Verdict GUILTY

a reply to: Themaskedbeast

Should've just kept pumping the trigger on their harmless EMD taser

No damage and no physical contact needed

9 mins of 50k volts will make them cooperative

Still a shame/sham what the state did to him (the LEO)

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

That's called restraining. Did you watch Floyd fight with them and overtake two while handcuffed and worm his way out of the back of the police car? Did you watch the trial? Chauvin never cussed him, never said anything derogatory to him, he wasn't there to kill Floyd. All four police bodycams were played in full from the time each cop got out of the car until the ambulance got there. If Chauvin wanted Floyd dead, he never would have radioed for EMS three minutes into the confrontation and called it, I believe, a code 3 because Floyd's behavior was similar to someone overdosing. They even asked him what drugs he was on.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: matafuchs

The fact that the jury find him guilty of murder means the prosecution did prove use of excessive force. You may not believe they did, but the 12 people on that jury did.

That's aggravated manslaughter, not murder 2 or murder 3.

Are you suddenly a lawyer now?

Do you suddenly need to be a lawyer to comprehend the definitions of the law?

originally posted by: MayRenee
Odd, What I saw was a POS not only murder a man, but did it with lust and pleasure. He was even holding his dick in his hand as he did it.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Interesting how a court case verdict discussion turned to elephant and donkey....or maybe not?

Of course it did. "Top" democrats came out and said words that they knew would frighten the jury. Anyone who watched the entire trial could see that Chauvin had no intent to kill Floyd (who was proven to die of an overdose BTW), so the murder 2 & 3 charges were totally bogus. Involuntary manslaughter should have been the charge, if anything, but not murder at any level.

On the bright side, since the children got what they wanted, we can now watch cities burn in the name Daunte Wright until Kim Potter is charged with 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Degree Murder.

I'm not at all surprised that that's what you saw.

How was the jury coerced into giving a guilty verdict?

originally posted by: Themaskedbeast
a reply to: Lucidparadox
Clearly you weren't paying attention. They tried putting him in the car he fought and kicked and screamed he was claustrophobic. Ford then asked to be put on the ground.

When they got him back out of the car he tried to kick one of the officers.

That's how floyd ended up in that situation.

He was non compliant on all orders the police gave they held him down until the paramedics arrived like they were supposed to.

Floyd was a danger to himself and everyone else they had no choice but to hold him there.

Exactly right.

Somebody watched the trial.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Bunch
This is not or at least it should not be a Republican/Democrat issue... it is a societal/civil rights issue. Is people that believe that a certain segment of the population is beyond reproach and should never ever be held accountable that are the problem. The idolization of militaristic/police enforcement in this country is something that baffles me.

We should held our police to the highest of standards, they should be absolute transparency and accountability for every action the police take agains a citizen. Every interaction, every stop, every traffic stop, every action that culminates in use of force of any kind should be subjected to the highest of scrutiny.

Our rights should be protected, all of our rights, don’t matter where your political ideology is.

What's your suggestion the next time a criminal resists police, should they just let him go? Democrats 100% politicized this trial and they've set a very bad precedent because now anytime they want something, they'll let their pet group destroy whatever they want to until they get their way. When you tell a child no and that child throws a fit over and over and over until you give in and give the child what they want, you set a precedent that tells them they can throw a fit anytime they want something.

I mean, dude, come on, these people put a severed pig's head on a stake in the front yard of the house in which they thought one of the witnesses lived, and smeared the pig's blood all over the house. This is the same sh*t the KKK did with their burning crosses and suddenly it's all fine and dandy. It's no coincidence, either, that these violent groups are always groups controlled by democrats.

So, in your mind, there nothing in between, letting him go vs kneeling on a dude in medical distress till dead..jeezus h

originally posted by: olaru12
How was the jury coerced into giving a guilty verdict?

The same way blacks avoided white areas back when the democrats had the KKK burning crosses in front yards of the people they aimed to threaten and intimidate.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: olaru12
How was the jury coerced into giving a guilty verdict?

The same way blacks avoided white areas back when the democrats had the KKK burning crosses in front yards of the people they aimed to threaten and intimidate.

I missed the part where they planted a burning cross in front of the courthouse.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: matafuchs

The fact that the jury find him guilty of murder means the prosecution did prove use of excessive force. You may not believe they did, but the 12 people on that jury did.

That's aggravated manslaughter, not murder 2 or murder 3.

Are you suddenly a lawyer now?

Do you suddenly need to be a lawyer to comprehend the definitions of the law?

I mean, it's literally a licensed profession, so yes.

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Bunch
This is not or at least it should not be a Republican/Democrat issue... it is a societal/civil rights issue. Is people that believe that a certain segment of the population is beyond reproach and should never ever be held accountable that are the problem. The idolization of militaristic/police enforcement in this country is something that baffles me.

