Widow says her former husband's paedophile rings goes to 'highest heights'

a reply to: Skyfloating>>> Believe it. If the truth came out now you'd see DC and the federal government absolutely implode as well as Hollywood and the highest levels of international finance and banking. But there's the old adage about the frog in the pot of boiling water. Drop a frog in a pot of boiling water and it will jump out. Put a frog in a pot of cool water and slowly turn up the heat and it will stay in until its boiled alive. We're seeing that now, they are slowly revealing themselves and getting us to accept it. The Jerry Sandusky Penn State scandal. When that broke the Centre County DA vanished and his computer files were wiped. But there is some hope. They seem to be sacrificing the small fish and the big fish are becoming known. I think Trump has some bargaining power to use against them with what he's learned about. Go to Pizzagate.voat if you want to be red pilled.

a reply to: Skyfloating

She is saying that she could say names but she doesn’t want to because there is an investigation going on and
essentially she cannot name names for any interference in said investigation.

a reply to: Skyfloating

In the nzherald link nowhere does it say he delivered children to politicians.
He wasnt a politician either or any sort of elite. Your posts in years past have shown accuracy. As someone who i have respect for i would ask that you be accurate. I can do without your lumping me in with debunkers

It is extremely offensive
.
I only asked for accuracy.
Is that such a hard thing tp do. You made the claim.

I wonder in your zeal and with our abhorrance towards such behaviour you have not inadvertently allowed your posts and feelings from the Q threads to spill over
Balls over to you

originally posted by: Skyfloating

originally posted by: Jdubious
Maybe OP made edit on source,

No edit on the source was made. He knows that.

Deflections of those kind go along with the subject matter.

Would anyone play devil's advocate or try to run cover for these people?

But they do. Why?

a reply to: Dutchowl

If Trump is using what he knows for political blackmail, then that's corruption. Same if Sessions knows but doesn't order investigations, and prosecute.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Skyfloating

Man do you ever use a real source??

Or just BS compilation sites that don’t employ journalists and have never fired anyone for publishing a fake story??

It's posts like this which should put a poster into a few days of ATS jail. No facts, lying, no research and bashing another posters input/thread. And, we have a whole bunch of people "starring" this moronic post. Says all I need to know about a certain sector of this community.

a reply to: Skyfloating

Thank you! This kind of stuff needs to be exposed to as many people as possible... so when the full truth comes out, it's not going to utterly destroy their minds...

originally posted by: AnkhMorpork

Would anyone play devil's advocate or try to run cover for these people?

But they do. Why?

Skepticism is a good thing. But it wouldnt be my first reaction to this womans tears. A sane reaction might be compassion or investigation, not ridicule and denial. Creepy.

a reply to: Skyfloating

So...when is she naming names?

Surely, there is evidence somewhere. I don't care who they are; all such people need to be rooted out, and permanently removed from society.

a reply to: Autorico

You might want to now a little more as you are on the right path,

If you vote, pay tax or claim welfare you give your authority to the government to do what they deem to be in the best interests of running the country,
Our countries are run on an economic basis as we are all clearly told, In reality this means that it is in the best interests of the country not to pay people a pension and to tax them in as many ways as possible using any way they can think of.
Hence most western countries have an average life expectancy of 68 years If you doubt this just research the use of Uranium and its brothers in our lives,
I have already started researching this so I will make it easy for you and give you some places to begin your research
food is grown in chemical fertiliser,
toothpaste with added fluoride to protect our teeth,
sterilise our food via irradiation,
breathing our air with added iodine 131 strontium and barium as discharge from plutonum producing nuclear power stations
and then you have the chemtrails,
cook our food with non stick coated pans with added fluoride that was banned in 2008 but dupont refused to stop making it until 2015
fluoride is used as a binder in pills or radiation therapy etc,
add fluoride to our water supply to protect our teeth
live near a gas tower then the English ruling classes decided to bury nuclear waste under one gas tower in each location all over the country.

Russia the worst country has a life expectancy of 54 years.
Farmers who before ww1 had lived a reasonable 95 years now only live 49 years due to the poisons our ruling class and therefore our government seeing the government has been filled primarily by the ruling class insist goes into and onto our food.
Japans Life expectancy is probably around the 60 year mark, this is due to the major part of their food being fermented
acetic acid attacks our skin and tissue,
throat and stomach cancer is through the roof in japan
if 50% of the UK population gets cancer then japans must be higher and the use of chemotherapy has such a successful kill rate, 50% of all people who take chemo will be dead within a year and 98% are dead within 5 years
The radioactive cloud from Fukushima the catholics actually seeded the radioactive cloud as it floated over cities intentionally getting the radiation to drop over the more heavily populated areas.
The Japanese government decided to investigate the 858 people who were claiming a pension who were aged over 150 years and the result of this extroadinary japanese longevity resulted in the gov not finding one of these people alive.

