So tell me about the Faustian Pact

For those who believe in this kind of thing, what are your opinions about it? Years ago, anything dealing with magick or the occult would have been met with me laughing endlessly, but the more I research it, the more real and understandable it becomes. I am not looking to make such a bargain, should it even exist, but I want to know the in's and out's of it. Serious inquiries please.

a reply to: CosmicAwakening

I have tried, i always promise blood, then i get nothing and still end up bleeding. Just a bad idea.

Since you're not going to do such a thing I would suggest you first look at Manly Hall's writings on the subject in: The Secret Teachings Of All Ages."

Hall's assertion, in brief, is that such a deal is made with demons/elementals who will basically work for you in the exchange. Although I tend to think who's working for who is a good question in such an arrangement.

A search with "Manly Hall" and "pact with devil" will almost certainly pull up relevant passages.

originally posted by: The GUT
Since you're not going to do such a thing I would suggest you first look at Manly Hall's writings on the subject in: The Secret Teachings Of All Ages."

Hall's assertion, in brief, is that such a deal is made with demons/elementals who will basically work for you albeit for you in the exchange. Although I tend to think who's working for who is a good question on such an arrangement.

A search with "Manly Hall" and "pact with devil" will almost certainly pull up relevant passages.

Oh I love the audio's I have listened to of him, and I do have that book, just have not read it yet. Thanks.

There is just something that tells me we were given a cheat code before we arrived here, to exit this whenever we wanted (not suicide), but I do not remember what it is. If this makes any sense. I would try ctrl-alt-delete but my computer is froze.

You may get what you need/want now, but what about later? Things can be tricky like that.

If you are wanting a covenantal relationship with a spiritual entity, I'd recommend that you look into covenant theology.

No spiritual entity is going to "work for you."

a reply to: CosmicAwakening

It's a fairy tale. There is something close to said pact in the Book Abramelin, not a real pact but rather a collaberation of sorts with the Lords of Hell under Gods command. A fascinating read on it's own.
But if you're not inclined to work hard on your own relationship with God, and live a simple life of a humble vegetarian, Thelema and sigil-magick might be more your thing. They say it comes with a price though, be careful what you wish for!

I believe a semen offering is very important... Satan loves semen almost as much as forensic cops do.

And blood.

And a shrubbery. A nice one. One that's not too expensive.

God won’t help you and neither will Satan. You have to get up and do it all yourself.
Sure lots of people “believe” god helps/helped them same with Satan but the reality is that they helped themselves or were helped by another flesh and blood person.

There is no heaven or hell except for the ones we make for ourselves here on earth.

a reply to: CosmicAwakening

a reply to: Athetos

You're welcome to believe that.

Some however have seen enough proof, coincidence, synchronicity, or whatever you might want call it, to know better.

I understand almost any happening can be pinned on positive thinking, coincidental timing , or just plain luck.

Again some people have true faith. Others have seen absolute proof through their pen eyes. I myself am one who's seen proof of a higher power whatever that might be.

I understand somewhere there is something more powerful than I could imagine. I truly know this. Although many of my questions are still unanswered, my hope is that everyone may one day witness their own proof or evidence. Both humbling and awe inspiring for myself.

The Occult and all that is a game for a very small minority of people. Some may actually take it seriously and some may use it as an excuse t=for bad behaviour.

Faustian pact :

All occult is aimed to break out of the personal script that is played out in the matrix.

Most (but not all) personal scripts protect people from direct harm.

Scripts are protected by key decisions (), involving symbolic death/fear/sacrifice/harm/sexual.

Causal there is no relation between 'blood sacrifice' (like BOI) and consequental syncronicities within the matrix.

However conceptual there is.

Concepts , ideas will realign within the matrix to create a greater potential within the script.

The matrix realigns and a 'darker' simulated reality with a less protective script is rendered.

Strange I haven’t seen a single speck of proof and I’ve been looking for almost 20 years. Curious about god about aged 7 never did find a thing.

I am inspired everyday by real people and events not make believe. We have lots of unanswered useful questions too, why get hung up on an impossible one.

a reply to: Lykan

Just remember the Devil, if you let him ride, the Devil he's gonna want to drive.

originally posted by: frenchfries
Faustian pact :

All occult is aimed to break out of the personal script that is played out in the matrix.

Most (but not all) personal scripts protect people from direct harm.

Scripts are protected by key decisions (), involving symbolic death/fear/sacrifice/harm/sexual.

Causal there is no relation between 'blood sacrifice' (like BOI) and consequental syncronicities within the matrix.

However conceptual there is.

Concepts , ideas will realign within the matrix to create a greater potential within the script.

The matrix realigns and a 'darker' simulated reality with a less protective script is rendered.

I have never seen it put this way before. Interesting. I think I understand what you are saying.

a reply to: CosmicAwakening

Alchemy, essentially.

In this world, with thy earthly life, thou art under heaven, stars, and elements, also under hell and devils; all ruleth in thee, and over thee.

Jakob Böhme

Daemons are actually teachers. Rather than a deal with the devil work with the daemons from The Goetia.

With practice they will work for you, even the lesser lords and high lords. However, do not promise them something you cant offer, and always thank them. Solomon taught us that we power over daemons

originally posted by: Ghostsinthefog
Daemons are actually teachers. Rather than a deal with the devil work with the daemons from The Goetia.

With practice they will work for you, even the lesser lords and high lords. However, do not promise them something you cant offer, and always thank them. Solomon taught us that we power over daemons

I have seen numerous videos claiming this. How names got lost and most of them are not bad, etc. Still territory I know little about and dare not open up a box of sorts. But I love reading and learning about it.

originally posted by: Lykan
a reply to: Athetos

You're welcome to believe that.

Some however have seen enough proof, coincidence, synchronicity, or whatever you might want call it, to know better.

I understand almost any happening can be pinned on positive thinking, coincidental timing , or just plain luck.

Again some people have true faith. Others have seen absolute proof through their pen eyes. I myself am one who's seen proof of a higher power whatever that might be.

I understand somewhere there is something more powerful than I could imagine. I truly know this. Although many of my questions are still unanswered, my hope is that everyone may one day witness their own proof or evidence. Both humbling and awe inspiring for myself.

The synchronicities and so called coincidences in my life lately leave me with no doubt that something is out there, hinting at something, trying to reveal itself in suttle ways. Hard to explain.