian Flu is now being suggested, and were
both caused by successive waves of a rapidly mutating coronavirus that worked its way through the population several times over a period of 5-10 years
in both cases. At its height reports are that 5,000 people a day were dying in rome. further comparing of the two periods alongside the current
pandemic could give us a basline expectation of the immediate future in relation to SARScov2.
This is not to say that.i believe the world is ending or am trying to fearmonger. To the contrary i think it could be an advantage, and a shift
in.longterm thinking over shortterm. Is this just 1 more hump to get over or are we at the beginning of what could be just another of our planets
recurring cycles? Is the risk of that type of population loss worth risking for a "herd immunity" which is what happened in the long run, but at what
loss? Not to make this into a vaccine debate , just a possible reference into a bigger picture. Will it be more like 1889 or more like 250AD, OR a
Just thought it was interesting to ponder
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