Were there 2 stories of Creation in Genesis?

a reply to: neoholographic

God created only one thing and the earth formed all living things.... That is described in Genesis chapter 1.

God did say: Let the earth bring forth all living things.... God did not create life, earth did.

What did God actually create in Genesis chapter 1..?

God created the firmament. The firmament was given all the properties to form life as our written history describes it.

Today we use the knowledge of evolution/time to describe our history. Our scientists and historians always use time to describe the evolution of space, earth and life. And so does Genesis chapter 1. Seven days are drescribed in Genesis chapter 1.

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What does not fit into our history and our scientific knowlegde is Lord Gods work.

- Lord God formed adam from the dust on the ground. There is no scientific proff of this being possible.

- Lord God put Adam to sleep so that he could plant a garden to the east of Eden.

We have no scientific knowledge of where Eden is. We have no scientific knowledge of what east of Eden is... The garden Lord God planed where he put Adam was to the east of Eden (Adam was never put into the garden of Eden, but in a new garden planted to the east of Eden).... There are no tree of life, there is no tree of knowledge on earth. There is nothing.... to Show for this being on earth.

- At the east of the Garden Lord God placed a flaming sword which turned every way. There are no evidence of this being real on earth. There are no flaming swords on earth.....

Why were the flaming swords just placed at the east end of the Garden..? Does Lord God see a threat from the west...?
What does Lord God want to protect the garden he planted east of Eden from..?

According to youre faith and knowledge. Lord God should have nothing to fear since Adam and Eve were the only once.......




So if there are two different creations mentioned by the books there are two of them. One described in Genesis chapter 1 and the other described from Genesis chapter 2 and 3.

a reply to: glend

If people are going to try comprehend Genesis literally then you have to get around made in Gods image. Which would dictate that God like Adam, needs oxygen to breath, which obviously wouldn't have been around before creation. God like adam would have limited lifespan; God like Adam needs Warmth, food etc etc etc.

According to Ezra 4 which is written by Ezra the scribe and is a Hebrew accepted work, it is explained exactly what image is meant. The two books are known as Cepher Adam v'Chuah Ri'shon and the Cepher Adam v Chuah Sheny. Within this work is told that Adam was formed from created substance of which is not the same as we have today. Earth of that time was pure and all was good. Adam was not created as a mortal but was created as a light being with no flesh or blood as we have today. He ate only from his garden and all that he ate was ingested in the body. His body did not defecate as we do today.

The earth was cursed and Adam was expelled from the garden into the cursed earth. This is when his body was also cursed because he was taken from the earth. His outer covering of Shekinah was taken from him and he was then given 7 coats of skin to cover his body. [Note- people today have 7 layers of skin].

1Corinthians 15:44-50
44 - It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 - And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 - Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 - The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 - As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 - And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 - Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

As you can see, the NT also agrees with Ezra. From this point onward all of the descendants of Adam were pro created with the new body of which we are today. While it is true that man [Adam] was created in the light bearing image of the Creator, that was lost to his procreated descendants of which we are today. But ---- in the resurrection that new spiritual body that we lost will be restored and it will be restored in the same identification that we are born with.

It is commonly taught today all of the human race is considered to be in God's image but according to both Moses and Ezra that is not true. The human race is procreated from the corrupted Adam who was not of the original image he was created. I do not expect most people to even consider this of which I have posted but it is the teachings of the first century James who is the brother of Jesus.

a reply to: Seede

Thank you for sharing.

I very much enjoy reading your words.

You seem to know much, and stand by what you say.


^_^

a reply to: spy66

We have no scientific knowledge of where Eden is. We have no scientific knowledge of what east of Eden is... The garden Lord God planed where he put Adam was to the east of Eden (Adam was never put into the garden of Eden, but in a new garden planted to the east of Eden).... There are no tree of life, there is no tree of knowledge on earth. There is nothing.... to Show for this being on earth.

The KJV bible says that ----Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden;
and there he put the man whom he had formed.

