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The Mysterious Life and Death of Phillip Schneider...

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posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 07:30 AM
I didn't know where to put this thread, but since Phillip Schneider is related to the supposed Dulce Base, I guess I'll post it in here.

Anyway this is an interesting article about the man, he was employed for a variety of jobs by the US Army, including drilling holes and doing blasting work for the Dulce Base, and is one of the supposed survivors of the 1979 Alien/Worker conflict that broke out there underground. He also speaks alot about other conspiracies he knows about and was involved in (Black Helicopters, Railroad Prison Cars, STARWARS and so on).

Here's the link:

(interesting, but again one does doubt validity of information, as with most "defectors" who claimed they know some sensitive information)

There's also the interesting side note about how he was murdered after giving all of his lectures on what he knew and talking publicly about the US Black Budget and Aliens and such. Apparently he was murdered by the Government or some other agency (CIA, FBI, NSA, etc) and was killed "suicide-style", by someone who he knew that was involved in the same projects he worked on. He was found in his apartment by a friend and had supposedly been dead for 5-7 days before anyone noticed, he was supposed to have been strangled to death. Could be a real-life retaliation by the US Government to silence those who talk too much, who knows?

Anyway feel free to give me more evidence/arguements, whatever...

posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 02:52 PM
I have some of the lectures on video. I'll torrent them for you guys.

To download them you will need a bittorrent client. I suggest Azureus. You will need to install the Java runtime before you can install azureus. (It is available from that site)

Torrent Link

[edit on 15-3-2005 by joepits]

posted on Mar, 16 2005 @ 03:28 PM
Thanks for the link Godfather.
If all this is actually true, I think Philip Schneider is a hero, like all these people who take all the risk for the truth. I really hope all this cover-up will explode one day to pay big homage to them.

posted on Mar, 16 2005 @ 03:41 PM
Phil Schneider appears to be a fraud.

The first and easiest clue to this, is his claim that his father was a Nazi U-Boat captain. (I've noticed this site doesn't make that claim, but it is elsewhere of Phil's doing) Well, using the name he provided "Oscar Schneider", it does not corrolate to the well known list of captains (that's what happens when one loses the war, such info becomes common knowledge). This was covered in depth on another Phil Schneider thread a while back... Furthermore, his father was a Medical officer in the Navy, not a command officer.

The second is that it is almost verbatim the same story Bill Cooper peddles...but with a little extra flair tossed in.

His death was fairly mysterious, but could also be a genuine accident. If a hit, it seems it must have been a pretty rookie assassin...

The other really big problem is of course, compartmentalization. Amazingly, he seems to have been privy to many different unrelated projects (the same as Cooper coincidentally)...
Sorry folks, but that isn't how black projects work. Ever hear of CSI? I'm not talking about the show, but Compartmentalized, Sensitive, Information. Any of these projects would have certainly been compartmentalized, and there's just NO way this guy would know about them....

This is one of my favorites...

There are 157 F-117A stealth aircraft loaded with LIDAR and computer-enhanced imaging radar. They can see you walking from room to room when they fly over your house. They see objects in the house from the air with a variation limit of one inch to 30,000 miles. That's how accurate that is. I worked in the federal government for a long time, and I know exactly how they handle their business."

Yep, a jet would be REAL useful for domestic surveillance!
As long as you're doing something illegal during the few seconds of the flyby!!! Not to mention they could pick up heat sigs sure, but objects?

[edit on 16-3-2005 by Gazrok]

posted on Mar, 17 2005 @ 02:01 PM
Then exactly how does he appear on the vids and a couple of months ago Skyone did a show about conspiracies INC the Illuminati,Phil,Groom lake etc etc and they spoke to his wife. For a guy that never existed thats pretty good, they spoke to several people that were at the lectures he did, So exactly how didnt he exist when people have seen him in his lectures

[edit on 17-3-2005 by yuanshao101]

posted on Mar, 19 2005 @ 02:42 PM
On second thought. The original bittorrent is probably better for those who are inexperienced.

once installed, download the files from this link

posted on Mar, 21 2005 @ 10:30 AM
Hmm ok Phil claims they used a small nuke in the WTC bombing, uhh yeah right uhuh
What a priceworth nuke killing 6 people.

posted on Mar, 21 2005 @ 05:20 PM
you didnt research did you, lol Phil died in 1995 lol the trade centers were when ?? 2001 lol think about it lol he wasnt even aroudn then

posted on Mar, 21 2005 @ 05:45 PM
wtc was bombed in 93
planes smashed into it in 01... or did they?

edit:well they did, but theres the whole did they got bombed thing etc...

