An End To The Moon Conspiracy!

Originally posted by pepsi78

So what you are saying is that somebody who you can't quite remember, along time ago, said something that you can't quite remember, so CASE CLOSED????

My suggestion is that you stop presenting so much evidence as it is overwhelming the group

Why don;t you stay on the subject

in stead of all this mumbo jumbo, and no the case is not closed.

[edit on 18-10-2007 by pepsi78]

I am staying on the subject. As a matter of fact, I am simply responding to your post so obviously I am just discussing the subject you posted.

Also, since you state the case is not closed, you obviously are saying you have room to believe that the Apollo missions really happened.

Originally posted by pepsi78
Further more more flaws show up in the lunar tv transmition, how can the rover be moving with the satelite dish and transmit live tv feed , this is imposible, there are such live feeds where the rover is moving and transmiting a live feed from the moon.

The antena must be stable when transmiting half a degree of arc in any direction and they would lose the signal, to think of it, this kind of things happen here on earth when broadcasting tv signals and the satellite is only about 1,000 miles up, but talk about the moon, it's 240,000 away and they are driving on their rover taking turns and going up and down on the rough moon terain while transmiting

Ohh boy not to talk about that the anntena is too weak to send a live tv broadcast, but driving on the moon while transmiting is just too much.

So what you are saying is that since the rover is moving, it can't transmit a signal which can be found by the receiver? So then how do they broadcast signals from flying choppers? From Remotely Piloted Vehicles? etc....

Fair enough, please support your statement with receiver/transmitter strengths taking into account atmospheric anomolies/interference.
What type of reception would be expected based on the dish/antenna strength along with maximum distance it could travel inside/outside the atmosphere?

Thanks.

I will, but second of all any way everything is imposible to acive in the first place since the rover is driving going up and down on the little hils and turning while transmiting live feed, that is imposible, it would result in a signal loss, especaly when transmiting, the antenna has to be fixed.




Third of all , because we are talking about the rover, this brings me to another point, more evidence shows up that the whole thing is fake.
Take this picture of the rover for example.
Where are the rover traks?



I don't see any, wow, did that rover fly there or something? or let's say planted?
Don't argue that some how it did not leave traks due to the soil being some how diferent than some other parts of the suronding area because you can clearly see foot print near the rover, but no rover traks behind it, no rover traks under it, the only way you can obtain this is if you lift it up and plant it there, you can figure this out can't you?


What a scam...

[edit on 18-10-2007 by pepsi78]

Here's a link to a photo showing your little rover tracks.

www.synlube.com...

So what you are saying is that since the rover is moving, it can't transmit a signal which can be found by the receiver? So then how do they broadcast signals from flying choppers? From Remotely Piloted Vehicles? etc....

They can do that because there are relays on earth and everything is close , if you go to a country that has no relays and try to transmit back the information it's very dificult I asure you, havent you seen war corespondents that broadcast satelite feed , that transmision is very poor with interuptions.
For example if you transmit from united states to united states it's easy really, but try that from let's say from another part of the world and you will see how dificult it becomes.
Helicopters and cars in motion that you see on tv can do it simply because the area has covrege and every thing can be relayed, havent you seen those poles with big antennas on them?,
Try doing that from the jungle and I asure you will need to point that antenna very acurate , and that it will need to stay that way.
You really have no clue over this aspect.

Originally posted by jfj123
Here's a link to a photo showing your little rover tracks.

www.synlube.com...

but I was talking about the other picture, the one I put up, why does it not show the traks in that picture?
Where are the traks in that picture?

And where are the traks in this one?




And this one




And this one





You just show a picture with the rover having traks, that is not debunking anything really.
Can you please explain why the rover has no traks

Then I guess it is a hoax, since you can't explain anything.

Originally posted by pepsi78

Originally posted by jfj123
Here's a link to a photo showing your little rover tracks.

www.synlube.com...

but I was talking about the other picture, the one I put up, why does it not show the traks in that picture?
Where are the traks in that picture?

And where are the traks in this one?