Adam V’ Chuah Ri’shon tells us that -
Quote - On the third day Elohiym planted the garden in the East of the earth, on the border of
the world eastward , beyond which , towards the sun rising, one finds nothing but water , that
encompasses the whole world, and reaches to the borders of heaven. And to the north of the garden
there is a sea of water, clear and pure to the taste unlike anything else; so that, through the
clearness thereof, one may look into the depths of the earth.
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Now Ezra is writing this in a manner of description as well as facts. In biblical theology we both understand that Adam did not exist as the garden was planted and there was no direction called East because the sun had not as yet been placed in the heaven. We also understand that the entire earth was one great land mass and that the unsalted sea was pure uncontaminated fresh water. Ezra is writing this such as to give his people understanding. The same can be understood as Ezra saying that the great body of water reaches the border of heaven. As one stands upon the shore of the ocean and looks out to sea it appears as though the water and the heaven blend together.

But the facts can also be brought out such as the earth was but one body of land and the water was one body of sea. But the Creator planted His garden in the direction we now call east of the earth which existed in that era. Since that time the earth has changed a great deal. In the days of creation when the firmament was created, the Creator separated the water from the water and left the great sea on the earth and a canopy of water above the world. The world was literally engulfed in water till the flood of Noah.

That is when the canopy of water rained upon this earth for forty days and nights. That broke the mantles of this earth with unimaginable weight and enlarged this world by and estimated fifty percent. It divided the great sea into tributaries, of rivers, lakes, streams, and mighty oceans of islands. It brought the salt and brim and minerals from the earth into the waters. It slowed the revolution of this earth from a four hour day to a twenty four hour day. It caused the moon to change its gravity upon this world and distance itself from its original, place. It opened the heavens to Noah and changed the science of a closed environment to an open environment. It brought disease and great changes to all creatures.

(Two Stories of Creation in Genesis) ?

Day 1

God Said "Light from Light" (Gen1:3)//////////God Said "Light removed from Dark" (Gen1:4)

Day 2

God Said "Waters from Waters" (Gen1:6)///////////God Said "Water Above, divided, from Waters Below" (Gen1:7)

Day 3

God Said "Seed of Tree, is in itself" (Gen1:11-12) /////////// God Said "Seed of Grass after its kind" (Gen1:11-12)

Day 4

God Said "Lights in the Veil of Heaven" (Gen1:14-15)////////God Said "Lights upon the Earth" (Gen1:16-17)

Day 5

God Said "Whales from heaven" (Gen1:21)/////////God Said "Life from Water"(Gen1:20)

Day 6

God Said "To his Image Only, Replenish the Earth"(Gen1:28)////////God Said "To the Beast Only, Multiply after the Order of the Earth"
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The Written Law was incomplete, at the time the Jewish people originally instructed babylon to kill and destroy david's temple...........recorded in Isaiah 37:35-38............only euthanasia took place and they were driven out.................the written law is completed, and its not god's responsibility to introduce a mental and functional illness to the salvation that largely concerns individuals not all of humanity.

God's mercies are principally off world and this will be resolved soon, humanity has only the opportunity to be faithful, or to be shut up while it pleasures itself with suffering and death.
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Humanity is allowed suicide pleasure with the son of man and that is a basis of judgment for a specific season................there are generally two measurements, one for the son of man, and one for isreal the faithful..........the earth specifically may not receive a judgment, that is why the book of revelation says the word "silence" often...............

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Coronavirus should develop into rabies soon, that is the projection, once the testimony of the son of man is resolved, those genetic lines will largely die from that and many persons. (that is humanities portion, and for those genetic lines, however, many many people will benefit regardless of that, as long as they pass away a certain way, there won't be a problem, they can just do that until humanity passes away with them, they passive nature to humanities suicide pleasure, is the new testament trend, and its also true today)

a reply to: neoholographic

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image

Us?

Does God have a mouse in his pocket or something?

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Day 6

God Said, "Man and Women in his Image"//////////God Said, "Beast after the Image of the Earth"

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God talks about the "144000 having his Father's Image/Name in Revelation"////////God Talks about "Image of Beast like Man 666"

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Humanity does suicide pleasure, that is its preference, its not after the image of god, so it is like a beast, Revelation 13 where we see, "mark of the beast", we see also, "blasphemy"
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God called the "Whale Holy and Created after Him in Genesis", God is speaking to an individual in Revelation 13, the "wisdom of god, mark of beast is a man"..............when God addresses the Argument to Humanity, its an unclean statement//"dead flesh accusation of those genetic lines suppressing the earth's unified field, noah's rainbow", humanity is in disposition...............God presented a completed law to a few individuals, "Ensign of Nations according to Isaiah", or sons of man under joseph, generally the new testament era.

