A Dire Warning About The Vaccine For Seniors

Elderly get vaccine.
Super spreader possibly with variant involved.

There was a video in another thread in which a researcher suggests the possibility that a variant of covid-19 could cause a cytokine storm in those vacinated with mrna. Because the mrna makes covid-19 signature part of one's body, an immune defense to a variant of covid-19, could also cause an attack on the persons own organs.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

It takes up to 3 weeks for the vaccine to start providing some immunity

No the vaccine makers themselves say it doesn’t provide immunity, you can still catch and spread the virus after having the vaccine. All it does is lower the symptoms.

Sure, it doesn’t give you full immunity, but it does provide some. If you are infected you may not experience any symptoms, very mild symptoms, mild symptoms or severe symptoms. In some instances, I suspect some people will die from the virus, despite having the vaccine.

No vaccine provides 100% protection, it merely assists your immune system to identify it, remember how to get rid of it, and go about what it is designed to do.

Weird you just described my natural immune system. So why should I take this manmade auto immune disease again if I get all the advantages from mother nature, without my body constantly churning out enemy particles?

originally posted by: Hecate666

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

It takes up to 3 weeks for the vaccine to start providing some immunity

No the vaccine makers themselves say it doesn’t provide immunity, you can still catch and spread the virus after having the vaccine. All it does is lower the symptoms.

Sure, it doesn’t give you full immunity, but it does provide some. If you are infected you may not experience any symptoms, very mild symptoms, mild symptoms or severe symptoms. In some instances, I suspect some people will die from the virus, despite having the vaccine.

No vaccine provides 100% protection, it merely assists your immune system to identify it, remember how to get rid of it, and go about what it is designed to do.

Weird you just described my natural immune system. So why should I take this manmade auto immune disease again if I get all the advantages from mother nature, without my body constantly churning out enemy particles?

Again, I’m not promoting it, it’s up to every single critical thinker to decide what they want to do.

I didn’t just describe your natural immune system. I described how your immune system would act if you have received the vaccine. It remembers how to attack the protein if you have had the vaccine. It gives the virus no chance of lodging and multiplying like it likes to do.

Everyone wants to attack, never really listening. I was like you once upon a time, but you get older, wiser, and it’s all B.S in the end. 😂😂😂

If this Vaccine is just a huge immunity booster, couldn't we all take a cocktail of natural immunity boosters?
Wouldn't that just be safer? I know there is cost involved, but for those of that can afford it, why not?

Top 7 Examples Include:

MICRONIZED MUSHROOMS

COLD FX

OREGANO-8

ECHINAMIDE

MODIMMUNE

ELDERBERRY

QUERCETIN

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

History may not look-back fondly on us, for what we are allowing to happen to our Golden-Agers.

Wrinkled dear old guinea-pigs, locked in their apartments with nothing to do but watch 24/7 fearmongering on TV, and then served up for medical experiments by psychopaths.

My soul does not rest easy...

OMG, I'm SOOOOO glad you posted this. Our local senior care facility which was locked down completely for months and months except for employees, finally opened to let family members visit in a room where there was 8 feet in between the resident and a family member about 3 months ago. No incidents of Covid 19 of ANY residents over the past year since it was originally locked down. Two weeks ago, the residents received the vaccine. Suddenly, 14 residents have "contracted" Covid 19 after receiving the vaccine. All the residents are scheduled to receive the second dose here soon, no matter what. When I heard about it earlier this week, I absolutely couldn't believe. I am just aghast at this news.

originally posted by: StoutBroux
OMG, I'm SOOOOO glad you posted this. Our local senior care facility which was locked down completely for months and months except for employees, finally opened to let family members visit in a room where there was 8 feet in between the resident and a family member about 3 months ago. No incidents of Covid 19 of ANY residents over the past year since it was originally locked down. Two weeks ago, the residents received the vaccine. Suddenly, 14 residents have "contracted" Covid 19 after receiving the vaccine. All the residents are scheduled to receive the second dose here soon, no matter what. When I heard about it earlier this week, I absolutely couldn't believe. I am just aghast at this news.

Tell People then, at Church at the Store.....tell People everywhere its Humanities only hope....talk....share ....win.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

It provides *no* immunity, as said it provides *weakened* symptoms... but you can still be a spreader ...

