Alabama Senate passes nation’s most restrictive abortion ban

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Tempter

A state that's willing to entertain the possibility of criminalizing abortions.

Yet ranks 50th in the public education system.

Don't exactly give a rats-arse about children.

Actually, California ranks 50th. Not counting "Higher" education, which includes degrees in gender studies...

And furthermore, Alabama has a been a Democrat state for a very long time, and only recently has it changed hands.

Just look what they did to poor Birmingham..

a reply to: Wardaddy454

I'm sure you get the point though.

Banning abortions in the state of Alabama, and indeed criminalizing such, simply won't work out the way these pro-life do-gooder Muppets imagine.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Tempter

A state that's willing to entertain the possibility of criminalizing abortions.

Yet ranks 50th in the public education system.

Don't exactly give a rats-arse about children.

Actually, California ranks 50th. Not counting "Higher" education, which includes degrees in gender studies...

And furthermore, Alabama has a been a Democrat state for a very long time, and only recently has it changed hands.

Just look what they did to poor Birmingham..

Doublechecking your facts... California is 21st in state rankings. Alabama is the one that's 50th (source)

The Alabama Republican Party's own website says that the state's Democrats lost power in 1986... which is 30 years ago. It hasn't had a Democrat senator since 1996 (which is 23 years, give or take a few months.) That's "recent" in geological times but not considered "recent" by any other standard. Source - Alabama GOP

a reply to: Wardaddy454

Looks like Byrd link supports the 50th ranking.

a reply to: Xtrozero

I have a human thumb too, its not a complete human is it? Neither is a zygote, embryo, my heart, or my big toe.

Your thumb does not comprise your entire body. A zygote, embryo, or fetus is the entire body of the organism.

Dude... there is a difference between saying "is a human cell" and "is A human"

When we are talking about the entirety of the organism, we are talking about a human. When we are not talking about the entirety of the organism, we are talking about human cells.

I know you're trying to look all smart and stuff, but you're just flat wrong on this one. It is not a portion of a human; it is the entirety of the human. It is a human, and it is a human starting from when the DNA becomes unique through egg fertilization. Before that you can say it is not "a" human, but rather human cells; the egg and sperm are only a portion of the father and mother's body.

You should have learned this in the 5th grade. I'm sorry our public school system let you down.

TheRedneck

a reply to: dawnstar

That would depend? At what point in time did our not so human ancester evolve into our current human form.

How exactly is that relevant? The mother and father have not changed species, have they?

TheRedneck

a reply to: Byrd

It hasn't had a Democrat senator since 1996 (which is 23 years, give or take a few months.)

Doug Jones?

Hello?

TheRedneck

a reply to: InTheLight


Because you are literally speaking another language. A 2000-year-old book is telling them that "equal representation" = they lose.

a reply to: TheRedneck

First did you read all of my post or just that paragraph because I did do my best to explain where I was going with it.
Most of us have a little bit of Neanderthal in our DNA strand. Are we Neanderthal?
Genetically there isnt really that big of a difference between them and the humans of today. Or humans and monkeys really. But, and I really don't know the answer to this, are Neanderthals considered human? Or does that small difference in there DNA separate them from the human race? If science were to resurrect one somehow would we welcome it into the human race, bestow it with all the rights and liberties we have or would we be more likely to to exhibit it in a zoo like environment, maybe even resurrect a few prehistoric animals to make the exhibit more interesting so someone can make more money from people who want too see what our prehistoric cousin looked like?
All it takes is a few tweaks in the genetic code.
Well the many atomic tests, fukishima and chernobyl, the depleted uranium, the agent orange, and all the toxins we are surrounded with has provided us with the tweaks.we may have been born human but some of us now carry corrupted DNA. Mommy nature and daddy chaos have a few new building blocks to play with and in time they just might find a way to use them that results in a baby with an even bigger difference than what there is between us and the neanderthals. And homo-whatever will start showing up in the world. Or maybe it will be such a large variance that won't fit the homo-family. Even though mommy and daddy were human.
A biracial kid has a dad that is African American and a mother who is white and yet so often he isn't accepted in either the black community or the white. And yet he pretty much looks the same as every one else. He has two eyes, two ears, two arms and legs. He is human. He looks much more similar to is that a Neanderthal would yet he might find himself not accepted.
Although I hope that I am wrong. I think the day will come either thanks to mommy nature and daddy chaos along with our own stupid mistakes or our own scientific community human mommies and daddies will be having not quite human babies which may just be more fit to survive than we are. And we really should start discussing just how that will be handled legally and socially before it happens.
So no I reject the idea that every fetus is a human just because the parents are.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