[edit on 21-3-2005 by MrDead]

posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 07:11 AM
I've heard about Phil Schneider before while surfing the 'net a while ago.

Interesting that such people end up being 'quieted' in this manner. It seems that the more controversial the figure is the sooner that they seem to be snuffed out. Is there a pattern here?...

Bill Cooper also just happens to be just one of a long line of people that 'knew too much'...
M.K. Jessup, 'Jack' Parsons, Forestal...and others... I could make a long list here.

They all seem to perish just before unveiling a significant discovery or work...
Seems odd don't it?

posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 09:03 AM
Here's a good unbiased link:

I found it based on a doc that I have on Schneider.

It's interesting reading.



posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 09:21 AM

Then exactly how does he appear on the vids and a couple of months ago Skyone did a show about conspiracies INC the Illuminati,Phil,Groom lake etc etc and they spoke to his wife. For a guy that never existed thats pretty good, they spoke to several people that were at the lectures he did, So exactly how didnt he exist when people have seen him in his lectures

Who claimed he didn't exist? Not I. I simply said he is a fraud. More specifically, his claims are fraud. Even his widow would tell you that he had paranoia episodes, distorted fact from fiction, etc.

posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 09:27 AM
I often wonder if people such as Phil Schneider are indeed frauds, but their make believe stories end up getting a little too close to reality for the government, that they need to be taken out.

posted on Apr, 27 2005 @ 09:50 AM
yeah, but it might as well be a conspiracy because the odds of someguy writing a fairy tale, purporting it to be true, and then dying because it ends up actually being true. c'mon - we have better common sense than that. they guy died for his cause. either he really wanted to sell his fairytell - even trading his life for it *or* theres something to it.

His death was fairly mysterious, but could also be a genuine accident.

yeah, "could be".. who are you kidding gazrok?! you're in denial. hows it go again? quack like a duck, walks like a duck.....

posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 03:44 PM
An accident, if you can manage to get a piano string wrapped aroudn your neck and end up seated up against the front of a chair feel free to enlighten e

posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 03:57 PM

yeah, "could be".. who are you kidding gazrok?! you're in denial. hows it go again? quack like a duck, walks like a duck.....

Read closer...

Philip had multiple health concerns, many of which could have killed him. He had chronic lower back pain that never went away, even after a back operation. He had multiple Sclerosis, which was chronic and progressive. Occasionally he had to use, crutches, a body brace, leg braces, bladder bag, catheter, diapers, and a wheelchair. He often had to sleep in a hospital bed with railings, a helmet, and body braces. When Cynthia first met him he was taking Dilantin for seizures, and almost died 3 times from this medication due to an allergic reaction.

Philip also had Brittle Bone Syndrome (osteoporosis) and cancer in his arms. He had hundreds of shrapnel wounds, a plate in his head with a metal fragment in his brain, fingers missing from his left hand. There was a scar that ran down from the top of his throat to below his belly button, and another scar that ran from just under his ribs, side to side. Cynthia would later state " Philip was a complex person. he had brain damage after a bomb was dropped on him while working as a civilian structural engineer for Morrison-Knudsen in Vietnam. He had a Rhyolite clearance. He was learning disabled, brilliant in some areas, yet unable to fill out a form in the Doctors office. Able to create time travel formulas, but unable to budget money; he had to file bankruptcy one year.

The mysterious events and autopsy I haven't seen substantiated except by those of his camp.

The article describes the position of death...

When he was found in his apartment, Philip's body was in an unusual position. His feet were under the bed, his head was in a wheelchair seat, at an unusual angle, the rest of his body was on the floor, hands by his sides.

Consistent with someone about to get in the chair and then having a stroke (as the official record states).

His ex-wife Cynthia believes this to be the case. She thinks that Philip was met by someone he knew and injected with a drug in order TO incapacitate him. The assailants then wrapped the rubber hose around his neck, asphyxiating him.