Day 6

God Said, "Created after his Image is Holy"//////////God Said, "Created after the Image of the Earth is Unholy"

(God called for the Genocide of the "ites" in Joshua 12:8..........and God calls for the Genocide of the tribes/genetic lines removed from the book of life which is revelation............Joseph achieves a unified field value in revelation) (God doesn't require, humanity to remove its accusation of dead flesh, humanity will suffer considerable in its pleasure before it dies.........God's mercies go forth, people benefit, that is not a white washing of sin, they are excluded and the issue is just furnished a little more to the people.........and individuals are saved regardless, mankind as a generation may still not be used in the new universe) (humanity is deceased in about 40 years, everything to be resolved soon)

(There's no Controversy, no Ultimatum, no Obligation to humanity for a direct and indiscriminate answer................So many people will have to die, or, the Son of Man will arrive at a quota on the country level of those places of interest, until they don't have favor, they will just suffer and die there, and suffering on earth will increase, or there has to be much more cooperation...............the Gospel never reached to all places of the earth at any point in time, mankind was created holy, and it has the freewill to enjoy its suicide pleasure, that is also an accusation with god...........that is not a law of entitlement, the minority situation/dead flesh situation/ or secularism situation, has no value with the son of man in god's mercies, those controversies and those people have no value, it doesn't mean genocide is a specific agenda, it means there is a place for god's mercies, and to address the people, and the earth and its accusation has to answer god, that is not the role of the son of man, in suicide pleasure) (and as a false witness all of this will be resolved soon)

(with Jeremiah, God simply said those people will suffer and die in suicide, in "pain for pain", until that generation is dead..........that happened also with micah, with hezekiah, nobody really observed anything, but everyone knew they were sentenced to death............today everything will be resolved soon...........with such a small period of time, the son of man could just wait or hibernate until humanity is dead, we'll have to see very soon)

originally posted by: Riffrafter
a reply to: neoholographic

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image

Us?

Does God have a mouse in his pocket or something?

Unless he was talking to himself.

a reply to: Seede

Ok. You have some answers, i dont agree to them.... How would you answer this verse: Genesis chapter 3 verse 24.

So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Where are these flaming swords that protect the garden..? And why is the garden only protected from the east..?
Who is Lord God affraid of who lives to the east..?

God created all that was good that is stated in all of Genesis Chapter 1. But that is not the case in chapter three verse 1. If God created all that was good. That means that the serpent is good as well...right..? But we dont argue that the serpent is good at all... In scripture the serpent is described as evil.

So if God created all theat was good. Then who is this Lord God who created the serpent..? Who is not good at all. The serpent even speaks against Gods commands.

We also preach that both Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden east of eden. But that is not what verse 23 and 24 state in genesis chapter three.

These verses specifically state that only Adam was cast out. Only Adam was formed from the dust on the ground Eve was not. Feminism diden't exist at that time så He and Him does not include Eve. Eve is a female. A women. Not He or him. As verse 23 and 24 state.

There shouldent be any doubt that God and Lord God are two different Gods.... We have one god that creates and we have one that plants and formes.

- In genesis chapter 1. God said: Lets create man in "our"image as male and female.... I bet Adam and Eve knew Lord God because Lord God looked like a man when he walked in the garden east of Eden. Lord God did not appear in the garden as a burning bush or as a bright light. Lord God walked...and looked like a man. Even within art we portay angels as having the image of Men. They look just like us. What differ is that they have wings. We dont. And there is a reason why we have done this within art.

God did not create man in the image of him self. But in the image of his angels. And one of them is Lord God.

Who can fool both old and young, big and small but Lord God...? Only a false God will have the skills to fool humanity. Why would any of you defend Lord God...are you all fools..?

Or are you being blocked by the strong word : Faith. You have to have faith. Your faith is what is going to make you take the mark. You are all going to take it, because that is what scripture state. You have a problem don't you becasue what you argue is wrong. You are all wrong. If not this verse would not be written like it is.

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

This means all of you. Not just some. This verse is very specific..

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a reply to: spy66

You have some answers, i dont agree to them.... How would you answer this verse: Genesis chapter 3 verse 24.

Gen.3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Where are these flaming swords that protect the garden..? And why is the garden only protected from the east..?
Who is Lord God affraid of who lives to the east..?