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I'm not sure what everyone is trying to solve here. How many of these children are you going to take into your own house and raise? I'm taking zero, so you better up your numbers...

We can also outlaw pregnancy and place the child in government care and the mom and dad in prison. At some point we will need population control or do you feel letting the heard die out to starvation to reduce sustainable numbers as just another act of God.

I have two kids and along with my wife. We have raised them ourselves to the ages of 21 and 18 so far. So yeah, I HAVE taken children into my home. I would expect anyone else who is participating in sex in the first place to be just as responsible. It's no secret that if you have sex that babies are a very probable side effect. Hence, if you can't raise them...stop having sex or go and relieve yourself in silence (I think you know what I am getting at there).

As for rapes and incest. That is such a very small percentage of children being born that it's almost incalculable. Even by the Planned Parenthood figures. BTW, I won't be taking anyone else's responsibilities into my home, but there are thousands upon thousands of people in the states looking to adopt children, but the state makes it hard to do so as well as expensive.
Women who are infertile, middle aged and can no longer have babies, or just people who want to help those abandoned children and sacrifice their own fertility to do it. They're out there.

Why don't more people adopt?

The main reason why so many children are born and the fathers are not around is...

1) In a Government campaign to split families apart, thus making America what it is right now...weak...the Government makes it profitable for women to have a baby and divorce the husband. Women actually make more money by getting child support and alimony than with staying with their husbands. Many husbands also end up in prison for not being able to pay on any given month, because it's damn near their whole paycheck and it makes it impossible for them to live. So the laws against men are pretty draconian...yet women do not have to bear this burden at all, as a whole. This is why they always threaten men with taking their children, if they don't behave as their women see fit. There is one particular 'female group' out there (and everyone knows who they are...I dare not say their name, because every time I mention their name in a bad light..but well deserved light, there is a female mod here deletes 100% of my posts about them. I can prove it because I save every post on here and I catalog who it was that deleted them, along with screenshots). So yeah, I’m being censored on here. I have so much evidence, and it’s only one female mod doing it. But I digress...

Below is just something that I snagged from my Facebook posts one day and saved because of the audacity behind them. Not even ashamed.


followed by some supporters and some gifs of women dancing. Yet, they all deny publicly that it's even happening. Here's your proof!




#2) The world does not have a sustainability issue. I worked 18 years of my life on a dairy farm and the Government shut a farming family of 3 generations down and simply stole it all because of new policies. It was my uncle's farm and I saw it all. His wife died soon after and all of them were depressed until I had to leave and go into the Military. Their lives were destroyed because of those policies that gave them full control of our resources. As we know, they have recently given all of that control to Monsanto...some of the most "proven to be evil" people on earth. They are simply confiscating all of our resources, hoarding it for themselves and for total control, and cramming us in tighter and tighter cities so that we "feel" cramped and the police have better control over us all.
The Government is also buying up millions of acres of land just for the sake of buying it and telling us that we can't go on their property. Property that was purchased with OUR tax dollars. This is going to get much worse too, just like Area 51 and the surrounding land there...they have a lot more of that.

That said, you say we are running out of places to live, yet there are areas in the Central US in the desert areas that they could terraform....but won't. Ever been to Saskatchewan Canada or Alberta? Thousands and thousands of square miles of nothingness...and don’t say it can’t be done. Nevada did it for their Casino’s. So, it seems it it makes the Government lots of money....NOW it’s possible.
The outcome will be that we have a lot of people and everyone will think there's no place to live because of sustainability, but what's really happening is that the Government is herding us like sheep into smaller and smaller pens, and forbidding us to even walk on the land that they purchase for themselves. FEMA is a very big part of this and "No Go" Zones will be a very popular issue in the future.