Given his health problems above, it'd hardly be necessary. A girl scout could have assassinated him...

if you can manage to get a piano string wrapped aroudn your neck and end up seated up against the front of a chair feel free to enlighten e

Where did you read about piano wire? The (unsubstantiated) belief was surgical tubing (no doubt from an IV). Hardly in denial. Go ahead, look for his father's name in a U-Boat Commander (no captains, as Phil claimed) listing... Then see who's in denial...

posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 06:14 PM

rather interesting,im still indecisive(s/p?) about his whole story as of yet.
Some factors in the whole dulce base seem too far fetched for me at time,where as others seem very intreeging(sort of racoon city in resident evil styled base seems cool mind you!)

[edit on 28-4-2005 by stars in my eyes]

posted on Apr, 28 2005 @ 06:51 PM
All i can manage to say about this topic is weird.... just weird loli

posted on May, 7 2005 @ 09:20 PM
Deep Underground Military Bases and the Black Budget

A Lecture By Phil Schneider
May 1995

Editor's Note: Phil Schneider, a very brave man, recently lost his life due to what appeared to be a military-style execution in January 1996. He was found dead in his apartment with piano wire still wrapped around his neck. According to some sources, he had been brutally tortured repeated before being killed. Phil Schneider was an ex-government engineer who was involved in building underground bases. He was one of three people to survive the 1979 fire fight between the large Greys and U.S. intelligence and military forces at Dulce underground base.

In May 1995, Phil Schneider did a lecture on what he had discovered. Seven months later he was tortured and killed by those for whom he had previously worked. This man's final acts should not go unnoticed...

"It is because of the horrendous structure of the federal government that I feel directly imperiled *not* to tell anybody about this material. How long I will be able to do this is anybody's guess. However, I would like to mention that this talk is going to be broken up into four main topics. Each of these topics will have some bearing on what you people are involved in, whether you are patriots or not.

"I want you to know that these United States are a beautiful place. I have gone to more than 70 countries, and I cannot remember any country that has the beauty, as well as the magnificence of its people, like these United States.

"To give you an overview of basically what I am, I started off and went through engineering school. Half of my school was in that field, and I built up a reputation for being a geological engineer, as well as a structural engineer with both military and aerospace applications. I have helped build two main bases in the United States that have some significance as far as what is called the New World Order. The first base is the one at Dulce, New Mexico. I was involved in 1979 in a firefight with alien humanoids, and I was one of the survivors. I'm probably the only talking survivor you will ever hear. Two other survivors are under close guard. I am the only one left that knows the detailed files of the entire operation. Sixty-six secret service agents, FBI, Black Berets and the like, died in that firefight. I was there.

"Number one, part of what I am going to tell you is going to be very shocking. Part of what I am going to tell you is probably going to be very unbelievable, though, instead of putting your glasses on, I'm going to ask you to put your "scepticals" on. But please, feel free to do your own homework. I know the Freedom of Information Act isn't much to go on, but it's the best we've got. The local law library is a good place to look for Congressional Records. So, if one continues to do their homework, then one can be standing vigilant in regard to their country.

Deep Underground Military Bases and the Black Budget:

"I love the country I am living in more than I love my life, but I would not be standing before you now, risking my life, if I did not believe it was so. The first part of this talk is going to concern deep underground military bases and the black budget. The Black Budget is a secretive budget that garners 25% of the gross national product of the United States. The Black Budget currently consumes $1.25 trillion per year. At least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned with deep underground military bases. Presently, there are 129 deep underground military bases in the United States.

"They have been building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early 1940's. Some of them were built even earlier than that. These bases are basically large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-leviton trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. Several books have been written about this activity. Al Bielek has my only copy of one of them. Richard Souder, a Ph.D architect*, has risked his life by talking about this. He worked with a number of government agencies on deep underground military bases. In around where you live, in Idaho, there are 11 of them.

*(Richard Souder -- not to be confused with Richard Sauder, Ph.D, an underground bases researcher and author of the book, "Underground Bases and Tunnels: What is the Government Trying to Hide?")

"The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. They all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size. They have laser drilling machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day. The Black Projects sidestep the authority of Congress, which as we know is illegal. Right now, the New World Order is depending on these bases. If I had known at the time I was working on them that the NWO was involved, I would not have done it. I was lied to rather extensively.

