Homeopath “treated” 4-yr-old boy’s behavior problems with saliva from rabid dog

A Canadian mother thought that giving her son rabid canine spit would turn her demon-child into an angel. Some kids have behavior problems, there's no denying that. My personal experience is that many (if not most) parents are to blame for the majority of problems getting their children to "act" the way they expect them to behave. But, children are just small humans with their own brains trying to establish their place in this crazy world- it takes time to learn enough from experience to be able to understand what is appropriate behavior. And, even then, children will express their free-will and intentionally go against what their parents require of them.

There are some brain disorders that might make little Johnny throw tantrums when you tell him it is time to take a nap, but, more often than not, Johnny just doesn't want to miss out on anything even if he is tired and needs to sleep. What should parents do to get their children to behave? Certainly not what this "Homeopath" was doing.

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“Hair of the dog” remedies may do the trick for some hangover sufferers. But health experts say that a Canadian homeopath took the idea too far—way, way too far. Homeopath and naturopath Anke Zimmermann used diluted saliva from a rabid dog to “treat” a four-year-old boy, according to a blog post she published earlier this year. Zimmermann claims that the potentially infectious and deadly concoction successfully resolved the boy’s aggressive behavior, which she described as a “slightly rabid-dog state.”

The tale fits with the scientifically implausible principles of homeopathy. These roughly state that substances that produce similar symptoms of a particular ailment can cure said ailment (“like cures like”) and that diluting a substance increases its potency (“law of infinitesimals”).

Homeopathic drivel The lengthy post unleashed the months-long saga of four-year-old Jonah. The boy presented with aggression and sleeping troubles, according to Zimmermann. He was said to be violent, easily angered, and known for growling at people. He also suffered from fears and nightmares of werewolves, wolves, zombies, and ghosts. When Zimmermann asked him how he feels when he growls, she said that the four-year-old responded: “Like there is a tornado inside me. My spirit is a hurricane!” Zimmermann quickly sniffed out the source of the problem: when Jonah was younger, a dog bit him. That is, Jonah’s mother said that one time a dog accidentally “broke the skin slightly” on Jonah’s hand while it was reaching to get food Jonah was holding.

A bite from an animal, with or without rabies vaccination, has the potential to imprint an altered state in the person who was bitten, in some ways similar to a rabies infection. This can include over-excitability, difficulties sleeping, aggression, and various fears, especially of dogs or wolves. This child presented a perfect picture of this type of rabies state. Most homeopaths would have easily recognized the remedy required in this case.

I have tried Homeopathic "remedies", and I know a few people that use them and would rather die than be treated by "Western Medicine" doctors. Honestly, I thought that these homeopathic cure-all's were completely bunk. But, now I believe that their effectiveness (if any) comes primarily from the INTENT of the person taking the substance. Sometimes what I tried worked, and even worked well, but usually I noticed absolutely no change in whatever symptom I was trying to alleviate.

I'd be interested in hearing:

1. What do you think about Homeopathy? What are your experiences with it?

2. What should happen (if anything) to the woman for treating her child with dog drool? Is it child-abuse or neglect?

3. How have you dealt with a child's behavior issues?

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What lunatic tries to intentionally give their child rabies? I'm not a big proponent of people having their children taken from them but this guy is mental.

a reply to: seattlerat

Homeopathy is the air guitar of medicine.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: seattlerat


What lunatic tries to intentionally give their child rabies? I'm not a big proponent of people having their children taken from them but this guy is mental.

Alternative medicine people(which would just be called medicine of it worked), anti-vaxxers, homeopaths, naturopaths, and other quacks.

a reply to: seattlerat
Like cures like?

Next time I burn my hand on the stove I’ll just shove my arm in the oven. Should work great.

originally posted by: underwerks
Next time I burn my hand on the stove I’ll just shove my arm in the oven. Should work great.

My tum-tum hurts, can you punch me in the liver?

originally posted by: projectvxn
Homeopathy is the air guitar of medicine.

