(long post, use brain mode: ON to read)
//Tldr: Nasa lies. Mars cant have 0.6% of earths atmosphere. //
So, as a skeptic to everything official, I was trying to find another hole in the official theories of something i found in the daily dose of news.
And found a TRUE GEM.
Nasa is lying either about their helicopter or about Mars conditions. Truth: I guess both
This helicopter....supposedly will Fly on Mars. Its impossible.
Prove me wrong. Because I want to be right.
So I found out about "Nasa Scout", it is a helicopter being planned to be sent to Mars. I thought nice untill a lightbulb went off in my roof and I
remembered never to trust the official story because that was a energy saving bulb which were said to live 100 times longer than a normal one and this
one lasted maybe 2 times longer but cost 8 times more so I was scammed (scammed by the official story that is).
So heres the math, I hope im right at once because I got bad grades in math in school (i did get the answers correct but didnt know how so the grades
were bad etc...):
So lets start:
Nasa says Mars has only 0.6% atmospheric pressure of earths.
Pressure comes from, how much material, usually in gas form, clumped together by gravity there is. Requires: something which emits gases (which
requires depending on source material, energy, heat, etc to gasify) and gravity so it clumps together and wont float to space.
Mars atmosphere: 6.0 mbar ("official story)"
Earth: 1,013 mbar (sealevel)
Divide 1013 with 6 is 168.93 smaller. Lets round it to 169. I will use it later.
Lets put moon here too: Moon atmosphere 0% of earths. Its a rock in vacuum. Basically like Mars. And the 0.6% on Mars is mostly co2. People always say
"mars atmosphere is carbon dioxide you cant breath it." Well no you cant breath it because there basically is none. If Mars atmosphere would be same
as earths, "nitrogen (about 78%), oxygen (about 21%), " you still cant breath it because there is none. Not enough OXYGEN molecyles in the air to get
Thats what 0.6% buys you.
Mars gravity is: 38% of earths. Will use this later.
Nasa Scout helicopter facts:
"white paper" they mean the "lie paper":
It says: weight will be 1.7kg.
power source 6x 2Ah sony US1865o li-ions.
Flight time 15min.
Rotor RPM 2800.
Rotors 1.2M co-axial.
Motor: " The rotors are actuated with a custom 46 pole brushless motor with
solenoid wound teeth using rectangular copper wire"
It has smaller motors for gears and tilt and so on too but the main engine is kept secret. It is just "custom". With a bunch of fancy words.
Well lets go deeper:
Because mars gravity is 38% of earths, we get:
We divide 100 with 0.38. It is 2.63. So a craft can be 2.63 times lighter and have same lift capability as on earth and it will still fly, if
atmosphere is same. Remember, atmosphere is atoms, as gas, and rotors spin through it like a screw.
Well I dont think this gravity conversion is enough to lighten the craft enough and keep it powerful enough.
169 divided with 2.63 is 64.
So even with the gravity reduction in the calculations, the nasa helicopter must create 64 times more lift than on earths for it to move. It must move
64 times more for it to be able to "swim" through the atmosphere. Like a motor boats propeller which turns itself through the water and goes forward,
Mars simply does not have much atoms or anything, to which "swim through" with the propeller. Therefore it must move much faster, to move through the
atmosphere, to move more stuff and keep afloat.
Imagine fish tank with bubbles coming from the bottle. Suddenly you only have 50% of water there. Imagine if theres only 0.6% water. You would drop
to the bottom and not move at all. Now with a special engine you could get back up but it would be a : marvel of known technology (rocket propulsion
or other methods not allowed, only a rotor system allowed).
Ofcourse unless you are Nasa and have created a "custom 46 pole motor" which creates 64 times more power than any known electric engine. Because it
will need to spin 64 times more, to get same amount of atoms/material, this time mostly carbon dioxide to go through its rotors.
And powered by 6x 2Ah li-ions. With a flight time of 15min. ANd a carry weight of 1.7Kg. And an RPM of 2800. So it doesnt even use energy 64 times
more, this is the marvelous part. Also 2800 RPM will be enough for a 1.2M coaxial blade to swim through this 169 times thinner atmosphere (64 times
effective thinnes after gravity compensation). So it should fly on earh with only 44 RPM (if you divide 2800 with 64).
This ofcourse makes no sense and nasa lies again.
Because if this is true, it is a place for a nobel science prize congratulations Nasa. You also just bankrupted every electric engine company on the
Also: please read my post 2 times before you try to counter. It also cant be countered with:
"Mars has smaller gravity so its ok."
No its not ok, gravity is only 2.63 less, but rotors would still need to spin 64 times more than on earth to get the same lift. If Mars Gravity would
be same as earths, it would be 169 times more. How can you even try to claim anything rotor based will fly in such a thin atmosphere, its basically
Also it cant be countered with:
"It is still 95 Co2"
Yes the 0.6% is 95 Co2. Atmospheric mass is still only (in relation, meaning : ofcourse mars is smaller planet and less mass in its atmosphere but the
thickness is still only 0.6% of earths) to earths, 0.6%. More mass more pressure. Pressure is still only 6 mbar.
Also it cant be countered with:
"nasa has special engines".
Show the bluepring. They would also bankrupt tesla, and every other company which makes engines if they would come up with an electric engine which is
64 times more efficient than current known to humans. Nasa would also get billions a week with this new invention and they could fund themselves. More
logical explanation. They already have all the funds on the planet, they do what they want, they tell us lies because we are so dumbp in their view.
ALtough its them who try to put a helicopter on mars which has nothing to fly in.
Also: If rotor spins 2800RPM on mars, it would need to spin 64 times less on an atmosphere which is 64 times more heavy (if gravity is 2.63 more), so
thats 44rpm, on earth. Which it didnt in the tests.
Mars atmosphere has according to official theory: 0.6% of atmosphere of earths. It means there are only 0.6% of atoms floating as gas form on the
planet, compared to earths. It is like a sea would turn to mist and have only 0.6 gallons on left tank, and 100 gallon in right tank, but the tank
having the same volume. You could not use a propeller based system (without huge extra energy, and not maybe even then) in the 0.6 gallon tank since
theres much less stuff to grab onto with propeller blades, so blades would need to spin faster.
So its impossible.
Nasa is lying and Mars either has a thicker atmosphere or this is a super special engine they created.
I think Mars has a thicker atmosphere since there is so bright on Mars. There must be a thicker atmosphere because otherwise it would be dark like
moon with the 0.6% since no material would be floating around reflecting sunlight.
Atmosphere = material above mars ground as a gas (rockdust not included).
There have a go at this puzzle.
edit on 20-10-2019 by SpaceBoyOnEarth because: (no reason given)