Development of Military Technology, Implied German Interest in Hyperspacial Technology, and More:

"Basically, as far as technology is concerned, for every calendar year that transpires, military technology increases about 44.5 years. This is why it is easy to understand that back in 1943 they were able to create, through the use of vaccum tube technology, a ship that could literally disappear from one place and appear in another place. My father, Otto Oscar Schneider, fought on both sides of the war. He was originally a U-boat captain, and was captured and repatriated in the United States. He was involved with different kinds of concerns, such as the A-bomb, the H-bomb and the Philadelphia Experiment. He invented a high-speed camera that took pictures of the first atomic tests at Bikini Island on July 12, 1946. I have original photographs of that test, and the photos also show UFO's fleeing the bomb site at a high rate of speed. Bikini Island at the time was infested with them, especially under the water, and the natives had problems with their animals being mutilated. At that time, General MacArthur felt that the next war would be with aliens from other worlds.

"Anyway, my father laid the groundwork with theoreticians about the Philadelphia experiment, as well as other experiments. What does that have to do with me? Nothing, other than the fact that he was my father. I don't agree with what he did on the other side, but I think he had a lot of guts in coming here. He was hated in Germany. There was a $1 million reward, payable in gold, to anyone who killed him. Obviously, they didn't succeed. Anyway, back to our topic - deep underground bases.

The Fire Fight At Dulce Base:

"Back in 1954, under the Eisenhower administration, the federal government decided to circumvent the Constitution of the United States and form a treaty with alien entities. It was called the 1954 Greada Treaty, which basically made the agreement that the aliens involved could take a few cows and test their implanting techniques on a few human beings, but that they had to give details about the people involved. Slowly, the aliens altered the bargain until they decided they wouldn't abide by it at all. Back in 1979, this was the reality, and the fire-fight at Dulce occurred quite by accident. I was involved in building an addition to the deep underground military base at Dulce, which is probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep. At that particular time, we had drilled four distinct holes in the desert, and we were going to link them together and blow out large sections at a time. My job was to go down the holes and check the rock samples, and recommend the explosive to deal with the particular rock. As I was headed down there, we found outselves amidst a large cavern that was full of outer-space aliens, otherwise known as large Greys. I shot two of them. At that time, there were 30 people down there. About 40 more came down after this started, and all of them got killed. We had surpised a whole underground base of existing aliens. Later, we found out that they had been living on our planet for a long time, perhaps a million years. This could explain a lot of what is behind the theory of ancient astronauts.

"Anyway, I got shot in the chest with one of their weapons, which was a box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose of cobalt radiation. I have had cancer because of that.

"I didn't get really interested in UFO technology until I started work at Area 51, north of Las Vegas. After about two years recuperating after the 1979 incident, I went back to work for Morrison and Knudson, EG&G and other companies. At Area 51, they were testing all kinds of peculiar spacecraft. How many people here are familiar with Bob Lazar's story? He was a physicist working at Area 51 trying to decipher the propulsion factor in some of these craft.

Schneider's Worries About Government Factions, Railroad Cars and Shackle Contracts:

"Now, I am very worried about the activity of the the federal government. They have lied to the public, stonewalled senators, and have refused to tell the truth in regard to alien matters. I can go on and on. I can tell you that I am rather disgruntled. Recently, I knew someone who lived near where I live in Portland, Oregon. He worked at Gunderson Steel Fabrication, where they make railroad cars. Now, I knew this fellow for the better part of 30 years, and he was kind of a quiet type. He came in to see me one day, excited, and he told me "they're building prisoner cars." He was nervous. Gunderson, he said, had a contract with the federal government to build 107,200 full length railroad cars, each with 143 pairs of shackles. There are 11 sub-contractors in this giant project. Supposedly, Gunderson got over 2 billion dollars for the contract. Bethlehem Steel and other steel outfits are involved. He showed me one of the cars in the rail yards in North Portland. He was right. If you multiply 107,200 times 143 times 11, you come up with about 15,000,000. This is probably the number of people who disagree with the federal government. No more can you vote any of these people out of office. Our present structure of government is "technocracy", not democracy, and it is a form of feudalism. It has nothing to do with the republic of the United States. These people are god-less, and have legislated out prayer in public schools. You can get fined up to $100,000 and two years in prison for praying in school. I believe we can do better. I also believe that the federal government is running the gambit of enslaving the people of the United States. I am not a very good speaker, but I'll keep shooting my mouth off until somebody puts a bullet in me, because it's worth it to talk to a group like this about these atrocities.

