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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
Socialism is supposed to make the people equal. If socialism made the state rich but the people are suffering either you are doing it wrong or it doesn't work.
originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: JAGStorm
Oh, you feel sorry for family and friends cos they're suffering. Well your the one that took the money and f###ed off.Just a small question for you all :-where did all the rich people get all their money? Hint it wasn't from other rich people.
originally posted by: crayzeed
Oh, you feel sorry for family and friends cos they're suffering. Well your the one that took the money and f###ed off.Just a small question for you all :-where did all the rich people get all their money? Hint it wasn't from other rich people.
originally posted by: JAGStorm
My family and friends had the EXACT same choice to move if they wished to. It's not like they are in prison and can't escape.
In fact, some of them live so close to bordering states, moving would be no different than changing towns.
originally posted by: pexx421
First off, there ain’t no socialism. No blue state socialism, no Cali socialism. The closest we have is Hawaii’s state healthcare and Alaska’s oil dividends to every resident. As far as corruption? Come on. The Deep South is the reddest section of the nation, and where I grew up in Louisiana we were regularly ranked among top 3 for most corrupt. And the reddest states, like the Deep South, are all low wages, high poverty, low education, etc. Louisiana, for instance. Red state, among the highest corporate profits, and strangely horrible standard of living, 49th in education, among the highest poverty. Strange, no?
At any rate, which of our states is the wonderful example of republican right wing capitalist utopia? I’m interested to hear.
As to progressive tax. Maybe you’re right, and progressive tax shouldn’t be a thing. I’d be perfectly fine with a flat 35% tax levied only upon capital gains, rent, and other unearned income, while leaving all labor wages and non profits completely exempt from taxation.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: pexx421
First off, there ain’t no socialism. No blue state socialism, no Cali socialism. The closest we have is Hawaii’s state healthcare and Alaska’s oil dividends to every resident. As far as corruption? Come on. The Deep South is the reddest section of the nation, and where I grew up in Louisiana we were regularly ranked among top 3 for most corrupt. And the reddest states, like the Deep South, are all low wages, high poverty, low education, etc. Louisiana, for instance. Red state, among the highest corporate profits, and strangely horrible standard of living, 49th in education, among the highest poverty. Strange, no?
At any rate, which of our states is the wonderful example of republican right wing capitalist utopia? I’m interested to hear.
As to progressive tax. Maybe you’re right, and progressive tax shouldn’t be a thing. I’d be perfectly fine with a flat 35% tax levied only upon capital gains, rent, and other unearned income, while leaving all labor wages and non profits completely exempt from taxation.
The problem is capital gains is a risk and so it is not continuous in nature. You have good years and bad years and if the good years were taxed like crazy then you would not over come the bad years....Its not like the Government would pay you back.
originally posted by: pexx421
a reply to: Xtrozero
Me taking employment is a risk too. We all take risks when we take jobs. Know what the difference is? Capital gains are risks made with disposable income. With employment we often have good years and bad years too. The govt has never helped me on my bad years. There is a distinct and very obvious difference between profit you are creating with your own actual work and labor, and profit you accumulate from other people’s work. So again, I say our personal labor should not be taxed, deducted from, infringed upon, because that is what limits our own ability to take those risks and have those capital gains for ourselves.
And when those capital gains have bad years? That’s what labor is for. When you have a capital gains loss you lose paper. When you have an employment loss you lose home. Car. Wife.
originally posted by: Edumakated
TN is booming.
This country needs financial education. Half these political debates wouldn't even exist if some people had a rudimentary understanding of economics and finance.
originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: JAGStorm
I live in Southern illinois. There are people here who have been trying to separate Chicago/Cooke County from Illinois for years for this very reason. It'll never happen, but I applaud them for trying. We have to rid ourselves of the scum in the state capital before anything else gets done.
originally posted by: KnoxMSP
originally posted by: Edumakated
TN is booming.
Uhm, no. My whole family is there. That is not true. Wages are low, and work is hard to come by. The best thing about TN is low COLI.
I lived there for about a decade (north of Knoxville). I did well there but thats because I was a cancer wielding death merchant.
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: KnoxMSP
originally posted by: Edumakated
TN is booming.
Uhm, no. My whole family is there. That is not true. Wages are low, and work is hard to come by. The best thing about TN is low COLI.
I lived there for about a decade (north of Knoxville). I did well there but thats because I was a cancer wielding death merchant.
Chattanooga? Nashville? Major cities there seem to be doing pretty well from my research...
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: jjkenobi
Over a trillion in debt.
Rolling blackouts.
Tens of thousands of homeless living in tent shelters.
Yep, checks out.
You seem to have left out that CA is the world's fifth largest economy.
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: jjkenobi
Over a trillion in debt.
Rolling blackouts.
Tens of thousands of homeless living in tent shelters.
Yep, checks out.
You seem to have left out that CA is the world's fifth largest economy.
That makes it even worse. All that economic activity and liberals still can't help but run the state into the ground.
Thanks for playing...
originally posted by: pyguy
originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: JAGStorm
I live in Southern illinois. There are people here who have been trying to separate Chicago/Cooke County from Illinois for years for this very reason. It'll never happen, but I applaud them for trying. We have to rid ourselves of the scum in the state capital before anything else gets done.
I wish we could do the same up here in Wisconsin... If it weren't for Milwaukee and Dane counties, it would be much saner place!