And this one




And this one





You just show a picture with the rover having traks, that is not debunking anything really.
Can you please explain why the rover has no traks

Then I guess it is a hoax, since you can't explain anything.

It goes both ways. You showed me a picture. I showed you one. Why don't you debunk mine? Explain why my picture HAS tracks. Oh by the way, there are a ton of pictures showing tracks.

So the balls back in your court. You see, I'm not trying to debunk anything as I know the moon landing was real. Debunking the moon landing is your job. I'll make it nice and simple. Innocent until proven guilty.

It goes both ways. You showed me a picture.

Your hilarios is that the best you can do?

I showed you one. Why don't you debunk mine?

I would say okay your picture is okay, but how about the ones that are trakless, how do you explain that? can you explain them?

Explain why my picture HAS tracks. Oh by the way, there are a ton of pictures showing tracks.

So here is my explanation
Because in those pictures the rover moved around?
And in the other ones it didint? and it was placed there?
I guess that is the explenation unless nasa comes with some hocus pocus crap and try to give an explenation that I haven't seen so far.

So the balls back in your court. You see, I'm not trying to debunk anything as I know the moon landing was real. Debunking the moon landing is your job. I'll make it nice and simple. Innocent until proven guilty.

Yes of course , how stupid of me.
Seriosly are you even going to try to answer the question.
Here I will answer yours even if it's pointless, my answer is because the rover moved around where ever it was.
No can you answer me why in those pictures the rover has no traks?
And stop trying to deviate this thread, any one would notice it, and answer the question.
The question once again is, where are the traks from the rover in those pictures, and stop acting like a 12 year old boy, because this sort of answers from you really put's a bad image on the moon landings
I guess it is a hoax then, can't answer it's a hoax.



[edit on 18-10-2007 by pepsi78]

Also keep in mind satellites in orbit are not stationary but my satellite TV is crystal clear.

Originally posted by jfj123
Also keep in mind satellites in orbit are not stationary but my satellite TV is crystal clear.

They are geo stationary, that means it moves along with the geographical position that what geo stationary means, so there is your answer, unles you got a house on weals then of course you can recive the broadcast, and what you are doing any way is downloading the feed , you only got a reciver on that antenna, your area has realays for covrege, and any way you are not transmiting anything, it would afect you anyway, try moving that antena around see what happens, my guess you will get a messy transmision.

For comunications two ways , that means upload and download, a specialist would come to point the antenna in the exact spot it needs to be, and of corse it would be fixed, and your telling me they drove on the moon 240.000 miles away in the rover while turning around and hoping whie they transmited a live feed.
This is a joke.




[edit on 18-10-2007 by pepsi78]

reply to post by pepsi78

OK here are some thoughts
Maybe the inflatable tires are like Gator tractor tires in that they don't leave much of a footprint unless the sand is very soft.
Maybe the photo was faked by someone that has problems dealing with reality.
Maybe the rover didn't move in that direction so it didn't leave tracks.

Why not ask NASA and see what they say?

According to you, NASA personnel are super intelligent as they are able to create and cover up the biggest hoax in earth's history but too stupid to remember to leave tire tracks.

Thats clown logic. FUN BUT USELESS )

Originally posted by pepsi78

Originally posted by jfj123
Also keep in mind satellites in orbit are not stationary but my satellite TV is crystal clear.

They are geo stationary, that means it moves along with the geographical position that what geo stationary means, so there is your answer, unles you got a house on weals then of course you can recive the broadcast, and what you are doing any way is downloading the feed , you only got a reciver on that antenna, your area has realays for covrege, and any way you are not transmiting anything, it would afect you anyway, try moving that antena around see what happens, my guess you will get a messy transmision.

Satellite TV doesn't use relays. Also, they have mobile satellite and phone satellite that do not use relays

OK here are some thoughts
Maybe the inflatable tires are like Gator tractor tires in that they don't leave much of a footprint unless the sand is very soft.

There are foot prints near the rover, so it does not explain it, the foot prints are clear and visible.

