Washington post and CNN getting sued big time

How and why was the video that they obtained edited in such a way so as to make their version of events believeable. In reality the “event” they covered was not news worthy. They manufactured a racially charged narrative that used the differences in race of those who were portrayed as the crux of the issue. Likining it to past raciest practices in the times of segregation.

From what I seen nothing like that happend what so ever. From what I seen a confused native american guy beat a drum in front of a confused white kid. While some crazy over the top Black Isrealites shouted some actual racist remarks and hate. It’s just not the kind of racism the media likes to show however so they didn’t use that part instead they just created their own versions of events.

Prooving the defamation will be easy, prooving the intent not so much.

The media can destroy a life in a heartbeat. Sometimes deservingly so. Sometimes they augment the reality of a situation to justify it.
a reply to: Sookiechacha

a reply to: Athetos

“Why didn’t they stop and just take an hour and look through the internet and find the truth and then report it? Maybe do that before you report the lies. They didn’t do it. They were vicious. It was false. CNN will be sued next week and the dollar figure in the CNN case may be higher than it was in the Washington Post.”

“I expect because of the way they went after Nicholas so viciously that the claim for his reputational damage will be higher than it was against the Washington Post. The Post was $50 million for the reputational damage and we can discuss why that figure, $200 million in punitive damages,” Wood told Levin.

Wood said punitive damages are designed to punish and deter the alleged actions of the defendants.

www.theepochtimes.com...

originally posted by: Athetos
From what I seen nothing like that happend what so ever. From what I seen a confused native american guy beat a drum in front of a confused white kid.

Except that's not what happened.

The indian guy walked into the crowd of teens beating his drum (for whatever reason), then that arrogant little turd blatantly went toe to toe with the indian and was aggressively starring the guy down.

Don't get me wrong, the whole incident was ridiculously overblown by the MSM. I don't personally see how it was worthy of getting even 10 seconds of play time on some random local news network, let alone the near 24 hours of constant coverage it got from CNN.

But still, after 5 pages of nothing but emotionally charged opinions on this thread, not one person has been able to state what CNN actually "lied" about.

So unless over reporting on a non newsworthy story is a punishable offence... I highly doubt this lawsuit has any chance of succeeding.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

But still, after 5 pages of nothing but emotionally charged opinions on this thread, not one person has been able to state what CNN actually "lied" about.

It's called a "lie of omission." That's showing only a small part of an entire occurrence to try and frame the occurrence in a certain light.

That contrasts with the lie you just told, which was a direct lie, to wit:

The indian guy walked into the crowd of teens beating his drum (for whatever reason), then that arrogant little turd blatantly went toe to toe with the indian and was aggressively starring the guy down.

Nicholas Sandmann was in a group of students who were being verbally abused by the "black hebrews" (still not sure what their issue is), when Nathan Phillips ("the indian") approached him beating the drum in front of his face and chanting. Sandmann just stood there. Phillips was the one who approached Sandmann. It's all in the complete video.

As for the look on his face, how exactly was he supposed to look? Some crazy dude walks up in his face and starts chanting something unintelligible while beating his tom-tom... heck, I'd have been looking around for some men in white jackets to take him back to his rubber room!

TheRedneck

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Do you think this would be an issue if the kid wasn't wearing a MAGA hat?

Yours seems the most emotionally charged of all the posts so far. So simply looking at a person with a look of stupid teenager is aggressive?

I try to image what I would feel if I was in the place of the native guy. I wouldn’t feel like they were aggressors or even a threat in the least.

They lied and said he was blocking the path of the drummer implying is was due to racial reasons. When in fact the drummer approached them and by his own volition went into the middle of the group and singled out sandman.

The mega hat played an important role at the time in the narrative the media was try to creat and is still trying to creat that support for Trump and the Mega hat=racism


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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Do you think this would be an issue if the kid wasn't wearing a MAGA hat?

That depends on what kind of issue you're talking about.

If you mean would there have been such a media circus trying to destroy this kid, no, it wouldn't have fit the MSM agenda and the black hebrews and Nathan Phillips probably wouldn't have bothered them.

If you mean that one group of people are going around telling people what they can and can't wear using violence and racial slurs and intimidation to enforce their view of morality on others, yes, it would have been an even larger issue. Bigots and Fascists rarely are satisfied with a single 'win'; they become emboldened each time they get their way.

