FBI's Steele story falls apart:

I don't know about you guys, but I'm really getting sick of all these agencies being used against us, paid for by us.

Illegal courts like fisa, the spying, the media, the actors playing pr, the taxes, the bs.

We are living in clownworld and financing a small group of people.

It's getting real annoying, I've got s#@% to do in life and am surrounded by a system wealth redistributing leeches.

originally posted by: Mandroid7
I don't know about you guys, but I'm really getting sick of all these agencies being used against us, paid for by us.

Illegal courts like fisa, the spying, the media, the actors playing pr, the taxes, the bs.

We are living in clownworld and financing a small group of people.

It's getting real annoying, I've got s#@% to do in life and am surrounded by a system wealth redistributing leeches.

Just like the IRS as Obama and crew used it against Conservative organizations with not much other than a "my bad" for those illegal acts. Now we have a liberal House that once again wants to use the IRS as a weapon that will be deemed, once again, as illegal.

Who knows with the NSA CIA etc etc not to forget the whole Justice department that not only had a blind eye to it all but also direct support as with other events such as Fast and Furious. Seems the common denominator in all this is the total disregard for the legal system

a reply to: matafuchs

How did they lie??

One official saying they doubted the report is in no way proof of malfeasance..


These seems like more misdirectionto me..


For example stroks text messages to his mistress..

If the cop investigating you sends text messages to his mistress saying your guilty. That doesn’t invalidate his investigation..

His personal opinion is irrelevant.. it is only relevant if the officer falsified evidence..


Trumps own inspector general report said there was no evidence any fbi decision was effected by political bias...

a reply to: JustJohnny

They used unverified Intel as the basis for unmasking United States citizens. This is the same group within the FBI lost the notes regarding a meeting with the ICIG regarding emails of Hillary's which were forwarded to a foreign intelligence (Chinese) organization.

Peter Strzok was central to all of this and should be facing seditious conspiracy charges.

a reply to: JustJohnny

You do realize they are on record saying without the Steele dossier they would not have gotten the FISA warrant right?

Notably, a primary component of the Page application was the Steele dossier—without which, according to FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, no FISA warrant on Page would have been sought.

www.theepochtimes.com...

Strike 3.

a reply to: JustJohnny

It means they submitted evidence they knew to be false to get warrants. It is like a cop planting coc aine in your car to get a warrant against you.

a reply to: JustJohnny

You are part of the problem. All you found in the following statement and the only thing you can question is who lied?

A Domestic Intelligence Agency used private warrants to gain knowledge and find leverage on a private citizen who is running for public office. It sounds like a by line of a HBO series.

There. Take lied out of it. What is the f'n difference? So it is OK for Obama to allow the FBI to do what they? That is where it came from. How do we know this? Because not ONE person has flipped and they still feel protected which should scare the # out of us as a country.

and they did not find a thing that TRUMP, who was being investigated, did wrong.

a reply to: JustJohnny

Oh good frick'n God !! 😆

originally posted by: JustJohnny
If the cop investigating you sends text messages to his mistress saying your guilty. That doesn’t invalidate his investigation..

No, but when they text saying you are innocent, and they have an insurance policy against you it just might.

Here is the text, and the actual context of it given by Page, admitting the text in 2017 was referring to there being nothing to the investigation.

That passage was transmitted on May 19, 2017. “There’s no big there there,” Strzok texted.

The date of the text long has intrigued investigators: It is two days after Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein named special counsel Robert Mueller to oversee an investigation into alleged collusion between Trump and the Russia campaign.

Since the text was turned over to Congress, investigators wondered whether it referred to the evidence against the Trump campaign.

This month, they finally got the chance to ask. Strzok declined to say — but Page, during a closed-door interview with lawmakers, confirmed in the most pained and contorted way that the message in fact referred to the quality of the Russia case, according to multiple eyewitnesses.

thehill.com...

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical

They used unverified Intel as the basis for unmasking United States citizens. This is the same group within the FBI lost the notes regarding a meeting with the ICIG regarding emails of Hillary's which were forwarded to a foreign intelligence (Chinese) organization.

Peter Strzok was central to all of this and should be facing seditious conspiracy charges.

Not to mention the 99-pg ruling on FISA Abuse by Judge Collyer.

The presiding judge of the FISA Court is Rosemary M. Collyer.

She is the judge who wrote the 99 page April 26, 2017 Memorandum Opinion and Order regarding the findings by NSA Mike Rogers.

This FISA Court ruling, unsealed by Director of National Intelligence Dan Coates, revealed some grave abuses. From the FISA Court ruling:

The October 26, 2016 Notice informed the Court that NSA Analysts had been conducting such queries in violation of that prohibition, with much greater frequency than had previously been disclosed to the Court.

The Court ascribed the government’s failure to disclose the IG and OCO reviews at the October 4, 2016 hearing [Obama’s NSD Director John Carlin – NOT Rogers] to an institutional “Lack of Candor” and emphasized that “this is a very serious Fourth Amendment Issue”.

A non-compliance rate of 85% raises substantial questions about the propriety of using of [Redacted – likely “About”] query FISA data.

There is no apparent reason to believe the November 2015-April 2016 period coincided with an unusually high rate.

The FBI had disclosed raw FISA information, including but not limited to Section 702-acquired information, to a [Redacted].
Is largely staffed by private contractors.

