Bernie Sanders Enters 2020 Presidential Campaign

a reply to: interupt42

He has some ideas. He has some bad ideas. He is already talking about spending money in one ear and creating more Cabinet members. Obama did that with his Czars remember?

Besides, you know that his idea is already in place...by Trump.

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It would ban all executive-branch officials from lobbying for five years after leaving their government jobs, and impose a lifetime ban on lobbying for a foreign government — one of several promised policies aimed at curbing the influence of lobbyists.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Well, I was amazed that Bernie didn't pull any punches when he said: “We are running against a president who is a pathological liar, a fraud, a racist, a sexist, a xenophobe and someone who is undermining American democracy as he leads us in an authoritarian direction.”

Although I would agree, there are many who would try and excuse Trump.

Although I'm never going to vote for him (I'm not American), he does seem to have a stable history and well thought out platform.

I'm pretty sure that if the Democrats hadn't shafted him, and instead gone with Hillary, there might well have been a different outcome to the 2016 election.

Check this out!

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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Hey ! What About Joe ? ....Run Joe ..............PLEASE !

originally posted by: shooterbrody
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Sanders pointed to the Democratic Party's leftward shift as a reason for a second run. "It turns out that many of the ideas that I talked about – that health care is a right, not a privilege, and that we've got to move toward a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system: very, very popular. The idea that we have got to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour," he told Vermont Public Radio. "When I talked about making public colleges and universities tuition-free and lowering student debt, that was another issue that people said was too radical. Well, that's also happening around the country."

Nobody that actually works and pays taxes wants socialism.

Bernie Sanders On The Issues

Many people are starting to look closer at Denmark, Sweden, Norway, France, Germany, Australia, etc. and are realizing Democratic Socialism as Bernie describes it could actually give them more bang for their buck in tax dollars.

Working people that are sick of their taxes going to perpetual warfare and tax breaks for corporations are starting to warm up to the idea of their taxes going toward a better quality of life for Americans.

Democratic Socialism is socialism through the ballot box, that says changes in the government and society should be through fair elections. Democratic socialism also says that the basic foundations of a society should be provided for through the government, so that the people of that state can have a happy, healthy life.

It does not do away with free markets, private businesses, or your freedom.

A Democratic Socialist is not a Marxist Socialist or a Communist. A Democratic Socialist is still a Capitalist, just one who seeks to restrain the self-destructive excesses of capitalism and channel government's use of our tax money into creating opportunities for everyone.

Democratic Socialism DOES NOT do away with free markets. There's still money, still personal private property, still have the ability to get rich, still the possibility that you fall flat on your face if you don't work hard or just survive if you choose to do the menial or under valued.

There would still be taxes to care for the incapable or people who for whatever reason are temporarily limited and to pay for government and infrastructure.

From Sander's himself_

“The next time you hear me attacked as a socialist — like tomorrow — remember this: I don’t believe government should take over the grocery store down the street, or own the means of production,” he said. “But I do believe that the middle class and the working families of this country who produce the wealth of this county deserve a decent standard of living, and that their incomes should go up, not down.”

a reply to: CriticalStinker

" Like him or not, he is one of the few indicators that there is a healthy resistance to the status quo in this country on both sides. "



Really ? Is this some kind of Advert Mate ? I'm Not Convinced , Tell me MORE ...........

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Really ? Is this some kind of Advert Mate ? I'm Not Convinced , Tell me MORE ...........

I find it fickle and insecure when people are so unwelcome to opposing views and diversity in thought.

It's quite simple IMO, should you dislike or disagree, simply use bullet proof arguement against it.

We deserve so much diversity in options we should scoff at the excess. But we should do so logically and wisely.

IMO.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

So Sorry , being a Capitalist , I just cannot Resist making Fun of Socialist Without a Clue . You Keep What You Kill , Get it ?

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: CriticalStinker

So Sorry , being a Capitalist , I just cannot Resist making Fun of Socialist Without a Clue . You Keep What You Kill , Get it ?

We were one of the first to streamline public education.

It's honestly one of the best cost-benefit things a government can do.

Through our prosperity, things like police and fire response were considered benefits outside of social class. Ideally, we all get the same service.

I'm a capatalist too, we can achieve that expectation with efficiency. And we can be self aware enough to know such thinking benefits the whole, all without being a blowhard socialist.

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Well, I was amazed that Bernie didn't pull any punches when he said: “We are running against a president who is a pathological liar, a fraud, a racist, a sexist, a xenophobe and someone who is undermining American democracy as he leads us in an authoritarian direction.”