Now we need to look a little further down the rabbit hole
every now and again we see announcements that various personalities are pedophiles.
just before david cameron resigned westminster police announced they had staked out and viewed one third of british politicians attending a building in which pedophilia is known to go on.
so when you vote pay tax or claim welfare you are in actual fact giving your agreement to pedophilia.

This is the same as the announcements of the religions being involved in pedophilia,
when we see these announcements like the Chilean bishops or the Australian investigation into All the childrens sports clubs being infiltrated by the catholics and setting up a system of abuse throughout these organisations we are in fact by going into these churches afterwards consenting to this.

Even the people that expose these crimes are being used the catholics practice satanism and one of their rules is that they have to tell people what is going on.

This ultimately means We agree to take the Karma of what these people are doing by carrying on supporting them.
Same as war all militaries are arms of religion and in the same vein we agree to take on the karma of that which is carried out in the support of your chosen religion.

Police speak to wife

Although police confirmed in a statement they had spoken to her regarding the allegations, they provided no futher details of the conversation.

"Anyone who wishes to come forward and speak with us can be assured they can do so in confidence. "Any information which is given to us will be assessed to determine what further steps may be required from a police perspective, particularly appropriate support which can be offered to individuals."

Lets hope so.

"He became a predator, a recruiter, a teacher, a pimp, a ringleader of one of the many child-adult sex rings here in his beloved Tauranga Moana and he took that s*** nationwide with all his contacts in every stream of life.

"They would recruit the innocent ... share them around like a box of beer, consume every last drop and discarding the empty vessels into the gutter, soulless, cold and broken."

The couple were married for 26 years.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight

In the nzherald link nowhere does it say he delivered children to politicians.
He wasnt a politician either or any sort of elite.

First of all, she said "heighest heights", secondly, he was involved in politics, not Show Business, not Industry or any other field.

a reply to: Skyfloating

When someone gets a divorce there will be lots of anger, hatred, and vileness being spewed, but in this circumstance even if it's 10% true it would be overwhelmingly something that needs to be investigated.

Children are gift to the world, they are innocent, helpless, and entrusted to society, in their formative years. When that trust and innocence is abused, it should be met with swift justice so it never happens again.

Adults exploit and bully each other, but when it comes down to children...................Gloves-off!

a reply to: Skyfloating

And now you're ducking and weaving - these are the quotes from the link you provided.

Like I said I dont appreciate by your lumping me in with debunkers where all I ask for is for you to put aside your zeal and at least admit you sensationalized your piece.

He was a regional councillor and a Maori Party candidate.

www.nzherald.co.nz...

He was a regional councillor, Maori Party political aspirant, a commissioner at the Maori Language Commission, lecturer at Te Wananga o Raukawa and Treaty of Waitangi negotiator for Ngati Pukenga.

he was involved in a ring of abusers which goes to "the highest heights you can imagine".

you said

not Show Business, not Industry or any other field.

Did I claim as such? What does that have anything to do with our exchange of posts.
Your games dont wash with me.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight

He was a regional councillor and a Maori Party candidate.

The Maori Party is very much involved in New Zealand politics, as a brief examination on Google will reveal.

You said he wasnt involved in politics.

From the interview I read, I infer that the "highest levels" she's talking about are top members of the Maori Party in New Zealand. There's nothing to indicate she knows anything about other leaders in New Zealand, let alone other leaders throughout the world. In no way is she exposing an "international pedophile ring" as some here seem to believe.

Beautiful thread Skyfloating. You and I are on the same team.

There is absolutely nothing implausible about a 'satanic' elite that has, over centuries of statism and capitalistic adventurism, come to regulate their affective states in ways that permit anything that is desired.

One part of me hears her voice and wonders "what does she know that I don't?" The question really has to do with brain functioning, development, and the way knowledge constellates awareness, and awareness brings forth knowledge. People cannot know that a 'satanic' elite exist without having some sense of what they - as human beings - actually are. They have been conditioned - just as their parents and everyone they relate with - to regurgitate clichés and stereotypes that are used as a way to 'experience oneself as real'. Because predictability and familiarity is at the core of our self-regulatory needs, we experience threatening knowledge - especially of the sort we have no bio-semiotic means to process - as something we need to defend our minds against.

