Science indicates evolution of species.

Science indicates an evolution of species, and not just among species but literally beings transforming into other beings and all descending from a common ancestor.

People are convinced, science is right and there is proof. Science manages to reveal things that happened millions of years ago!

The finger points at religion, your books are wrong! It's all a lie and your God certainly must not exist also. Believers dive into their books, science must be wrong but the evidence is overwhelming and society evolves into another era when it comes to religion.

Science became the salvation of mankind. One day we will find a way to adjust people and make them live longer.

Now this God that kept us in the dark ages is gone we will evolve eradicating any leftover beliefs.

But what guides evolution ?

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Scence also indicates a holographic universe. It's like someone designed a game and the NPC's are trying to figure out what is going on.

a reply to: Gothmog

Adaption to the surrounding.

Beings are living for thousands of years in a surrounding that changes them.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Gothmog

Adaption to the surrounding.

Beings are living for thousands of years in a surrounding that changes them.

Something guides that "adaptation"
Most mutations are "bad" (defective) mutations and are caused by some outside force.

a reply to: Gothmog

The drive to survive!

a reply to: Gothmog

mutation, heritability and necessity

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
Science indicates an evolution of species,

No, it doesn't. What it indicates is a horizontal mutation within a species to maximise the chances of survival. That's not the same thing as gradual evolution of one species into another. But people become oblivious of the important philosophical difference between these words because they know they have to believe what is politically correct and they don't have the time or ability to investigate for themselves.

and not just among species but literally beings transforming into other beings and all descending from a common ancestor.

Where's the evidence for that? You are merely making an unwarranted extrapolation from the known facts. There is NO evidence for sudden crossover or gradual transition between species. Nor is there any evidence for all life having a common ancestor. Instead, you are confusing a fact with a scientific belief - an ideological presupposition made by science.

People are convinced,

No, they are not. Most do not have the knowledge to convince themselves. Instead, they become brainwashed from school onwards into accepting the dogmas and theories that masquerade as scientific truth. All that convinces them is the facade of scientists who tell them what they should believe.

science is right and there is proof. Science manages to reveal things that happened millions of years ago!

So what? Just because religion cannot provide the kind of concrete proof that science offers does not imply that religion is "wrong". This is a non sequitur based upon an underlying bias.

The finger points at religion, your books are wrong!

What is wrong is not the metaphysical meaning behind creation myths in religious books but the literal, concrete interpretation that educated but spiritually illiterate teachers pass on to their students - one that distorts the subtle, archetypal meaning of these myths and creates the illusion that they contradict scientific facts about the universe and life. The fault lies not in religion itself but with most people's understanding of it.

It's all a lie and your God certainly must not exist also.

A non sequitur. If you don't believe in fairy tales, you cannot logically infer that fairies don't exist. You had to make that assumption BEFORE disbelieving in fairy tales. So you start by not believing in God and ONLY THEN religion itself becomes a lie.

Believers dive into their books, science must be wrong but the evidence is overwhelming and society evolves into another era when it comes to religion.

All that is overwhelming is the evidence provided by science that the literal interpretation of the creation myth in various religions is wrong. When that myth is understood in its deeper mystical and metaphysical sense, its harmony with scientific discoveries become revealed.

Science became the salvation of mankind. One day we will find a way to adjust people and make them live longer.

"make" them live longer? What if some don't want to live longer with their frailties and lack of supporting relatives? This is an example of how science without the wisdom of religion leads to authoritarianism, for science itelf cannot provide the meaning to life, and so it thinks blindly that extending it at all costs with the latest technologies is life's prime directive. It isn't and it never was. It is the quality of life that is important, not its length.

Now this God that kept us in the dark ages is gone we will evolve eradicating any leftover beliefs.

It was never God that kept us in the dark ages. It was authoritarian religion intent on preserving its power over people's minds - much as science is doing now.......

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Gothmog

The drive to survive!

Very superficial. You have exposed the vacuousness of Darwinian evolution. It cannot explain all that is going on in the biological world and covers up its inadequacy by using empty phrases that resort to the very metaphysical/religious speculation that it intended to drive away! What "drive"? Pure invention, because Darwinianism needs to underpin its hypothesis of "survival of the fittest" with something that justifies it, so that it concocts the notion of a "drive" without an iota of evidence to support its reality. "Drive" is just as metaphysical as "God", but, of course, it is a more acceptable notion because it sounds faintly biochemical, whereas "God" is not. Never mind that we have no evidence for an idea as long as it sounds more materialistic!

Just because everyone wants to live and will defend themselves in order to do so does not imply that their behaviour is governed by some "drive" similar to what makes people want sex or have families.
Evolitionists pride themselves with doing away with old religious explanations. Yet they indulge in new ones whenever their theories cannot come up with an answer to the question: why does life want to "survive" in the first place?!

originally posted by: micpsi

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Gothmog

The drive to survive!

Double post

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Feeding the trolls ... but I don't care.

Please (for all of us) name one instance of evolution. I know you can do it. Darwin's (failed) theory was published back about 150 years ago. Should have been plenty of time for one Scientifically (that's science with a capital S ... not your lower case version) documented instance.

Go ahead ... we'll wait.

nope....uh uhh....naw Darwin said the eye is not explainable.....and if any reverse development is seen in tissue studies then all bets are off.....muscle tissue exhibits that

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Gothmog

The drive to survive!

Nope.
Guess again.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
Science indicates an evolution of species, and not just among species but literally beings transforming into other beings and all descending from a common ancestor.

Now this God that kept us in the dark ages is gone we will evolve eradicating any leftover beliefs
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Yeah but, science doesn’t, show me the repetable testable observable evidence and as for the datk ages
The Christian reformation taught reading and education leading to science exploding
Science nor atheism brought on Western Civilisation

Your opinion is flawed, sorry

a reply to: micpsi

For some reason I can’t Star this post, very well done

a reply to: Raggedyman

There's a whole belief system built upon this science. Can't you see people are acting like they evolved from Neanderthal?

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Raggedyman

There's a whole belief system built upon this science. Can't you see people are acting like they evolved from Neanderthal?

I thought scientific evidence now pointed to Neanderthals being stronger and more intelligent than Homo sapiens
Do you know what you are talking about I am wondering

a reply to: Raggedyman

I don't know, do you?

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Evolution is the best fit we have at present given our current understanding of things.
There is verifiable scientific evidence that shows evolution has and is occurring on a constant ongoing basis.

But there are still gaps in our understanding.

Many scientists are also deists of one brand or another.
Some have deep and unwavering belief in their faith.

Personally I'm agnostic and I try not to waste too much time on something that is ultimately unprovable until death or some sort of Day of Judgement.

Religion is a huge comfort for many whilst also being the cause of so many atrocities throughout human history.
It has also been the source of much good.
But blind faith in anything, including atheism, is just that....blind faith.
And blind faith is the mother of arrogance, ignorance and intolerance.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Not my thread, you penned it, you research it

Always better to make sure you know what you are talking about here before making up what ever story you think will support your narrative

Some smart people around here, both sides