It's not people that we need to get rid of...it's corrupt Government and shadow figures like the Rothschild Banking Families, who hide in the dark like cowards, while trying to soft kill all of us so they can have the earth for their own lineages in the future. The only need a few of us as slaves 500 million. Look at the Georgia Guide stones, which I might add is guarded by police night and day. Donated by a wealthy millionaire who was anonymous in 1980 and they are still there. The elite's 10 guidelines (mocking the 10 commandments no doubt) and in 8 common languages and 4 ancient language scripts. Look at the first rule that they want to apply. It's the first so it must be the most important.

Celebrities all of a sudden care about Alabama. They're telling the Governor, "Shame on You"..Human Babies deserve the right to be killed.

Source: thehill.com...

We need a list of which pro-murder artists/actors to boycott, by not buying their songs, or movies.

originally posted by: carewemust
Celebrities all of a sudden care about Alabama. They're telling the Governor, "Shame on You"..Human Babies deserve the right to be killed.

Source: thehill.com...

We need a list of which pro-murder artists/actors to boycott, by not buying their songs, or movies.

I know right? This whole World has flipped it's lid just since I was a teenager, roughly 20 years ago. Everything is just backward, yet people think it's right. This behavior is just so odd.

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

I have two kids and along with my wife. We have raised them ourselves to the ages of 21 and 18 so far. So yeah, I HAVE taken children into my home. I would expect anyone else who is participating in sex in the first place to be just as responsible.

Well they are not responsible and that is why they want to abort, so if we prevent that and you support it preventing them from aborting then how many of these OTHER kids are you willing to take into your home to support you position?

It's no secret that if you have sex that babies are a very probable side effect. Hence, if you can't raise them...stop having sex or go and relieve yourself in silence (I think you know what I am getting at there).

You have simple answers to what will never happen, and your post basically explains that, so we force people to have these kids, then what? That is why I ask how many are you willing to take in to support your beliefs since as your points suggest your utopia of human existence is impossible.

I'm not trying to attack here, but we can't just push restrictions and then say, well people just need to act better as an answer.

a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

I have two kids and along with my wife. We have raised them ourselves to the ages of 21 and 18 so far. So yeah, I HAVE taken children into my home. I would expect anyone else who is participating in sex in the first place to be just as responsible. It's no secret that if you have sex that babies are a very probable side effect. Hence, if you can't raise them...stop having sex or go and relieve yourself in silence (I think you know what I am getting at there).

I think I get where you're coming from. You did your duty and others should follow the status quo. But, what is the punishment for failing to follow your abstinence advice? Forced birth and parenthood?

a reply to: Xtrozero


I have asked the same question of other posters in one of the other numerous threads on this subject

how many are you willing to take in

Yet to receive a single relevant answer, just deflections.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

I have two kids and along with my wife. We have raised them ourselves to the ages of 21 and 18 so far. So yeah, I HAVE taken children into my home. I would expect anyone else who is participating in sex in the first place to be just as responsible.

Well they are not responsible and that is why they want to abort, so if we prevent that and you support it preventing them from aborting then how many of these OTHER kids are you willing to take into your home to support you position?

It's no secret that if you have sex that babies are a very probable side effect. Hence, if you can't raise them...stop having sex or go and relieve yourself in silence (I think you know what I am getting at there).

You have simple answers to what will never happen, and your post basically explains that, so we force people to have these kids, then what? That is why I ask how many are you willing to take in to support your beliefs since as your points suggest your utopia of human existence is impossible.

I'm not trying to attack here, but we can't just push restrictions and then say, well people just need to act better as an answer.

The same question could be asked about the border crisis, where the Liberals are wanting open borders to bring anyone and everyone over here. Who is going to let them live in their homes? I bet you wouldn't.