The [Redacted] contractors had access to raw FISA information that went well beyond what was necessary to respond to the FBI’s requests.

The FBI discontinued the above-described access to raw FISA information as of April 18, 2016.

Their [contractors] access was not limited to raw information for which the FBI sought assistance – and access continued even after they had completed work in response to an FBI request.

The FBI had given the information to the private entity [Redacted] not to an assisting federal agency.

The Court is nonetheless concerned about the FBI’s apparent disregard of minimization rules and whether the FBI may be engaging in similar disclosures of raw Section 702 information that have not been reported.

The improper access granted to the [Redacted] contractors was apparently in place [Redacted] and seems to have been the result of deliberate decision-making.

themarketswork

Once they got away with killing JFK the deep state became the largest criminal enterprise in the world. Then came this "clown" Trump. The Teflon Don. They never saw him coming. He is rubber, they are glue. It's Cosmic. Throw in a brilliant & constitutional badass Barr and bump it an ungloved Horowitz and I'm thinking there's actually gonna be hell to pay this time.

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: vinifalou
a reply to: shooterbrody

I'm sure no Democrat will acknowledge this, instead they'll either claim it's false or ignore the topic.

Nice find tho, seems like those people running the FBI back then had no problem in using false information to get the FISA warrants.

But hey! Whatever it takes, right?

Why is it instantly true if it supports your wingerism?

Why would you try to STILL doubt it after all this evidence??????

a reply to: shooterbrody

Re: saraacarter.com...

Spot-on ShooterBrody!

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

When did struok text saying trump was innocent?!?!

Never..

That is the rush Limbaugh interpretation of a text ridiculously too vague to assign a specific meaning to..

“There is no big there there” doesn’t mean he is innocent..

It means they do not yet have a smoking gun from stroks opinion..

People keep pointing to events like this as though it is proof of something it is not..


Assuming strok did ANYTHING illegal then why isn’t he being prosecuted??

Trump runs the DOJ..

They are asking us to believe both that all these felonies were committed and that trumps DOJ is choosing to forgo the validation that holding any of these people accountable.

a reply to: shooterbrody

It's not that sad or depressing to see this level of repulsive corruption within our government.

Really, we shouldn't be surprised.

What is disheartening, is the support our corrupt government has by the people!

I mean, it's like they want a bigger corrupt government.

That boggles the mind!

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: JustJohnny

Oh good frick'n God !! 😆

Lol. Do you have a reply??

Lookie what Gateway Pundit found.

In 2016, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec made the following catch in Steele's Dossier:

She [Kavalec] quoted Steele as saying, “Payments to those recruited are made out of the Russian Consulate in Miami,” according to a copy of her summary memo obtained under open records litigation by the conservative group Citizens United. Kavalec bluntly debunked that assertion in a bracketed comment: “It is important to note that there is no Russian consulate in Miami.”
Kavalec, two days later and well before the FISA warrant was issued, forwarded her typed summary to other government officials. The State Department has redacted the names and agencies of everyone she alerted.

So, we have evidence that the DOJ submitted the Steele Dossier as evidence knowing it was, at best, dubious and unreliable.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: shooterbrody

How is this relevant when the Steele dossier was not the only thing submitted when applying for the fisa warrant???

Trump’s claim was that the Steele dossier was the primary/only evidence used to obtain the fisa warrant..


Well that wasn’t the case...

So how is one fbi official doubting the validity of the Steele dossier relevant? [/quote


please list what evidence was used to gain the third attempt at a FISA warrant for Carter Page. Remember, the first two were denied. Thanks in advance for listing the evidence you claim exists.

Here read these may open up your eye's a bit page 3 of 11

www.scribd.com...

edit on 9-5-2019 by Trillium because: (no reason given)

a reply to: JustJohnny

I quoted his exact text. Sorry do not pass go.

a reply to: JustJohnny

I now you're never going to get it, but what the heck? Call me a masochist.

Imagine a black guy driving a nice car down the road when he is pulled over by a cop (black guy represents Trump, cop represents Strzok). The cop then orders the black guy out of his car and tells him he is under investigation for grand theft auto (Strzok started an investigation into Trump) because he has direct evidence that cars have been stolen in the area (Strzok's excuse for starting the investigation was that Russians interfered, not that he had evidence Trump worked with the Russians to interfere).

The cop now begins a full police investigation into the black guy's family, friends, how much money he makes... then we all find out the cop has been sending racist messages to his girlfriend... using the 'N' word, saying black folks in a store he went to smelled, and swearing he wouldn't let this black guy get away with anything (almost verbatim renditions of the Strzok-Page texts). So he gets transferred off the case and a high-ranking cop (representing Mueller) takes it over. The high-ranking cop spends two years investigating the black guy for grand theft auto... in the process he gets convictions on several of the black guy's friends for running stop signs and drunk driving. In the end, though, he cannot prove that the black guy stole the car, but still tells the DA the black guy kept acting guilty so he probably just got away with stealing a car (Mueller releases his report). The DA decides that with such little evidence he probably couldn't get a conviction, and the black guy has had enough trouble anyway, so he refuses to press any charges (Barr refuses to follow through on Obstruction of Justice charges).

You're sitting here defending the racist cop. You do realize that, right?

TheRedneck