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I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!
11:14 AM · Dec 2, 2017
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: projectvxn
Find that law or case law, please.
Find what? That pardons are for guilty people? Or that his case before Judge Sullivan still has to be resolved to reflect Flynn's guilt?
Also for people wrongly convicted 🤣🤣🤣🤣
A pardon does NOT overturn a guilty conviction. It forgives the guilty.
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Nixon v. Sampson (D.D.C. 1975) (yes, that Nixon). (Remember that, as with President Richard Nixon, a pardon can preclude future criminal prosecutions, and not just erase past ones.)
Fourth, the two government witnesses in the case have monumental credibility problems. Under federal law, Flynn’s statements confessing guilt during his plea proceedings would not be admissible against him at trial if the plea were vacated. And Flynn would claim, in any event, that his plea statements were induced by coercion and fraud — a threat to prosecute his son if he did not plead guilty, and the prosecutor’s commitment not to prosecute his son, which was illegally withheld from the court.
originally posted by: links234
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I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!
11:14 AM · Dec 2, 2017
Especially, if you noted in your source, the following:
Nixon v. Sampson (D.D.C. 1975) (yes, that Nixon). (Remember that, as with President Richard Nixon, a pardon can preclude future criminal prosecutions, and not just erase past ones.)
Source: Why dismiss the Flynn case? Because the FBI can't prove it - The Hill
If a President chose simultaneously to issue a pardon and
order the Executive Branch to expunge any such records, we believe that order
would have the effect intended, subject to any statutory constraints on executive
record-keeping.5 Even in that case, however, the pardon would not automatically
expunge the records; it would be the President’s separate expungement order that
would require administrative agencies to take action.
That's what Judge Sullivan was looking into, whether or not the DOJ had a reasonable answer to the question of vacating the case, after Flynn's guilty plea, but before sentencing.