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There was only one entrance to Eden and that entrance was from the eastward gate. At the gate were Cherubims of unknown number who either had or were accompanied by a flaming sword of the Creator. The garden was only protected after the curse which was put upon the earth. Prior to the curse of earth, the earth was good and that infers that the creation was all good. The serpent was cursed first. Eve was cursed secondly. Adam was cursed last. Eve was cursed to be ruled by Adam. Adam was cursed with the curse of contaminated earth. But it actually goes deeper than this. This curse of earth was the reason why we must die. All of this universe is of earth and this curse applies to all earth. If you remember God told Adam that if he ate of the tree of knowledge to do evil that he would die? Well Adam did eat of that tree and Adam is made of earth. If Adam is of earth and must die then all earth must die. As Adam ate of this tree and the earth was cursed then all was no longer good. Prior to the curse of Adam was the curse given to Eve. That curse was that Eve was to be ruled by Adam and that includes all punishments that Adam received were also applied to his wife.

No humanoid lived upon this planet at this time but there were the fallen ones of the first creation who were called kings from heaven who were cast out of the first creation which we now call heaven. These kings were not human but were as the angelic creation. We do have several clay cuneiforms tablets which give us the names and lengths of time that these kings ruled themselves before Adam and during the creation of Adam. [The source for the above information is called the Sumerian King List and is a very interesting study]
The Kings of heaven had no influence on the earth to pollute the earth. They were light bearing creatures the same as Adam was a light bearing creation. Adam was placed in the Gan Eden for his own protection from the fallen ones from heaven.

Yes the serpent was good at one time before he/she was infilled with the same spirit that the fallen ones had received.

[Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

]It was after the serpent became indoctrinated by the fallen ones that Eve became influenced by the spirit of evil. The difference being that Eve /Adam were not contentious towards the Creator whereas the fallen ones were hate filled towards the Creator.

you stated
There shouldent be any doubt that God and Lord God are two different Gods.... We have one god that creates and we have one that plants and formes.

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There is nothing in the doctrine of Jesus that can explain that belief. In the heavenly creation there is the Spirit God who begat His own image and likeness for our understanding. The Son of God who is called “The Word” is not a creation but is the visibility of the Spirit God to show us Himself as He pleases to show us. [John chapter one]. Lord God and God are a translation of the same meaning possibly by several authors. Moses collected most all of Torah from the Hebrew tribes own records. Torah is the work of many authors including Moses.

you stated
God did not create man in the image of him self. But in the image of his angels. And one of them is Lord God.

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Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

The bible is very clear that Adam was first created in the image of both The Most High El and His Word. [John chapter one]

you stated
God created all that was good that is stated in all of Genesis Chapter 1. But that is not the case in chapter three verse 1. If God created all that was good. That means that the serpent is good as well...right..? But we dont argue that the serpent is good at all... In scripture the serpent is described as evil. So if God created all theat was good. Then who is this Lord God who created the serpent..? Who is not good at all. The serpent even speaks against Gods commands.

We also preach that both Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden east of eden. But that is not what verse 23 and 24 state in genesis chapter three.

These verses specifically state that only Adam was cast out. Only Adam was formed from the dust on the ground Eve was not. Feminism diden't exist at that time så He and Him does not include Eve. Eve is a female. A women. Not He or him. As verse 23 and 24 state.

There shouldent be any doubt that God and Lord God are two different Gods.... We have one god that creates and we have one that plants and formes.

- In genesis chapter 1. God said: Lets create man in "our"image as male and female.... I bet Adam and Eve knew Lord God because Lord God looked like a man when he walked in the garden east of Eden. Lord God did not appear in the garden as a burning bush or as a bright light. Lord God walked...and looked like a man. Even within art we portay angels as having the image of Men. They look just like us. What differ is that they have wings. We dont. And there is a reason why we have done this within art.

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God and His “Word” could not be as a flesh and blood man because flesh and blood is not allowed in the heaven of God. Adam was created in the image and likeness of God which means that Adam could not have had flesh and blood till after he was cursed. That is not to say that God cannot appear to us in many different forms but there is no reason God would appear in His garden as a corrupt man.

a reply to: Seede

There was only one entrance to Eden and that entrance was from the eastward gate.

Realy, is that what you have grasped from what you read...?