The answer is education. Not giving them an outlet to murder as they please? That's a band-aid on a bullet hole. There is an underlying reason as to WHY these girls sleep around so much and give birth to babies that they can just kill with a smile...because some social BS dictates that "it's ok".

If we can teach these girl not to be such..."people persons", then we can cut back on the births and wouldn't have to murder innocent children in the process. You see, back when I was younger, the Liberals hadn't started their campaign of sexual debauchery and degrading the morality of America. People still had values and morals. It's wasn't until Hollywood started baiting little girls with bubble gum pop versions of artists like Brittany Spears, Taylor swift, Katie Perry, Lady Gaga (a bad one) Ariana Grande, Cardi B. and the like....who all started out looking real innocent (to sucker parents into approving of the music and ambiance) and slowly from album to album, they transitioned into filthy, sex fiends. Now, considering the high social value that teens today put on stars (pretty much rules their lives), who do you think those same kids are going to dress and act like? Their Idols.

So, Education is the answer. Perhaps the Liberals should direct their money in that direction, instead of trying to give everything we have to undocumented immigrants for free, using our tax dollars. Education is the start of everything. Certainly, we won't get anywhere at all with YOUR belief system of "Just give up. Kill, Kill, Kill". That is not the answer.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: IlluminatiTechnician

I have two kids and along with my wife. We have raised them ourselves to the ages of 21 and 18 so far. So yeah, I HAVE taken children into my home. I would expect anyone else who is participating in sex in the first place to be just as responsible. It's no secret that if you have sex that babies are a very probable side effect. Hence, if you can't raise them...stop having sex or go and relieve yourself in silence (I think you know what I am getting at there).

I think I get where you're coming from. You did your duty and others should follow the status quo. But, what is the punishment for failing to follow your abstinence advice? Forced birth and parenthood?

Education, instead of giving into this Socialism nonsense, of giving everything away for free to whoever holds their hands out, all on the backs of those who work hard every single day. Education, instead of funding a baby butchering machine, that is Planned Parenthood. Morality also needs to make it's way back, because it was so much better before now. I was there.
As for the rest? We should have never let it get this far in the first place. This wasn't an issue before Hollywood turned all these young women into sexual deviants.

a reply to: dawnstar

I read it; I just reject it.

You sort of made my point that the child is not a part of the woman's body. It has unique DNA from the moment of fertilization. You simply took it farther into ridiculousness. When one example of a viable (capable of surviving the pregnancy with a healthy body) child is born which is so changed genetically that it is no longer human, I will reconsider. That has not happened in recorded history.

You're really clutching at straws with this one.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician

The same question could be asked about the border crisis, where the Liberals are wanting open borders to bring anyone and everyone over here. Who is going to let them live in their homes? I bet you wouldn't.

They want voters at any cost...Don't care the cost to society as we have tons of issues at home with our homeless and poor we could invest in other than the poor across 7 other billion.

The answer is education. Not giving them an outlet to murder as they please? That's a band-aid on a bullet hole. There is an underlying reason as to WHY these girls sleep around so much and give birth to babies that they can just kill with a smile...because some social BS dictates that "it's ok".

I don't agree that girls are just sleeping around with no control that is much different in the last 50 years...each year there is less and less abortions, so something is working. 50% though have more than one and that is where your education might be lacking, but then that group has a lot wrong in their lives that the lack of sex education is most likely the least of their issues.

There are some really dumb MoFos out there that are seriously lacking in just about every aspect of their lives and abortions are just a one example of unlimited issues with them. I don't think they can be fixed outside of a small percentage, and more importantly I don't really want them to bring a child in the world to follow in their footsteps.

a reply to: TheRedneck

That's okay, reject or accept no difference to me I would prefer that any not that human children that pop up be given the same legal rights as anyone else. And the Alabama law allows for the abortion of non-viable pregnancies because of fetal abnormalities.
I see that some of your biddies have decided to throw insults toward woman so I guess the truce is over. Time to get mean and nasty. Don't take it personally.