America's Black Program Contractors:

"There are other problems. I have some interesting 1993 figures. There are 29 prototype stealth aircraft presently. The budget from the U.S. Congress five-year plan for these is $245.6 million. You couldn't buy the spare parts for these black programs for that amount. So, we've been lied to. The black budget is roughly $1.3 trillion every two years. A trillion is a thousand billion. A trillion dollars weighs 11 tons. The U.S. Congress never sees the books involved with this clandestine pot of gold. Contractors of sleath programs: EG&G, Westinghouse, McDonnell Douglas, Morrison- Knudson, Wackenhut Security Systems, Boeing Aerospace, Lorimar Aerospace, Aerospacial in France, Mitsibishi Industries, Rider Trucks, Bechtel, *I.G. Farben*, plus a host of hundreds more. Is this what we are supposed to be living up to as freedom- loving people? I don't believe so.

Star Wars and Apparent Alien Threat:

"Still, 68% of the military budget is directly or indirectly affected by the black budget. Star Wars relies heavily upon stealth weaponry. By the way, none of the stealth program would have been available if we had not taken apart crashed alien disks. None of it. Some of you might ask what the "space shuttle" is "shuttling". Large ingots of special metals that are milled in space and cannot be produced on the surface of the earth. They need the near vaccum of outer space to produce them. We are not even being told anything close to the truth. I believe our government officials have sold us down the drain - lock, stock and barrel. Up until several weeks ago, I was employed by the U.S. government with a Ryolite-38 clearance factor - one of the highest in the world. I believe the Star Wars program is there solely to act as a buffer to prevent alien attack - it has nothing to do with the "cold war", which was only a toy to garner money from all the people - for what? The whole lie was planned and executed for the last 75 years.

Stealth Aircraft Technology Use by U.S. Agencies and the United Nations:

"Here's another piece of information for you folks. The Drug Enforcement Administration and the ATF rely on stealth tactical weaponry for as much as 40% of their operations budget. This in 1993, and the figures have gone up considerably since. The United Nations used American stealth aircraft for over 28% of its collective worldwide operations from 1990 to 1992, according to the Center for Strategic Studies and UN Report 3092.

The Guardians of Stealth and Delta Force Origins of the Bosnia Conflict:

"The Guardians of Stealth: There are at least three distinct classifications of police that guard our most well-kept secrets. Number one, the Military Joint Tactical Force (MJTF), sometimes called the Delta Force or Black Berets, is a multi-national tactical force primarily used to guard the various stealth aircraft worldwide. By the way, there were 172 stealth aircraft built. Ten crashed, so there were at last count about 162. Bill Clinton signed them away about six weeks ago to the United Nations. There have been indications that the Delta Force was sent over to Bosnia during the last days of the Bush administration as a covert sniper force, and that they started taking pot shots at each side of the controversy, in order to actually start the Bosnia conflict that would be used by succeeding administrations for political purposes.

Thoughts on the Bombings in the United States:

"I was hired not too long ago to do a report on the World Trade Center bombing. I was hired because I know about the 90 some odd varieties of chemical explosives. I looked at the pictures taken right after the blast. The concrete was puddled and melted. The steel and the rebar was literally extruded up to six feet longer than its original length. There is only one weapon that can do that - a small nuclear weapon. That's a construction-type nuclear device. Obviously, when they say that it was a nitrate explosive that did the damage, they're lying 100%, folks. The people they have in custody probably didn't do the crime. As a matter of fact, I have reason to believe that the same group held in custody did do other crimes, such as killing a Jewish rabbi in New York. However, I want to further mention that with the last explosion in Oklahoma City, they are saying that it was a nitrate or fertilizer bomb that did it. "First, they came out and said it was a 1,000 pound fertilizer bomb. Then, it was 1,500. Then 2,000 pounds. Now its 20,000. You can't put 20,000 pounds of fertilizer in a Rider Truck. Now, I've never mixed explosives, per se. I know the chemical structure and the application of construction explosives. My reputation was based on it. I helped hollow out more than 13 deep underground military bases in the United States. I worked on the Malta project, in West Germany, in Spain and in Italy. I can tell you from experience that a nitrate explosion would not have hardly shattered the windows of the federal building in Oklahoma City. It would have killed a few people and knocked part of the facing off the building, but it would have never have done that kind of damage. I believe I have been lied to, and I am not taking it any longer, so I'm telling you that you've been lied to.