The masses, in other words, are too ignorant of genuinely meaningful things which entail not merely 'knowledge', but knowledge which relates to truth - to awe-mediated states of knowing, which produces a very different relationship to information from ordinary - banal - information.

A healthy metaphysics is one that takes proper account of what causes what. Western occultism and eastern spiritualism is mostly entirely fantasy: there isn't a coherent naturalistic theory for the states-phenomena they seek to describe. Instead, its fuzzy, simplistic, and largely unconscious in its mythogenic nature.

All the time I ask myself: why would someone give greater authority to astrology or horoscopes than attachment theory research and developmental psychodynamics which has all the capabilities of neuroscience helping to 'clarify' the way the mind-brain works in terms of a dynamical symmetry process between the self's intrinsic motivational dynamics (which is developmental) and the world 'out there', which incrementally takes on such affective meaning for us as we grow in age? It's partly egotism (left brain) but ultimately its fear (right brain) - the fear of 'not feeling whole' (i.e. experiencing coherency/familiarity).

I am convinced that this world is a trauma world; and the more conscious people becomeof this traumatological nature, it seems to force a bifurcation - either into a normal, sane human being who puts in the psychological work to heal from a history of trauma, or can push the person to 'double down' on the dissociation and idealization dynamics; sadomasochism now becomes more 'central', which is probably the greatest perversion you can get: taking pleasure in what is fundamentally harmful.

Take that 22 year old Columbia student who during the day, sought to protect child from being sexually abused, only to at night pursue children "0 +" - that is "I have no limit", is how he put it.

This self state seems to be perfectly dissociated from the 'daytime' self-state. Or is there a 'bridge' self state that dabbles in the occult and believes that by 'splitting' the self in this way "power" can be released - akin to stretching an elastic band, but in this case, the self is literally doing the opposite of what it positively avows in another state: the gay-bashing politician who sleeps with male prostitutes at gas stations etc.

More or less, PEOPLE are FUNCTIONS of INTERACTIONS. If this idea is hazy to you, it is because your brain-mind is seeking to protect you from cognitive dissonance i.e. from recognizing the falsity of the value system that motivates you to preserve a #ty belief system.

Geometry is law. Humans are geometrodynamical structures. Mirror neurons are evidence of dynamical objects that 'mirror' the expressed states in objects it has 'mapped' in the past. For instance, a 1 month old baby making a 'sucking face' will respond to another person making a 'sucking face' by increasing/enhancing their own face. Because the mirror neurons of the ACC map the expression of 'sucking' when the baby suckles, when its visual systems 'pick up' a face that makes that movement - a movement which has become meaningful to the baby - the 1 month old reflexively 'represents' it.

Symmetry in complex creatures like us is complex. But the theme of 'sameness' should be simple. Sexual molesting children is abhorent to the extreme. It is fundamentally traumatizing, and fundamentally deforms the self-reflective capacities of an individual because of the raw unprocessed shame it creates.

“Worst still, children abused through psychological manipulation have the power of the social engagement system used against them. People who perpetrate sexual abuse distort children’s regulatory experiences – violating them by offering the very kindness and softness that they would expect from a loving adult. They use the potency of the body’s social engagement system to overcome children’s physiological and psychological sense of safety. They make the experience of danger feel like it is safe. They corrupt children’s neuroceptive capacities. Safety does not feel like it should.” – Stephen Porges, Deb Dana, Clinical Applications of the Polyvagal Theory: The Emergence of Polyvagal-Informed Therapies; Realizing Deep Safety; Joe Tucci, Angela Weller, Janice Mitchell; 94; Norton, 2018

Update:

Man claims he was repeatedly abused by Mr. Black

So much for the claims that she was lying.

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: Skyfloating
Now that the MSM is actually reporting on it, can you still claim its a nutty "conspiracy theory"? Hardly a day passes without some victim or whistleblower coming out on what is going on in our "elite" political class.

Is the conspiracy theory that a new zealand district had a pedo ring?

Last I heard it was basically all of hollywood, the us government, etc etc...

Of course there are pedo rings here and there around the world...hell, lets not even get into the middle eastern affairs. The skepticism is all the US (democrat) politicians were involved in a quasi satanic pedo ring with murder and all sorts like some cheesy 80s horrorporn fanfic.

When you see emails like with "I like all sort of pizzas, but not with hair on my pizza, I hate hair on my pizza".

Maybe that's something you consider a normal email. Consider the person that received said email is potentially being given immunity, and has cannibalistic art, and creepy art with barely dressed minors in strange positions.