Trump Pardons General Flynn!

originally posted by: xuenchen
That judge will never live it down now 🚬😃

They got "the goods" on judge Emmet Sullivan now.

General Flynn will fill a prominent position in President Trump's second term.

a reply to: projectvxn

Touché

Anyway...sun sets 8 hours ealier here so I'm off to bed.

Peace

a reply to: operation mindcrime

Till the next sparring session then.

Have a good night.

a reply to: jhn7537

Good. That judge was acting the total dick without legal precedence.

Another win for Trump.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Flynn withdrew the plea bargain and showed coercion.

That's why the JD dropped the case.

But the Judge decided to stall without cause.

The lies that will be published now are part of the efforts to silence all Democrat exposures and their own proven lies.

a reply to: xuenchen

Flynn withdrew the plea bargain and showed coercion.

He still has to allocute his guilt, again, for the 3rd time, if he wants that pardon. Pardons are only for guilty people.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Find that law or case law, please.

I'll wait.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: xuenchen

Flynn withdrew the plea bargain and showed coercion.

He still has to allocute his guilt, again, for the 3rd time, if he wants that pardon. Pardons are only for guilty people.

Bullshyst.🤣🤣🚨🚨

President Ford pardoned Nixon when no charges were even filed against Nixon let alone any trials.🤣🤣🚨🚨

Stop being a bullshyster 🤣🤣🚨🚨

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: xuenchen

Flynn withdrew the plea bargain and showed coercion.

He still has to allocute his guilt, again, for the 3rd time, if he wants that pardon. Pardons are only for guilty people.

Post that on Twitter and I bet they allow it to stand without any "fact check" 🤣🤣🚨🚨

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: xuenchen

Flynn withdrew the plea bargain and showed coercion.

He still has to allocute his guilt, again, for the 3rd time, if he wants that pardon. Pardons are only for guilty people.

I always see you and a select others stating things as fact when they arent, and when called out you guy never provide evidence, you either abandon the thread or try and deflect to something else.......its always the same song and dance.

If you guys were boxers wed have your routine down pat......

a reply to: projectvxn

Find that law or case law, please.

Find what? That pardons are for guilty people? Or that his case before Judge Sullivan still has to be resolved to reflect Flynn's guilt?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

The Justice Dept dropped the case 🤣🤣🤣🤣

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: projectvxn

Find that law or case law, please.

Find what? That pardons are for guilty people? Or that his case before Judge Sullivan still has to be resolved to reflect Flynn's guilt?

Also for people wrongly convicted 🤣🤣🤣🤣

originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: projectvxn

He's way more fun when he is drinking...

He also said something about Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79 (1915) blabla delivery and acceptance were essential components of a pardon...

Peace

FROM WIKI down below.

" Ford made reference to the Burdick decision in his post-pardon written statement furnished to the Judiciary Committee of the United States House of Representatives on October 17, 1974.[3] However, the reference related only to the portion of Burdick that supported the proposition that the Constitution does not limit the pardon power to cases of convicted offenders or even indicted offenders.[4]"

Pardons can be given to innocent people as well as the guilty. a Pardon is UNLIMITED for federal offenses. So yes a innocent man can still be innocent when taking a pardon.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Find what?

A citation that illustrates the legitimacy of your legal doctrine.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: projectvxn

Find that law or case law, please.

Find what? That pardons are for guilty people? Or that his case before Judge Sullivan still has to be resolved to reflect Flynn's guilt?

Also for people wrongly convicted 🤣🤣🤣🤣

A pardon does NOT overturn a guilty conviction. It forgives the guilty.

a reply to: projectvxn

Here’s the Supreme Court’s explanation for why a pardon can be refused but immunity cannot be:

This brings us to the differences between legislative immunity and a pardon. They are substantial. The latter carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it. The former has no such imputation or confession. It is tantamount to the silence of the witness. It is noncommittal. It is the unobtrusive act of the law given protection against a sinister use of his testimony, not like a pardon, requiring him to confess his guilt in order to avoid a conviction of it.

www.washingtonpost.com...

ETA:

Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79 (1915), was a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that: A pardoned person must introduce the pardon into court proceedings, otherwise the pardon must be disregarded by the court. To do this, the pardoned person must accept the pardon. If a pardon is rejected, it cannot be forced upon its subject.

A pardon is an act of grace, proceeding from the power entrusted with the execution of the laws, which exempts the individual on whom it is bestowed from the punishment the law inflicts for a crime he has committed.

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Sookiechacha

There are different types of pardons.

A full pardon will expunge the conviction and wipe the slate clean.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: projectvxn

Find that law or case law, please.

Find what? That pardons are for guilty people? Or that his case before Judge Sullivan still has to be resolved to reflect Flynn's guilt?

Also for people wrongly convicted 🤣🤣🤣🤣

A pardon does NOT overturn a guilty conviction. It forgives the guilty.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

a reply to: projectvxn

A full pardon will expunge the conviction and wipe the slate clean.

No it doesn't. A person receiving a pardon is still guilty. He is released from punishment.

As these opinions confirm, a presidential pardon removes, either conditionally or unconditionally, the punitive legal consequences that would otherwise flow from conviction for the pardoned offense. A pardon, however, does not erase the conviction as a historical fact or justify the fiction that the pardoned individual did not engage in criminal conduct. A pardon, therefore, does not by its own force expunge judicial or administrative records of the conviction or underlying offense.

www.justice.gov...