The Truth Behind the Republican Contract With America

"I don't perceive at this time that we have too much more than six months of life left in this country, at the present rate. We are the laughing stock of the world, because we are being hoodwinked by so many evil people that are runing this country. I think we can do better. I think the people over 45 are seriously worried about their future. I'm going to run some scary scenarios by you. The Contract With America. It contains the same terminology that Adolph Hitler used to subvert Germany in 1931. I believe we can do better. The Contract With America is a last ditch effort by our federal government to tear away the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Some Statistics on the Black Helicopter Presence:

"The black helicopters. There are over 64,000 black helicopters in the United States. For every hour that goes by, there is one being built. Is this the proper use of our money? What does the federal government need 64,000 tactical helicopters for, if they are not trying to enslave us. I doubt if the entire military needs 64,000 worldwide. I doubt if all the world needs that many. There are 157 F-117A stealth aircraft loaded with LIDAR and computer-enhanced imaging radar. They can see you walking from room to room when they fly over your house. They see objects in the house from the air with a variation limit of 1 inch to 30,000 miles. That's how accurate that is. Now, I worked in the federal government for a long time, and I know exactly how they handle their business.

Government Earthquake Device, AIDS as a Bioweapon Based on Alien Excretions:

"The federal government has now invented an earthquake device. I am a geologist, and I know what I am talking about. With the Kobe earthquake in Japan, there was no pulsewave as in a normal earthquake. None. In 1989, there was an earthquake in San Francisco. There was no pulse wave with that one either. It is a Tesla device that is being used for evil purposes. The black budget programs have subverted science as we know it. Look at AIDs, invented by the National Ordinance Laboratory in Chicago, Illinois in 1972. It was a biological weapon to be used against the people of the United States. The reason I know this is that I have seen the documentation by the Office of Strategic Services, which by the way is still in operation to this day, through the CDC in Atlanta. They used the glandular excretions of animals, humans and alien humanoids to create the virus. These alien humanoids the government is hobnobbing with are the worst news. There is absolutely no defense against their germs - none. They are a biological weapon of terrible consequence. Every alien on the planet needs to be isolated.

"Saddam Hussein killed 3.5 million Kurdish people with a similar biological weapon. Do we, the people of this planet, deserve this? No, we don't, but we are not doing anything about it. Every moment we waste, we are doing other people on the planet a disservice. Right now, I am dying of cancer that I contracted because of my work for the federal government. I might live six months. I might not. I will tell you one thing. If I keep speaking out like I am, maybe God will give me the life to talk my head off. I will break every law that it takes to talk my head off. Eleven of my best friends in the last 22 years have been murdered. Eight of the murders were called "suicides." Before I went to talk in Las Vegas, I drove a friend down to Joshua Tree, near 29 Palms. I drove into the mountains in order to get to Needles, California, and I was followed by two government E-350 vans with G-14 plates, each with a couple of occupants, one of which had an Uzi. I knew exactly who they were. I have spoken 19 times and have probably reached 45,000 people. Well, I got ahead of them and came to a stop in the middle of the road. They both went on either side of me and down a ravine. Is this what its going to take? I cut up my security card and sent it back to the government, and told them if I was threatened, and I have been, that I was going to upload 140,000 pages of documentation to the internet about government structure and the whole plan. I have already begun that task.

"Thank you very much."

End of May 1995 Lecture

[edit on 7-5-2005 by bjordi]

posted on May, 17 2005 @ 06:00 AM
Could anyone check that Phil is really dead? I mean this may be part of the hoax. As anyone seen his tombstone, police reports, death certificates or any OFFICIAL document showing that he's dead? Maybe that wasn't even his real name, or he maybe has never worker for the DOD.

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