I for one will wear what I want. I am no one's slave. If you wish to live under that kind of oppression, that's on you.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

You should know from my posting I'm no slave, I believe this would not be a story had he been wearing a cap that wasn't a MAGA symbol, it's not about fashion it's about politics.

Hispanic unemployment has just reached a record low
Wage growth is now at 3.4% , best in ten years
Unemployment has been at 4% or less for over a year, that hasn’t happened in 50 years

How ANYONE can view the message of MAGA as a negative is astounding.

Thanks cnn, thanks npc programming.
Manipulating the easily manipulated seems to be working for them.

I’m jus thankful the easily manipulated are so few.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

i said I wasn't a slave, not that you were. I left that as an open question for you to ponder.

You're right that it is not about fashion but rather politics. That makes it even worse. This was a clear attempt to stifle the free expression of Sandmann's personal position, the very thing that the 1st Amendment is there to protect. It was just another Fascist attempt to force the opposition into hiding by intimidation and threats, and perhaps by violence itself if necessary. That is the slavery I mentioned. If one cannot express their views on how their government should be run, one is a slave of that government, and by extension of those who run the government and were likely the ones behind the intimidation in the first place.

Since you brought up your personal views, I will ask you directly: do you believe intimidation, threats, and even violence is an appropriate way to handle political differences of opinion?

TheRedneck

“Think how we think or we’ll attack you”
It’s what fascism is all about.

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I guess that addresses the very nuts and bolts of the issue, no I dont think it's acceptable way to handle political difference

However why should political difference be any different to any other type of difference? You go into a public arena and pick fights with people that disagree what's gonna happen....

I have an anecdotal experience I want to share, I was on the beach the other day, my now ex girlfriends dog followed me up past the signs where dogs arent allowed, I had some annoying woman chastise me and attack me for allowing dogs past the sign, I explained it wasn't my dog yet she still carries on till I quite abrasively told her to mind her own #ing business .

I guess my point is people should be wanting the courts to decide what is and isn't acceptable, this is the very descriptive of a social justice warrior, having an opinion is a well and good until you try to force that onto others.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

OK, I can understand that attitude. Now I ask you, which party was trying to force their views onto others in this case? The guy wearing a hat, or the guys trying to intimidate him because of it?

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

I can't honestly answer that question as the media in all its glory pushed the agenda, I doubt either party expected it to be so blown out of proportion, seriously who goes out to get heated up like that to become a public spectacle?

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

who goes out to get heated up like that to become a public spectacle?

Nathan Phillips.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Well perhaps Nathan Philips and Tommy Robinson should share a cell ,birds of a feather.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Well perhaps Nathan Philips and Tommy Robinson should share a cell ,birds of a feather.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

But backing up a post, the media spin is not the only information that is available. The MSM aired a small portion of the complete video, and that complete video has been posted. It clearly shows the black hebrews were shouting racial and homophobic slurs at the schoolkids, and that Nathan Phillips walked up into Sandmann's face without provocation.

CNN and WaPo (along with the other usual suspects) aired the section of the video starting just after Phillips positioned himself right in front of Sandmann. They then added their own (untrue) narrative of the story, which was that Sandmann was blocking Phillips' attempts to retreat. They also failed to even mention the black hebrews, instead insinuating that Phillips was just an old Indian fellow that wanted to get away from the ruckus being caused by the MAGA hat wearing students. That's why they are being sued, and that is why the suit will prevail.

I find it hard to believe you do not already know this (it has been discussed to death), and makes me wonder why you were not more outraged at the actions of the black hebrews and Phillips. I will give you credit for your condemnation of Phillips now, though.

TheRedneck

Odd, this should be huge "news" but can't find a word on CNN website about it.

I'll wait for CNN to tell me what to think about all of this.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: TheRedneck

Don't get me wrong, I like Avenatti. But I recognize hot air. He had a lot of it. So does Rudy Guiliani.

Listen, I've had my share of legal battles and lawyers. I'm involved in a lawsuit right now, and I didn't hire lawyers who told me they could win my case. I hired a lawyer that understood the difficulties of making and proving my case. The defendants, on the other hand have hired and fired 3 lawyers since we started. They finally have an attorney that respects them enough to tell them the truth!

I dont believe even a small part of this post.
1st off you are an avenatti lover. You had his back on 3very possible thread that came up.
2nd- those poor defendants in whatever silly case you are involved in.... trying to argue facts with someone like you must be exhausting.
But, of course you have no sources for any of your jibberish per normal

Imagine how things would be if the American messiah hadn't lifted the propaganda ban.