Scam marriage, is it ever good?

The next week a pastor from a nearby church drops by and asks us if either of us is willing to marry a woman from another country so they can get their green card. I find out I'm surrounding by people scamming the system

This was off-topic in another thread so started one instead...
In my world we're planning that if there is any sniff of our EU mates losing 'right to remain' after Brexit we will marry them, same sex or otherwise.
I already know who I'm marrying, she is from Czech and a much loved friend anyway so the day at the registry office will be a party with all our friends. There'll probably be multiple weddings between people in my life tribe the same day lol.
Scamming the system for us in these 'new world' circumstances will be needed to 'fight the man'.
I have no shame about it because they are my friends.

...I'd even marry a US friend of mine if she ever needed life critical care and her insurance wouldn't cover it. Get it free here on the taxes we/I have paid in our 'socialist' world. I've told her plenty times.
I will do a scam marriage to help my loved friends, in a heartbeat.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy


What's sad is I have probably seen more 'business" deal marriages work than, those marrying for "love".



As long as everyone is honest with each other, who cares I don't... I have a few friends that got a wife south of the border, it works for them.

I had a good friend come up with a plan (he didn't follow through) about going south of the border finding a woman that didn't speak much English marry her and bring her back to cook and clean etc... soon as she started figuring things out divorce her drop a dime on her with ICE to help along deportation and then go get a new one.

I have no idea if it could have worked, but I laughed way to hard when I heard it.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Blinking 'eck that's some story!
I truly love my potential Czech bride, and we are sometimes intimate, but neither of us would marry each other unless it was to keep her 'right to remain' in the UK. It would be fun though, and we laugh knowing who is marrying who if it comes to it.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy


What's sad is I have probably seen more 'business" deal marriages work than, those marrying for "love".



As long as everyone is honest with each other, who cares I don't... I have a few friends that got a wife south of the border, it works for them.

I had a good friend come up with a plan (he didn't follow through) about going south of the border finding a woman that didn't speak much English marry her and bring her back to cook and clean etc... soon as she started figuring things out divorce her drop a dime on her with ICE to help along deportation and then go get a new one.

I have no idea if it could have worked, but I laughed way to hard when I heard it.

There is an entire industry where INCEL or loser men basically buy mail order brides... typically eastern european or thai women who want to come to the US. The women are usually somewhat younger and attractive. It is purely a business / sex relationship. Eventually, the woman divorces the guy after citizenship is approved and then runs off with younger men.

a reply to: Edumakated

We have similar in the UK but with non-EU women, Russia and Thailand seems to be the gig here.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

That all good and fun until the money runs out, and it always runs out, ask Chicago.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Meh, Britain will bounce along just fine like we have for thousands of years.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

It isn't bad to help a friend out. At least not where I come from. What is sad is that you have to jump through hoops (fake marriage) to do so. I don't think I would personally ever marry someone for the reasons you listed. It doesn't seem right to lock myself into a cage that is too hard to escape without some sort of financial or emotional damage. Fake or not, there will always be some sort of hardship you have to go through in order to cut the ties.

But to be there for a friend is important. It is nice of you to support them when they need you most.

Thanks,
blend

Just keep in mind that she will be able to make medical decisions for you if you are ever unable to. And if she falls in love with someone somewhere down the line, she will be entitled to some of your assets if you divorce her to set her free. At least I think so, not sure about your Country.

a reply to: blend57

Ah would you not be up for it?
I'll do it in a heartbeat for anything important to save a mate. Like I said, my only US friend absolutely if she needed critical surgery or something and her insurance wouldn't cover it, and my Czech love, who is a deep friend, if she ever risks losing 'right to remain' after Brexit.