This is my new favourite description of homeopathy.

1. What do you think about Homeopathy? What are your experiences with it?

I think that one case is the exception and not the rule.

Such minority views are very much steering public perception these days all across the full scope of current topics.

By design such will end everyone and everything if continued.

I also think that if you make antibiotics at home then that could be labeled as homeopathy....

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: underwerks
Next time I burn my hand on the stove I’ll just shove my arm in the oven. Should work great.

My tum-tum hurts, can you punch me in the liver?

Only if we can knife fight next time I have heartburn.

Also where in the world does one find a rabid dog?

I thought they were outlawed.

There needs to be a homeopathic remedy for stupidity.
This story makes my brain hurt.
Poor kid.

originally posted by: howtonhawky

1. What do you think about Homeopathy? What are your experiences with it?

I think that one case is the exception and not the rule.

Such minority views are very much steering public perception these days all across the full scope of current topics.

By design such will end everyone and everything if continued.

I also think that if you make antibiotics at home then that could be labeled as homeopathy....

Antibiotics are nothing to do homeopathy. Homemade or not.

a reply to: AccessDenied

This story makes my brain hurt.

opossum milk
or willow bark

originally posted by: seattlerat
1. What do you think about Homeopathy? What are your experiences with it?

For what it's worth, I was prescribed a homeopathic preparation (Eyebright) by a naturopath to deal with a periodic eye thing. I use it...it goes away.
Rabies? Naw, I'd take a pass.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
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This story makes my brain hurt.

opossum milk
or willow bark

Willow bark...eases pain and reduces fevers. Known by First Nations and a natural source for salicylic acid...used in aspirin. Opossum Milk? You can milk those critters?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: howtonhawky

1. What do you think about Homeopathy? What are your experiences with it?

I think that one case is the exception and not the rule.

Such minority views are very much steering public perception these days all across the full scope of current topics.

By design such will end everyone and everything if continued.

I also think that if you make antibiotics at home then that could be labeled as homeopathy....

Antibiotics are nothing to do homeopathy. Homemade or not.

is that your official opinion there mr. genius?

So if i grow my own garlic or make some liquid silver then i am a freakin medical student?

How about if i actually make some penicillin? is my house to be considered a laboratory

originally posted by: underwerks

Only if we can knife fight next time I have heartburn.

Done. Severing your aorta will instantly minimize the effects of heartburn.

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: howtonhawky

1. What do you think about Homeopathy? What are your experiences with it?

I think that one case is the exception and not the rule.

Such minority views are very much steering public perception these days all across the full scope of current topics.

By design such will end everyone and everything if continued.

I also think that if you make antibiotics at home then that could be labeled as homeopathy....

Antibiotics are nothing to do homeopathy. Homemade or not.

is that your official opinion there mr. genius?

So if i grow my own garlic or make some liquid silver then i am a freakin medical student?

How about if i actually make some penicillin? is my house to be considered a laboratory

None of those things is homeopathy either.

originally posted by: projectvxn
Homeopathy is the air guitar of medicine.

I agree for the most part but then again I've seen the results of chemo.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: howtonhawky

1. What do you think about Homeopathy? What are your experiences with it?

I think that one case is the exception and not the rule.

Such minority views are very much steering public perception these days all across the full scope of current topics.

By design such will end everyone and everything if continued.

I also think that if you make antibiotics at home then that could be labeled as homeopathy....

Antibiotics are nothing to do homeopathy. Homemade or not.

is that your official opinion there mr. genius?

So if i grow my own garlic or make some liquid silver then i am a freakin medical student?

How about if i actually make some penicillin? is my house to be considered a laboratory

None of those things is homeopathy either.

oh i see we are dealing with a war of words here... one where people say one thing but mean another...


ho·me·op·a·thy
ˌhōmēˈäpəTHē/Submit
noun
the treatment of disease by minute doses of natural substances that in a healthy person would produce symptoms of disease.

so the most widely known example of homeopathy is........VACCINES by definition.

oh how quaint