Corona Virus-Family-Friends Skeptics- How To Open their eyes!

Worry is useless and pointless. Basic prepping is just common sense. Quit trying to sell fear and instead have them focus on doing the logical thing like having extra food and water as well as additional supplies of all medications.

The goal isn’t to spread your own worry...the goal is for them to be safe, correct? Simply change your focus.

originally posted by: Metallicus
Worry is useless and pointless. Basic prepping is just common sense. Quit trying to sell fear and instead have them focus on doing the logical thing like having extra food and water as well as additional supplies of all medications.

The goal isn’t to spread your own worry...the goal is for them to be safe, correct? Simply change your focus.

Yes I tried that and hence the fights started! She is OCD logical and I need and perhaps many of us need a snap shot view of the severity of this thing.

a reply to: oneiro13

Influenza spreads around the world in yearly outbreaks, resulting in about three to five million cases of severe illness and about 290,000 to 650,000 deaths.

About 20% of unvaccinated children and 10% of unvaccinated adults are infected each year.

The mortality rate varies from nation to nation and i imagine dependant on factors like proper access to medicine and healthcare effects said rate.

originally posted by: all2human
a reply to: andy06shake

Well if 60% get it at 2% mortality
that's still 96 million
not exactly a low number
96000000
bound to raise eyebrows

I would be very good news if this virus has a 2% mortality rate.

But It is strange that it is so low due to previous virus.
MERS had 858 death / 2494 cases 34,4%
SARS 2002 – 31 July 2003 774 deaths 8,096 cases 9.6%

Does the fact that it incubates slower make it less deadly than SARS?
It does increase the problem with spreading and quarantine.

Explain to them that 48 hours ago, Italy had 2 cases of this virus. Now, they are at 80 with 2 deaths and towns shutting down. That's over a 2% fatality rate there.. more than 20 times worse than the flu. If they can't understand how fast this is growing in South Korea, Italy, Iran.. and it's only going to get worse, quickly.. not much you -can- do to convince them. Many won't be until it hits home, and someone they are close to gets deathly ill. Then.. they will take it seriously.

Don't scare friends and family. Just be aware if you can't get supplies from the stores for weeks or months at a time, people will suddenly worry a whole lot, possibly panic. No need to get people panicking before you get a chance to buy supplies. I'm trying to finish moving on the weekend and if everyone stayed home afraid to go out to eat, then economic recession or worse probably wouldn't be far behind. When people start worrying about losing jobs, can't find supplies in the stores, can't even travel to stores if a city is under quarantine, they might panic if they aren't ready. I don't want people panicking and I bet many others don't want the people to panic or it could be a self fulfilling need to panic. Sort of like everyone buying all the bread and milk in the southern US when a snow storm is forecast.

a reply to: orionthehunter

Remember and get 10 gallons of milk and all the bread you can carry. LoL

On a more serious note, if you are out shopping without panic, plenty of Vitamin C supplement and a packet of Fishermans friends might be nice to have on the shelf.

It's best not to. The more people who realise what's going on, the sooner panic sets in. If everyone with the sniffles tried to seek medical attention, people who actually need care would suffer. We would also have people buying up everything in the stores, while everyone else would refuse to put themselves at risk by going to work making it difficult to resupply.

Basically, If deniability starts to fall apart in your area, it's too late to bug out as the surrounding communities will also barricade off and prevent people from quarantined areas from entering.

Once you find yourself under quarantine, the area will only receive the minimum amount of water, food, and medications that make the outsiders feel as if they didn't just lock everyone away to die.

Maybe open your own eyes.

That's a good start.

a reply to: LittleByLittle

"Does the fact that it incubates slower make it less deadly than SARS?"

I'm not sure, certainly make it somewhat harder to track around the globe.

The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, the deadliest in history, infected 500 million people worldwide, about one-third of the world's population at the time, and killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million victims the incubation period for that was apparently 2 to 7 days.

The problem lies in the fact we have the capability to move both man and goods around the globe in a matter of hours/days. Our infostructure and transportation hubs become a double-edged sword where flu-like virus are concerned.