Whole host of marriages are already arranged if we have to, it's funny how we've all decided who is marrying who among our friends. It's actually made us all realise who we're closest to between EU and UK friends.
I'd love to marry my match if we have to, it will be fun sticking the finger to authorites with someone who I love anyway.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

i think you should consult Bill Burr in this matter looooool

a reply to: Night Star

Oh gosh of course the rights from marriage are similar, but we have absolute trust as friends for years. I can't actually describe the reasons why and the deep link, it would require a new thread lol.
My life tribe is deeply connected, emotionally, socially, and geographically. I trust my potential scam bride massively...couple of mates might have problems though lol.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

No..as I said previously, I would not. But my opinion of the sanctity of marriage is very different from most peoples. It is not traditional in any sense of the word. So, don't pay much attention to it..lol.

I think I just wanted to tell you mostly that it is nice to see you stand up/support your friends. And that we all have different views on marriage and that's ok. Just be careful, as you would with any life changing decision.

Much luck to you!

blend

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

of course not now as i am married and happy but before this??
i would marry someone to help them out for sure. not just any someone obviously.
100%

this has been going n since forever too and will never stop.

a reply to: blend57

Thank you
I just saw that reply in another thread and was desperate to chat about similar things because it is an actual plan in my parts...just in case after Brexit.
I wouldn't do the 'get a few thousand quid' to marry a girl from Russia though, but I have been tempted before, I'm ashamed to admit, easy cash, don't even live with them.
No, my scam marriage would be altruistic in nature.

originally posted by: Edumakated

There is an entire industry where INCEL or loser men basically buy mail order brides... typically eastern european or thai women who want to come to the US. The women are usually somewhat younger and attractive. It is purely a business / sex relationship. Eventually, the woman divorces the guy after citizenship is approved and then runs off with younger men.

this has been going on forever too.
22 years ago i worked with a guy that had a thai mail order bride. she used to #ing beat his ass too.
he would come in all swole up cause she was tuning him up.

hahahahahahaha

a reply to: TinySickTears

Good to read that
Mates is mates, and you ain't mates if you won't bail the other out when you need to.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: Night Star

Oh gosh of course the rights from marriage are similar, but we have absolute trust as friends for years. I can't actually describe the reasons why and the deep link, it would require a new thread lol.
My life tribe is deeply connected, emotionally, socially, and geographically. I trust my potential scam bride massively...couple of mates might have problems though lol.

Lots of people have said that too, and lived to regret it.

a reply to: watchitburn

I'll take being burned if it ever happens. Never been burned by a woman ever, maybe just lucky, or a good judge of who I trust.
My Czech love would never burn me, we've been friends for years and have a deep link I won't go into, but honestly, I'm in a way safer position compared to some mates who have agreed to marry other EU mates.
I don't think anyone will rip anyone off if it comes to a day when we have to do the scam marriages.
I'm a glass half full bloke though

As someone who is celebrating her 26 wedding anniversary today, I find these fake marriages disgusting. I am also not British, but I have lived in the UK for almost 3 decades. Why? Because I love my husband and this country.

I feel these fake marriages make a mockery out of love, loyalty and trust. For you it may just be a game but you are part of a massive problem and what you do is in my opinion almost treason.
If it is a true love story, there are ways to keep someone you love in the country. If all else fails, you move to his/hers.
Sometimes life is unfair. Deal with it. This generation want's it all and it want's it now, regardless of consequences.

This isn't about love though, it is about selfish millennials thinking that life is just one big joke or game. By trying to be rebels they marry willy nilly, prbably thinking they are doing some 'good'. Some marry future terrorists, others marry future doctors. Point is we don't know.

A friend of ours married to stay here by announcing at her place of work who would want to marry her, the cook married her a week later. She fell in love, he [didn't] and ruined her life with drugs and abuse for the next 10 years.

I have no sympathy and I find the idea abhorrent.
Where is the integrity and self respect and more importantly the respect for your fellow countrymen and women?

Marriage is still sacret to some and actually has meaning, not some frigging lefty, unicorn kiddy game to let all and sundry in. FFS!
I am pissed off.