So it just makes more asymptotic people, that still pass it on ...

It’s nonsense.

If people ever take a deep breath ... and realize this whole pandemic was a World Government Psyop ... they're gonna literally tear their elected officials to pieces.

Yeah, like the Spanish flu, like SARS, like the bubonic plague.

But those killed everyone equally. COVID doesn't

COVID mainly kills Senior useless eaters that cost governments lots of money in retirement benefits and care.
Next it kills chronically ill useless eaters that eat up government money and contribute little to nothing in taxes.
Finally the darker your skin the more likely you are to die of COVID. Asians and Caucasions die at the lowest rate of all from COIVD.
There are outliers that are collateral damage, but those are rare and acceptable collateral damage to those who created the virus specifically to get rid of people who use government resources and return nothing in taxes, what socialists and communists call useless eaters.

The Spanish flu didn’t initially, it mainly effected the elderly and vulnerable, and there were many, many vulnerable folk back then.

When the second and third wave hit, it then disproportionately effected younger people, particularly young men.

I doubt much data was collated regarding the various ethnic groups at the time, but Covid-19 appears to effect ethnic groups more disproportionately, according to data.

I have read that the "second wave" of the Spanish flu could have been due to overuse of aspirin, a new drug at the time and the negative side effects were not well known. It was heavily used in the military and overuse of aspirin gives the same symptoms reported in the second wave, which had very dissimilar symptoms from the first wave and like you said affected different age groups, but the article suggested that the military were at the front lines of using experimental new drugs like aspirin, so would explain the younger victims and why it appeared to affect the military men specifically.

originally posted by: Hecate666

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

It takes up to 3 weeks for the vaccine to start providing some immunity

No the vaccine makers themselves say it doesn’t provide immunity, you can still catch and spread the virus after having the vaccine. All it does is lower the symptoms.

Sure, it doesn’t give you full immunity, but it does provide some. If you are infected you may not experience any symptoms, very mild symptoms, mild symptoms or severe symptoms. In some instances, I suspect some people will die from the virus, despite having the vaccine.

No vaccine provides 100% protection, it merely assists your immune system to identify it, remember how to get rid of it, and go about what it is designed to do.

Weird you just described my natural immune system. So why should I take this manmade auto immune disease again if I get all the advantages from mother nature, without my body constantly churning out enemy particles?

How long does the RNA actually last? Does it "time out" after a while or is there a chance it could continue creating spike proteins throughout your body for a long time? That worries me greatly and IIRC similar animal studies on mRNA vaccines in the past found disease particles active in the monkeys intestines over a year after vaccination.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
If this Vaccine is just a huge immunity booster, couldn't we all take a cocktail of natural immunity boosters?
Wouldn't that just be safer? I know there is cost involved, but for those of that can afford it, why not?

Well no. While those things *might* boost or provide more energy to your body’s immune system (the medical evidence for things like VitC are still not conclusive), they don’t give your immune system the ABILITY to recognise new foreign invaders.

Like putting super powerful petrol in your car when going up a muddy hill. Sure, your wheels will spin faster and for longer — but you’re not getting up the hill. What you need are better tyres with spikes or chains, not more speed.

The vaccine helps your immune system by providing a safe, inert version of the virus so it can learn, adapt and create the antibodies without you getting sick.

I’m not saying those natural ingredients WON’T help you— I believe they do and i take them myself for health benefits.

But taking VitC, D, elderberry, etc — I haven’t seen conclusive medical evidence they cure or event categorically prevent Covid. I think right now its circumstantial evidence for that.

originally posted by: noonebutme

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
If this Vaccine is just a huge immunity booster, couldn't we all take a cocktail of natural immunity boosters?
Wouldn't that just be safer? I know there is cost involved, but for those of that can afford it, why not?

Well no. While those things *might* boost or provide more energy to your body’s immune system (the medical evidence for things like VitC are still not conclusive), they don’t give your immune system the ABILITY to recognise new foreign invaders.

Like putting super powerful petrol in your car when going up a muddy hill. Sure, your wheels will spin faster and for longer — but you’re not getting up the hill. What you need are better tyres with spikes or chains, not more speed.