If anything, I'd think the MSM is probably blowing it out of proportion. I wouldn't start to worry until I see things happening with my own eyes.

a reply to: sirlancelot

How do you take it seriously?

a reply to: sirlancelot

Probably the same thing I do for something the infects millions of people each year, and kills from 20,000 to 50,000 each year. It’s called the flu.

Most people get a mild reaction, but there are some that will get it pretty bad from what I read. I personally am not going to worry much about it. make sure to eat decently, not a lot of prepared foods, and it will most times make the symptoms less of a pain in the butt.

For those with a compromised immune system or old people, it may be more of a problem. If you are going to be talking to others about preparing, mention that they should stock up a little food and supplies to last three weeks or more in case there is a quarantine in effect. The stores empty pretty quick when people are worried about a pandemic hitting the area, everyone will be out there with their masks on shedding germs. Easier to prpepare ahead of time, the food will not go to waste.

And remember, prepping means stocking toilet paper too.

My family has always had a good stock of everything we could possibly. We have go to spot. Plans on plans. We have a solid tight knit network across the region.

We just do it and don't think about it. It's just common sense to us, so yeah we may roll our eyes when we see people panicking and rushing to buy entire racks of supplies, but it's not because we think lowly of them. We just think that people shouldn't have to panick and bumrush stores because they should already be prepared and have what they need.

As far as your situation goes, tell your girlfriend that it's better to be safe than sorry.

originally posted by: BrianFlanders
If anything, I'd think the MSM is probably blowing it out of proportion. I wouldn't start to worry until I see things happening with my own eyes.

The numbers speak for themselves - MSM doesn't need to blow anything out of proportion. Currently it's on pace to be twice as easy to catch as the flu, but will kill around 20 times more people. That's not being doom-porny or anything along those lines - that's reality. If that doesn't seem a big deal to you or others, ok - but I think for many it's a pretty big deal.

It's crazy you started this thread right now.

I actually was just talking to my brother on preparing a little for the oncoming financial institution setbacks and possible market crash.

He lives up near Peoria Il and doesn't think too much about the situation.

His reply to me was, "I'll look into it".

After sending him links about NY and Florida saying they dont have to report how many people are being tested or are infected, I explained to him how the politicians don't want panic and wide spread store shelf rushing.

I don't think he really listened tho. He was worried about the race.

I just told him that I worry about him and I dont have enough to take care of everybody and it is his duty to take care of him and his family, because in the long run you can't expect anyone else to look out for you andyour best interest.

It fell on deaf ears, I know it.

But all we can do is try.

originally posted by: olaru12
trump will make an announcement soon and then things should be ok for a while. Surely the WH is on top of it. And don't call me Shirley....

trumps sec of Health and Human services Alex Azar probably has a cracker jack team working for us...I wouldn't worry!!

Iv'e got a nurse friend and she has me stocked up with all kinds of pills and flu medicine.

I really hope you are being sarcastic.

Like really, really hope you are.

Also an update. I've been to four different Home Depots in the past few days and they are all sold out of the N95 masks. But they still have the P95 half face respirators. Get em while you can if you don't have any. I don't know why people trust the rinky dink elastic band, metal nostril strip, crumply masks anyways. They suck. They don't fit snug to the face and they're weak.

originally posted by: AutomateThis1
Also an update. I've been to four different Home Depots in the past few days and they are all sold out of the N95 masks. But they still have the P95 half face respirators. Get em while you can if you don't have any. I don't know why people trust the rinky dink elastic band, metal nostril strip, crumply masks anyways. They suck. They don't fit snug to the face and they're weak.

Those masks are for the common cold and those affected by pollen in the air. The next best thing is to wear what patients and doctors normally wear in the hospitals, not the best, but ... The masks are kind of useless if someone next to you have the virus and coughing up a shi... storm and if you don't have eyewear on. Yes, the virus can be transmitted threw the eyes, not yet known about infected toilets, but I'll never try to use a public toilet from now on .