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I warned that it was putting lives at risk, that it was undermining the democratic ideals of our nation, and that it was eroding one of our country’s greatest exports: a commitment to free speech and a free press.
"I see it. I see the way they write. They're so damn dishonest," Trump said. "I don't mean all of them, because some of the finest people I know are journalists. Really. Hard to believe when I say that. I hate to say it, but I have to say. But 75 percent of those people are downright dishonest. Downright dishonest."”
originally posted by: BrianFlanders
The only impact that Trump is having on the world that I'm worried about is what will come after he leaves office. Absolutely everything that happens at that high level changes everything that comes after. And often not in a good way. The Trump years have been (and will be) chaotic, messy, noisy, crazy times and I have a feeling nothing good will come of that. Reference the Bush years for an example of what's to come. Bush was bad enough and Obama was the aftermath. Trump is probably going to end up being far worse than Bush and the aftermath will be even worse than Obama.
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Words
Well obviously Trumps not trying to suppress the media from saying anything negative about him... His clearly all about freedom of the press.
He simply wants all the other MSM outlets to produce high quality & non-biased journalism, just like his beloved fox news clearly does...
originally posted by: Metallicus
If journalists want to be taken seriously again then they are going to need to restore their lost integrity and start reporting the news instead of editorializing. I rarely see a fair and balanced news story on any network these days. They take what happened and then try to tell you what to think which is bullcrap.
I am old enough to remember when a journalist would simply report what happened and lef the audience to draw their own conclusion. Sometimes at the end of the news program their would be an opinion segment which was clearly labeled such.
These days what passes for the “news” is all opinion and much of what we don’t see reported is as telling as what is considered newsworthy.
Journalistic integrity used to be a thing. Now I imagine you would be laughed at if you tried to use that phrase. It really is sad
originally posted by: Words
originally posted by: Metallicus
If journalists want to be taken seriously again then they are going to need to restore their lost integrity and start reporting the news instead of editorializing. I rarely see a fair and balanced news story on any network these days. They take what happened and then try to tell you what to think which is bullcrap.
I am old enough to remember when a journalist would simply report what happened and lef the audience to draw their own conclusion. Sometimes at the end of the news program their would be an opinion segment which was clearly labeled such.
These days what passes for the “news” is all opinion and much of what we don’t see reported is as telling as what is considered newsworthy.
Journalistic integrity used to be a thing. Now I imagine you would be laughed at if you tried to use that phrase. It really is sad
It’s almost as if ethics and integrity in journalism is an old quaint idea, whereas activist journalism has become the norm.
originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: Words
The MSM should sue trump! He calls facts fake news! Not okay! Of coarse his followers believe everything he says. Lie, after lie.
originally posted by: Words
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Words
Well obviously Trumps not trying to suppress the media from saying anything negative about him... His clearly all about freedom of the press.
He simply wants all the other MSM outlets to produce high quality & non-biased journalism, just like his beloved fox news clearly does...
He has explicitly stated his problem with the media countless times.
Well on this point we could probably both agree... He "explicitly" rants & screams the phase 'FAKE NEWS', every time the press says something negative about him.
I suppose that could be correctly defined as 'explicitly stating'... lol.
Either way you look at it, Trump is no advocate of integrity in journalism... he's simply just aware that their is a lack of integrity in journalism these days, then uses that to play the poor little victim card anytime the MSM paints him in negative light.
Its no different to a criminal who happens to be black, who plays the profiling & racism card when they get caught red handed committing a crime.
originally posted by: seeker1963
originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: Words
The MSM should sue trump! He calls facts fake news! Not okay! Of coarse his followers believe everything he says. Lie, after lie.
You an yours call people Nazi's and White Supremacists for not agreeing with you and your political beliefs, so should those you call those things be able to sue you?
Odd how authoritarian you guys get. You showing up in Portland armed this weekend?
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Words
Sorry.. but I don't feel that constantly ranting the phrase "FAKE NEWS" is either an in depth or compelling argument... nor is it a sign of a strong & mentally competent leader.
...Maybe that's just my "active imagination" speaking though
originally posted by: kurthall
originally posted by: seeker1963
originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: Words
The MSM should sue trump! He calls facts fake news! Not okay! Of coarse his followers believe everything he says. Lie, after lie.
You an yours call people Nazi's and White Supremacists for not agreeing with you and your political beliefs, so should those you call those things be able to sue you?
Odd how authoritarian you guys get. You showing up in Portland armed this weekend?
Typical, you lump everyone from a small group, into, all of us, who wont stand and tolerate his lies. He lies on Twitter, and that is going to bite him.
Muller was looking into trumps tweets last week. You can not lie to the American people, the amount trump does, and expect nothing to happen!