You say inflateble? did you just say that? because then there is another problem, they would not stand the presure and blow up on takeoff
the rover was mounted on the external part of the ship.

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Maybe the photo was faked by someone that has problems dealing with reality.
Maybe the rover didn't move in that direction so it didn't leave tracks.

No the pictures are not fake, and the rover had to move, it what ever direction it moved it should have traks behind it, and were talking about not one picture but a couple of them.

Why not ask NASA and see what they say?

Because I'm asking here because this is a thread debating the apollo moon landings.

According to you, NASA personnel are super intelligent as they are able to create and cover up the biggest hoax in earth's history but too stupid to remember to leave tire tracks.

Sorry but that does not answer it, it does not answer how it got there with out leaving any trace, there are footprints all around the rover, so I can only imagine that it was placed there by something.

I think if you took a picture of a car with tracks in the mud, you could find a location from which to take a picture so that it looks for all the world like it got there leaving no tire tracks.

It might not be easy and might take uneven ground to hide some of the track.

But since this could happen, I believe that 'absence of obvious tire tracks in a few photos' is not evidence of anything. Even if none of the parked rover photos showed any tracks leading up - though very curious - it's not solid evidence of anything since it could happen by chance due to the photograph angles or something.

I also have to agree that even a total bungler is unlikely to make that kind of error.

Satellite TV doesn't use relays. Also, they have mobile satellite and phone satellite that do not use relays
It does not matter any way because you are not ttransmiting anything with that dish of yours so it does not explain anything, but any way you recive a clear tv signal because your dish is fixed in the back yard on on top of your house on a fixed possition , try placeing it back wards or down on the ground and tell me what you see on your tv set, and by the way the signal is relayd, maybe not with antena pols but are relayed on satelite level that sits on an arch around the earth, the united states just has more covrege from the satelite, because remeber you are not transmiting but reciving, satelite transmition waves are just more present in your area and in united states, I told you if you went in another part of the world it's a whle diferent thing.


And transmiting and reciving is not the same thing, also radio waves die out not as in 100% but they do become undetectable , so unles you aim that antena and hold it on fixed possition I don't see how you can broadcast a live signal.
If I was on mars and pointed the dish in the other direction facing the earth back I would not be able to transmit anything, same go's wih you dish, try placeing it down and you will see you won't get much.
This thing with the rover making turns going up and down is bogus.

Regarding how the helicopters and the cars in motion transmit the signal here is your answer, it's all relayed.

satelite news cast relay.

They just have relays all over the place.

Originally posted by pepsi78
Man never went to the moon...because....that old secretary or what was she..any way that worked for the president in the white house says so, se said "It was all done here on earth, the film on the moon was done here on earth" man never went on the moon and that is about it.

I see you conveniently avoided the mirror issue.

I'd LOVE to hear your excuse for that.

Originally posted by pepsi78

So what you are saying is that somebody who you can't quite remember, along time ago, said something that you can't quite remember, so CASE CLOSED????

My suggestion is that you stop presenting so much evidence as it is overwhelming the group

Why don;t you stay on the subject

in stead of all this mumbo jumbo, and no the case is not closed.

[edit on 18-10-2007 by pepsi78]

the case was never open

Originally posted by Badge01
I think if you took a picture of a car with tracks in the mud, you could find a location from which to take a picture so that it looks for all the world like it got there leaving no tire tracks.

It might not be easy and might take uneven ground to hide some of the track.

But since this could happen, I believe that 'absence of obvious tire tracks in a few photos' is not evidence of anything. Even if none of the parked rover photos showed any tracks leading up - though very curious - it's not solid evidence of anything since it could happen by chance due to the photograph angles or something.

I also have to agree that even a total bungler is unlikely to make that kind of error.

I can't seem to find any mud on the moon, and it is solid evidence, the pictures are clear.
This is crap, you are not debunking anything, all are you saying is angles or something.
Something?

[edit on 18-10-2007 by pepsi78]

the case was never open

Fair enough.
I will present the part in question.