The vaccine helps your immune system by providing a safe, inert version of the virus so it can learn, adapt and create the antibodies without you getting sick.

I’m not saying those natural ingredients WON’T help you— I believe they do and i take them myself for health benefits.

But taking VitC, D, elderberry, etc — I haven’t seen conclusive medical evidence they cure or event categorically prevent Covid. I think right now its circumstantial evidence for that.

I havent seen any believable conclusive medical evidence Pharma-based medicines cure or categorically prevent any diseases at all

Many good People dont trust the olde party-line.

a reply to: one4all
Exactly. I haven’t seen any conclusive evidence that natural remedies are useful against Covid either.

Only the empirical scientific data from the vaccinations have proven effective results against preventing illness and wiping them out, like small pox, polio, etc. And only when idiot anti vaxxers stop taking them, we see things like the measles come back as it did in parts of the US.

Glad we agree on this!

Well I know of instances where people consumed copious amounts of onions during the Spanish flu, and it helped them survive it, what is in onions that helps, QUERCETIN.

originally posted by: StoutBroux
OMG, I'm SOOOOO glad you posted this. Our local senior care facility which was locked down completely for months and months except for employees, finally opened to let family members visit in a room where there was 8 feet in between the resident and a family member about 3 months ago. No incidents of Covid 19 of ANY residents over the past year since it was originally locked down. Two weeks ago, the residents received the vaccine. Suddenly, 14 residents have "contracted" Covid 19 after receiving the vaccine. All the residents are scheduled to receive the second dose here soon, no matter what. When I heard about it earlier this week, I absolutely couldn't believe. I am just aghast at this news.

Did a friend of a friend tell you that?

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

This is something I worry about.

I care about my residents greatly.

I see how some of them are eager to take the vaccine.


My heart is being torn apart.

I wouldn't dare take away the hope I see in their eyes.

But I dread the day where I might discover their lifeless body, where they once were so full of life.


One can die peacefully or suddenly; When Death comes, none can avoid her.

But to inflict death upon your citizens in the guise of a medicinal solution is abhorrent.

Whether it be as a result of carelessness or with purposeful intent, this 'Vaccine' must be questioned.


EDIT:

These accounts come to mind on this issue:

Covid-19 mRNA injection victims

originally posted by: nonspecific
I know plenty of people who have had the vaccine and suffered no I'll effects, in fact I've not heard of anyone have more than a mild dizziness that went after a day or so.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Same. Live in a village where most people are over 60. The majority of the village have had 1st or 2nd injection plus have carers myself who've had the vaccine and work in care homes plus plenty of mates who are Drs who have first hand knowlege and alerts for any such claims for a few thousand.

Not heard of anything more than a sore arm and mild headache (a mate who has just finished chemo). Oxford is reportted to have more side effects than the others but still only lethargic for a couple of days. There have been no Covid outbreaks as a result of vaccination in the UK or any mention of the elderly or high-risk groups getting ill post-vaccination. If the random guy off youtube isn't lying it sounds more like a fault in the process of administering it in that area of the US, or a care home staff member being the cause of the outbreak as it's not witnessed anywhere else.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
If this Vaccine is just a huge immunity booster, couldn't we all take a cocktail of natural immunity boosters?
Wouldn't that just be safer? I know there is cost involved, but for those of that can afford it, why not?

Top 7 Examples Include:

MICRONIZED MUSHROOMS

COLD FX

OREGANO-8

ECHINAMIDE

MODIMMUNE

ELDERBERRY

QUERCETIN

I would add Vitamins B, C, D, zinc and selenium + some of what you are doing. Ivermectin if symptoms.
c19ivermectin.com...
covid19criticalcare.com...


Lots of reactions here - prezi.com...

Several perfectly healthy people taking an experimental vaccine, let other people beta test this mess.

After the vaccine is injected, wirelesslyz the powers that be can choose what they want to do with you.

The injection is a microscopic nano tech

There's no telling the effects this gene therapy will have on humans years down the road and that's a fact. If you can live with that, go right on ahead and get your jab.

Whaaat?

This site is becoming an utter laughing stock.

I'm off for a while in the hope that sanity may return one day.