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originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: worldstarcountry
The CNC machines are not printing guns, the more accurate comparison is that they are carving the guns the way one would carve a toy from a block of wood.
I said that in the first post you responded too.
They call it a printer but it is like a metal router.
I do not get what the point of the run around is that soo many do when i post facts.
100% nylon guns are out there
Nylon guns are being used in crimes
nylon is a type of plastic..its a polymer
polymer firing pins and springs exist but not for long term use
nylon or plastic guns are not detectable by most standard metal detectors
printed guns whether plastic or metal guns are a threat to gun manufacturers and law enforcement
There is no known way to stop nylon or plastic guns without infringing on several constitutional amendment rights
people can try and spin these facts in what ever direction they want but facts are facts
You're too busy to link to a crime committed with a 100% nylon gun though, right?
originally posted by: Whatthedoctorordered
a reply to: face23785
Indeed
I can literally make a firearm with a milling machine , or even spare parts that would be 100 times safer and more viable than those plastic ones.
originally posted by: BrianFlanders
Well, duh! Ammunition is made out of metal.
The entire point here is whether this technology allows criminals to get their hands on guns that won't be detectable in a metal detector or airport scanner.
originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: howtonhawky
If these things are so easy to get and reliable, for the 50th time, why aren't criminals using them?
originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: howtonhawky
If these things are so easy to get and reliable, for the 50th time, why aren't criminals using them?
originally posted by: howtonhawky
originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: howtonhawky
If these things are so easy to get and reliable, for the 50th time, why aren't criminals using them?
Dude i never said anywhere they are easy to get or that they are reliable.
Criminals are using them.
This has been shown to you!
It has not been 50 times but many times you refuse to accept truth.
These guns can be made without the knowledge of law enforcement but imo the real problem is with the metal printers or lathes that sell for around 12,000$ and are a serious threat to corporate profits.
You found one example, from 2 years ago, of some criminals getting caught with some 3D printed guns.
originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: face23785
You found one example, from 2 years ago, of some criminals getting caught with some 3D printed guns.
lol You think i am in charge of tha gun debate. Get off my back already.... You asked for an example of people using 3d guns in crime. I gave you that and now you are unsatisfied. There are more examples of crime and printed guns but ido not have the resources to scour through databases to prove something to you every time you want to change the debate to the next thing you want someone to provide for you. Do it yourself as i provided and you deny....
Criminals get guns pretty easy and these new weapons pose a threat to places using metal detectors.There are exceptions but those exceptions do not negate the facts.
As another poster pointed out you might do better arguing that even places like airports they miss many guns and stuff.
I was certain you'd be able to find at least one example because I was already aware of the story you posted. I don't deny that you posted a link to one story.
These things aren't a threat.
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: face23785
You found one example, from 2 years ago, of some criminals getting caught with some 3D printed guns.
lol You think i am in charge of tha gun debate. Get off my back already.... You asked for an example of people using 3d guns in crime. I gave you that and now you are unsatisfied. There are more examples of crime and printed guns but ido not have the resources to scour through databases to prove something to you every time you want to change the debate to the next thing you want someone to provide for you. Do it yourself as i provided and you deny....
Criminals get guns pretty easy and these new weapons pose a threat to places using metal detectors.There are exceptions but those exceptions do not negate the facts.
As another poster pointed out you might do better arguing that even places like airports they miss many guns and stuff.
I hate to break it to you, but I was certain you'd be able to find at least one example because I was already aware of the story you posted. I don't deny that you posted a link to one story. Don't make stuff up, please.
Again, the issue here is the narrative that's being presented about these things in the media is false. They're not undetectable. They're not gonna enable terrorists to get into airports. You might do better to read the OP, where I pointed out that TSA already fails to find commercially manufactured guns. These things aren't a threat. Anyone that can print a 3D gun could get a real gun through a straw purchase or theft. That's why there's no problem with criminals switching to these. Why would you want this piece of junk when you could get a real gun? They're a curiosity, nothing more.
originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: face23785
I was certain you'd be able to find at least one example because I was already aware of the story you posted. I don't deny that you posted a link to one story.
contradict much?
You asked for a story and you got one.
These things aren't a threat.
tsk tsk