You have to loosen the grip on Eden because the garden Lord God planted was to the east of Eden. That makes this religion way different then what you have been told by your preachers....
Eden actually existed before Adam was formed from the dust on the groundt. After Lord God formed Adam from the Dust on the Ground, Lord God had to put Adam to sleep so that he could pland a Garden to the east of Eden. This information is damn important to grasp if you are to grasp the rest of this bull#.......

Side note: Why would Lord God have to prematurely form Adam from the dust on the ground before he had a location to put him in...? Why Did Lord God form Adam from the dust on the ground before he had a place to put adam...? Does that make any sence to you...?

Why does Lord God God have to have Adam on ice until he have planted a garden for him...? Is Lord God a poor planner/creator...?

Don't you ever question youre self that..?


Our book/Bible is made for the common man. This means that you should not have ot be a professor to be able to understand it.

So when you read the text why wont you read the same as i do...? DO you read the same as i do but youre mind forces you to see something else..?

I dont understand where you get youre knowledge from.... Is what you preach youre own words or is it from someone else...?




Why was Lord God in such a hurry..... This does not seam like the God of Genesis chapter 1 to me....

God and His “Word” could not be as a flesh and blood man because flesh and blood is not allowed in the heaven of God. Adam was created in the image and likeness of God which means that Adam could not have had flesh and blood till after he was cursed. That is not to say that God cannot appear to us in many different forms but there is no reason God would appear in His garden as a corrupt man.

This is related to when Jesus was challenged by Satan in the desert after 40 days. Jesus said that my kingdom is not of this world. Adam was never mention by Jesus. Not once did Jesus mention Adam. I wonder why... Was it because Adam was not a creation of God....but Lord God.

So when our bible state that the bride is comming down from the heavens..... You should be on youre best game.... Because its a damn scam.

Only Lord God and the Serpent will have the power to fool humanity. And you are being fooled as we speak.


Lord God formed Adam from the dust on the ground. Lord God planted a Garden east of Eden. Lord God created the Serpent... What more do you people need...?

a reply to: spy66

Eden actually existed before Adam was formed from the dust on the groundt. After Lord God formed Adam from the Dust on the Ground, Lord God had to put Adam to sleep so that he could pland a Garden to the east of Eden. This information is damn important to grasp if you are to grasp the rest of this bull#.......

No, you are mistaken in your understanding. God planted the garden of Eden inside of Eden on the eastward section inside of Eden. God did not plant the garden outside of the territory of Eden.

Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

Side note: Why would Lord God have to prematurely form Adam from the dust on the ground before he had a location to put him in...? Why Did Lord God form Adam from the dust on the ground before he had a place to put adam...? Does that make any sence to you...? Why does Lord God God have to have Adam on ice until he have planted a garden for him...? Is Lord God a poor planner/creator...?

As I have told you in my above posts, God planted the garden in Eden on the third day. Adam was created on the sixth day. By this you can understand that God planted the Gan Eden about three days before He created Adam.

So when you read the text why wont you read the same as i do...? DO you read the same as i do but youre mind forces you to see something else..? I dont understand where you get youre knowledge from.... Is what you preach youre own words or is it from someone else...?

We are discussing Theology and theology is a matter of opinions. In your mind you are right and in my mind I am right. What I write is of my own understanding and yes I probably am wrong on a lot of opinions. I do not plagiarize knowingly and try to combine the bible with accepted scholar understandings. The bible is not very detailed and leads most people to use outside books along with the bible.

a reply to: spy66

Eden actually existed before Adam was formed from the dust on the groundt. After Lord God formed Adam from the Dust on the Ground, Lord God had to put Adam to sleep so that he could pland a Garden to the east of Eden. This information is damn important to grasp if you are to grasp the rest of this bull#.......

No, you are mistaken in your understanding. God planted the garden of Eden inside of Eden on the eastward section inside of Eden. God did not plant the garden outside of the territory of Eden.

Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

Side note: Why would Lord God have to prematurely form Adam from the dust on the ground before he had a location to put him in...? Why Did Lord God form Adam from the dust on the ground before he had a place to put adam...? Does that make any sence to you...? Why does Lord God God have to have Adam on ice until he have planted a garden for him...? Is Lord God a poor planner/creator...?