Although I would agree, there are many who would try and excuse Trump.

Although I'm never going to vote for him (I'm not American), he does seem to have a stable history and well thought out platform.

I'm pretty sure that if the Democrats hadn't shafted him, and instead gone with Hillary, there might well have been a different outcome to the 2016 election.

More good reasons not to elect him. Trump is not a racist, a sexist, xenaphobe, or authoritarian.

Anyone that believes any of that has tds and cannot back up a single one of those claims. So we can add mental illness to Bernie’s issues apparently.

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Pathological liar?

No?

a reply to: CriticalStinker

" We were one of the first to streamline public education. "


True , and look what the Country has become because of it , Chattel to be Taxed without Complaint . Replace WE with " I " and you Might see a Difference of Opinion there ..........

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: CriticalStinker

So Sorry , being a Capitalist , I just cannot Resist making Fun of Socialist Without a Clue . You Keep What You Kill , Get it ?

We were one of the first to streamline public education.

It's honestly one of the best cost-benefit things a government can do.

Through our prosperity, things like police and fire response were considered benefits outside of social class. Ideally, we all get the same service.

I'm a capatalist too, we can achieve that expectation with efficiency. And we can be self aware enough to know such thinking benefits the whole, all without being a blowhard socialist.

How’s all your friends over at the Fabian Society

a reply to: CriticalStinker

What? a convicted liar and turncoat to his own followers,if he has any followers left,lol last election,and these Fing pop up ads on here are out of control,what a budget website

I think Bernie is the only Democrat who does NOT want to take down existing physical barriers between U.S. and Mexico.

It won't be Bernie this time. And I supported him last go-round. And although I supported him, I was well aware that he's got his issues when he gets behind the podium. In truth he has a bit of a problem of being a bit too hyper-focused. Yes, the issue of the corporatocracy running this country and the fact that the deck is stacked in the favor of the 1% is a huge problem, but it isn't the only problem. And no matter what question was asked of Bernie, he would get a bit too flailing-old-man and rant about the 1%. Again, yes, that is a problem, and perhaps if that problem is solved a lot of other will be somewhat alleviated, but there are other problems to address and frankly the dude is too old to be able to be on-point in the moment. The left needs the newer blood. Faster, quicker-thinking blood. And someone that can shut Trump down. Bernie is going to be too distracted to nail Trump on his shortcomings (if in a debate with him). The fire just isn't going to be there among the younger generation for Bernie in the same way that it was last time. But until we get into Dem debates everything is going to be a bit up in the air.

Democrats better be careful and cull the field on candidates, too many will just siphon off enthusiasm, and garble the message they must get to moderate voters. Think Bernie has a place, but doubt he can sway enough people to overcome Trump. Tulsi Gabbard think will get out the female vote

originally posted by: shooterbrody
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Nobody that actually works and pays taxes wants socialism.

Really. What about those who are working 3 jobs just to scrape by?

He raised 4 million the first day, putting him more than twice the next highest dem candidate on day 1, kemala Harris. So seems he still has some supporters. Also his average contribution was $27, all from individuals. The msm is already starting their negative campaign against him, just like they did with him and trump last time, to attempt to paint him as unelectable. They said that about them both last time too. He’s practically the poorest long term politician in office, is the only real anti establishment candidate, and is arguably the only person in elected government who is both honest and a decent human being. My thoughts.

Bernie Sanders is America's best bet for leading change to get us out of the quagmire we face today. He is going to get serious pushback from the wealthy because he wants a better America for everyone, whereas they want a better America for only themselves. I realize that many of you will resist Bernie and not even hear him out as a result, but I implore you to at least see what he stands for. His platform is far reaching and readily achievable. He actually has detailed plans on most issues already. The problem in America is not that we do not have the will to make change, but that the de facto two party system lead by alt-right Republicans and neoliberal corporate Democrats keep the people divided. We are weak divided. Take a serious look at what Bernie stands for and think about those issues, how they might affect your family and friends. His proposals are called left, socialist, etc.; yet the majority (over 60% of people of all party affiliations) want these things. That makes his proposals mainstream, not left. But, most importantly, Bernie has espoused these ideas consistently throughout his political career, for decades. He believes in them, and is not just making these proposals for political expediency. In other words, he will follow up his campaign promises with action, whereas all other candidates will make similar claims but sell out if elected. That's what happens time after time, and why the people keep losing time after time. Please don't let the wealthy continue screwing us. I'm sick of it. I ain't no whipping boy.