We should held our police to the highest of standards, they should be absolute transparency and accountability for every action the police take agains a citizen. Every interaction, every stop, every traffic stop, every action that culminates in use of force of any kind should be subjected to the highest of scrutiny.

Our rights should be protected, all of our rights, don’t matter where your political ideology is.

What's your suggestion the next time a criminal resists police, should they just let him go? Democrats 100% politicized this trial and they've set a very bad precedent because now anytime they want something, they'll let their pet group destroy whatever they want to until they get their way. When you tell a child no and that child throws a fit over and over and over until you give in and give the child what they want, you set a precedent that tells them they can throw a fit anytime they want something.

I mean, dude, come on, these people put a severed pig's head on a stake in the front yard of the house in which they thought one of the witnesses lived, and smeared the pig's blood all over the house. This is the same sh*t the KKK did with their burning crosses and suddenly it's all fine and dandy. It's no coincidence, either, that these violent groups are always groups controlled by democrats.

So, in your mind, there nothing in between, letting him go vs kneeling on a dude in medical distress till dead..jeezus h

You're putting words in my mouth. Chauvin could have been charged with aggravated manslaughter because that's what this was. It was not intent to kill, which is what murder 2 and murder 3 are. If you let people bully you into overcharging someone you don't like, it sets a very dangerous precedent for the future.

Alas, overdosing in police restraint does not constitute murder. Floyd could have avoided all of this had he simply gotten in the damn car.

a reply to: matafuchs

Well we were all Constitutional Law experts the last few months also...

Ever cross your mind, that you are just wrong?

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: olaru12
How was the jury coerced into giving a guilty verdict?

The same way blacks avoided white areas back when the democrats had the KKK burning crosses in front yards of the people they aimed to threaten and intimidate.

I missed the part where they planted a burning cross in front of the courthouse.

Did you miss the part where the severed pig head was planted in front of the house of one of the witnesses?

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: matafuchs

The fact that the jury find him guilty of murder means the prosecution did prove use of excessive force. You may not believe they did, but the 12 people on that jury did.

A jury of his peers..thats important, so yes, the right wing contingent on ATS are sad..I guess they don't represent the majority..maybe they think they do?

a reply to: LSU2018
I never put words in you mouth..you said it! This is what you said!

What's your suggestion the next time a criminal resists police, should they just let him go?

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Guilty
Guilty
Guilty


Hopefully Minnesota does not burn

On the flip side, as Minneapolis burns tonight people *may* realize that appeasing the mob does nothing and future jurors will be smart enough to rule cases on evidence rather than threats of violence and crap that's going to happen regardless...

Your comments appear to be premature. No riots, only celebrations.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: olaru12
How was the jury coerced into giving a guilty verdict?

The same way blacks avoided white areas back when the democrats had the KKK burning crosses in front yards of the people they aimed to threaten and intimidate.

I missed the part where they planted a burning cross in front of the courthouse.

Did you miss the part where the severed pig head was planted in front of the house of one of the witnesses?

Is that supposed to be proof that the jury was compromised and the court should keep shuffling the deck until they get a winning hand and declare Chauvin innocent of all charges?

originally posted by: Vector99

There is a clear point that he becomes completely unresponsive, yet they kept restraining him. It was excessive force.

It was clear to you, but not to them as they were also monitoring an angry crowd. So once again his technic didn't kill him, but yes he could have checked earlier...We are not talking 10 mins, more like 2 in when one of the cops said he passed out, so it was really that 2 mins that he most likely should have gotten off him, but not because of the technic, but because he should have been more involved with his health status at that point, and so manslaughter could be seen, but man, armchair quarterbacking is easy, but no so much in real time in a very fluid situation. We also need to recognize that Floyd caused 99% of his death...

How about the EMS that didn't start resuscitation until he was loaded and put in the ambulance. What would have been the case if they started it right away? How many extra mins was that? Maybe they should be put up on charges too. What do you think?

Thank God racism was defeated.

a reply to: LSU2018

I've already supplied the pertinent Minnesota statutes. The fact that Chauvin kept his knee on Floyd's neck for several minutes after Floyd lost consciousness demonstrates "a depraved mind, without regard for human life." That makes him guilty of at least murder 3.

originally posted by: Lysergic
Thank God racism was defeated.

Racism was a strong undertone in this proceeding, but the actual moral of the trial was holding the police force accountable for their violent unethical practices. Chauvin has set a precedent that serves as a cautionary tale for the LEO of America.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Just finished watching the morning news, CNN is having a party. While over on FOX the sad pandas there are using the ATS talking points about the jury, or is it the other way around...

Do you think it was a just decision?