As I have told you in my above posts, God planted the garden in Eden on the third day. Adam was created on the sixth day. By this you can understand that God planted the Gan Eden about three days before He created Adam.

So when you read the text why wont you read the same as i do...? DO you read the same as i do but youre mind forces you to see something else..? I dont understand where you get youre knowledge from.... Is what you preach youre own words or is it from someone else...?

We are discussing Theology and theology is a matter of opinions. In your mind you are right and in my mind I am right. What I write is of my own understanding and yes I probably am wrong on a lot of opinions. I do not plagiarize knowingly and try to combine the bible with accepted scholar understandings. The bible is not very detailed and leads most people to use outside books along with the bible.

a reply to: Seede

As I have told you in my above posts, God planted the garden in Eden on the third day. Adam was created on the sixth day. By this you can understand that God planted the Gan Eden about three days before He created Adam.

But Adam was not formed on the sixth day. Adam was formed after God rested on the seventh day.

On the sixth day God said:

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And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

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And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

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And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Lets jump to Genesis chapter 2.

In Genesis chapter 2. Adam is formed before all the other beats of the field. And man is not formed as male and female. But only as Adam.

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And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

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And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

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And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

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And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

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And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

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And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

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And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

In genesis chapter 1. Verse 25. Man (male and female) were created after earth had formed all the beast.


Lord God never created Man. Lord God formed Adam from the dust on the ground Genesis chapter 2. God created man as male and female: genesis chapter 1.

On what day was the women made from Adams ribb...?

a reply to: Lumenari

In Genesis 1 the Elohim (Gods) made all things.

It's just Elohim. Not the Elohim. So no plural

a reply to: spy66

But Adam was not formed on the sixth day. Adam was formed after God rested on the seventh day.

No, Adam was created on the sixth day according to the KJV bible in Genesis 1:27 - 31.

a reply to: spy66

Lord God never created Man. Lord God formed Adam from the dust on the ground Genesis chapter 2. God created man as male and female: genesis chapter 1. On what day was the women made from Adams ribb...?

No, God did not form man from His creation of earth but "The Word of God" did. "The Word Of God, who is the visibility of God, created all that is in heaven and earth.

John 1:3 - 4 - All things were made by him; [The Word] and without him [The Word] was not any thing made that was made.
In him [The Word] was life; and the life was the light of men.

Adam was created by the "Word of God" which is the image of God. Then Adam was given the wind of life by the Spirit God which is His likeness. "The Lord" is the begotten Son of God while God is the Spirit of The Most High El. Our Creator is the "Word of God" or our Lord. The "Most High El is the Spirit God and supreme authority in Christianity.

As for when was Eve created from Adam. We read in Genesis 2:20 - 23 and then read that it was on the sixth day after Adam named the animals etc.. Genesis 1:30, 31 -------

Now as to the time in the sixth hour is not known because we do not know the span of time that was in the sixth hour. According to the Kings list it could very well have been many years counted as the sixth day.

a reply to: Seede

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God.

That totally works for me.

a reply to: Seede

No, Adam was created on the sixth day according to the KJV bible in Genesis 1:27 - 31.

No, on the sixth day god created:

27. God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

I asked you on what day was Eve formed from Adams Ribb... ?

Lord God did not create man as Adam and Eve on the sixth day. Lord God "formed" Adam from the dust on the ground.

Lord God dident create anything. Lord God formed.


Verse 31 in genesis chapter one state:

31. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

What Lord God formed was not all very good. Lord God fomed the beast... the serpent. This beast is not even good, but what God created was all very good.

a reply to: Seede

No, God did not form man from His creation of earth but "The Word of God" did. "The Word Of God, who is the visibility of God, created all that is in heaven and earth.

Yes this is related to genesis chapter 1 verse 3. God said let there be light.

Later God said let earth bring forth and then later God said let the sea bring forth.

But when it comes to man. God said: Let us make man in our image. This menas that earth did not form man. The chapter does noe even state that God formed man as Male and Female from the dust on the ground.

According to chapter two Not even Lord God formed Man as male and female from the dust on the ground. Only Adam was made from the dust on the ground. Eve was not. So lord God did not create man as male and female.

Eve was made in Eden from Adams Ribb much later.... She was not formed from the dust on the ground on earth like Adam was. Both Adam and Eve were formed after God rested on the seventh day.


This is a big clue when it comes to who is being cast out of the Garden.