When History Repeats: DESTROY THE OLD FOURS!

From my mega-thread "CENSORSHIP: The Universal Language of Dictators":


Censorship Under Mao Zedong (1945-1976):

To read too many books is harmful.
-Mao

Mao era censorship sounds a lot like Soviet censorship, although it went on to have more of an emphasis towards 'culture'. Communist censorship is interesting in that revisions of their own cultural histories is core to the model, meanwhile in their propaganda they had crafted a pejorative term "Revisionism" where "Revisionists" where those whom tried to "water down" Marxism / Communism into ideologically or economically impure heresy.

The goal of the Cultural Revolution was to get rid of the "four olds" ("old customs," "old culture," "old habits," and "old ideas"). If newspapers touched on sensitive topics like these, the journalists were subject to arrests and sometimes violence. Libraries in which there were books containing "offensive literature" would often be burned down. Television was regulated by the government and its goal was to encourage the efforts of chairman Mao Zedong and the Communist Party. Radio was the same way, and played songs such as, "The Great Cultural Revolution is Indeed Good". en.wikipedia.org...

Media censorship in China goes hand in hand with the rise of the communist party in China paralleling with the rise of the revolutionary leader, Mao Zedong. After World War I ended in 1918, Mao quietly started building up forces against the nationalist government that ruled China at the time. In 1927 the nationalist party enforced the “white terror”, a long march that drove the communist party to an area known as Shaanxi Province. The reason the “white terror” occurred was to try to drive away the communists. This idea backfired as the communist party was now all in one place, allowing them to recruit followers and creates a home base. Most people who were loyal to the communist party during the nationalist sweep in China were large supporters of Mao later on[2]. During this time, Mao used tactics such as strengthening the military and using deceiving propaganda. These popular propaganda posters helped enforce that Mao was supposedly creating a patriotic movement as a way to gain followers. Shown in the illustrations, Mao used images to promote himself as a thoughtful leader. Considering all the positive promotion Mao used, the Chinese people were unaware that the rise of Mao was also the rise of communism. Little by little their freedoms were being with held and censored[3]. During World War II, the nationalist and communist parties of China teamed up to fight against Japan. As China was recovering from the War, Mao’s Red Army attacked the People’s Liberation Army, the Nationalist Party, in 1949[4]. Mao took control of the big cities in China, prompting a civil war. The communist party promised to redistribute land to the citizens if they won the war, which gained the interest of most of the “common” people. Eventually the communist party won and took control of China, making Mao the new leader. Since Mao was a well-liked leader, the Chinese were oblivious to the fact that his dictatorship entailed censorship. history105.libraries.wsu.edu...

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Well the Nazi's went after Jewry, ideology and "degeneracy" (as they saw fit), they didnt try to wipe out their cultural heritage.

Correction, the Nazis when after 'enemies of state' in the name of jewish hatred. We are doing the same thing now to Islam, calling it a war on Terrorism.

Neither Terrorism or Islam are the goals, the goal is to dominate the ME in order to exploit the regions natural resources.

The war on terror back home is to make resistance of, by and for the people as difficult as possible.

You know the Patriot Act and its real goal as well as anyone.

a reply to: introvert

Right. All of this from the person whom I've lost count how many times you've said "There's no such thing as SJW's, its all a myth".

The universities are a network of an overt organized Neo-Communist social engineering campaign, the professors and students run off all dissenting viewpoints from students to speakers to faculty. Where cultish Identity Politics () is more important studies and obsession than actual classical academics.

(Identity Politics is where the Nazi's METHODOLOGY of groupthink mind control is more relevant in the SJW Method discussion then the Commie style. Nazi's were about merging the race + ethnicity + political ideology + "World Identity" [] + religious identity into the Party Identity VS. Commies more simple in merging culture + political ideology + class into the Party Identity.)

[Note that "World Identity" means Nationalism, or Globalism, where the two are interchangeable in terms of the groupthink identity effect is has on a subject.]

And far-right/alt-right people don't suffer from "identity politics" at all?

Time and time again elections show that Republicans and "conservatives" all seem to fall into line behind a singular candidate, whereas liberals/progressives/Democrats devolve into party cannibalism due to "ideals" and "morals".

When it comes time to vote for a particular person, the old adage is surprisingly accurate:

"Conservatives fall into line, liberals fall in love"

I think it has something to do with how conservatives have their brain's hardwired to accept authority, and crave tribalism/group coherency. There's something about being part of the "pack" or "group" that's deep-rooted among conservatives, more-so than liberal-minded people. I think this is why you tend to see more highly religious people turn out to be conservative. The group/inclusive unit lead by a strong authority figure of a church does represent an environment favorable to a conservative's psychology...

a reply to: Kettu

When you see me effectively paint Maoists, Nazi's, Leninist's, Facist's and Stalinist's all with the same brush, why would you insinuate this is a pro-Alt Right piece?

Now I do more go after the SJWFRONT as their scene has total dominance across the universities, their ideology is being socially engineered into grade school children of all ages, its them trolling white supremacy back into existence not the other way around, and so on.

But if you were to actually dig into my works in Identity Politics you'll see me frequently cite my 2007 piece where I was first coming to realize this model I've now come to call "Hyper-Tribalism", where at the time I was calling out the Neocon's for following the Nazi model to a T except for the most radicalizing identity: RACE. They stopped short of that one, the strong appeal to religion being part of their 'ideological identity complex', which had Republican followers many of them messaging me telling me off about how Bush was God's Man that God Himself rigged the election in 2000, type BS. You get similar effects with other mass identities merged into the political ideology, but the most violently radicalizing of all is surely RACE. And the Democrat Machine they actually went there, and beyond with all this gender and orgasm stuff.

Now conservatism does traditional have more of a stern fatherly 'style' to the liberal 'motherly' style to it. Yet the most recent study shows todays liberals as having more authoritarian tendencies than their polar opposite. Which is mighty interesting in psychology terms.

But in the realm of social psychology, like all large group structures the conservative types certainly appeal to hierarchy. And this would seem to be a strong parallel with the Nazi's; they were monsters of hierarchy from race to etc. Now all herein appeal to groupthink no doubt, but when I look at the COmmie's they have less appeal to hierarchy and more appeal to The Crowd (which they merely divided up as "soldier, worker, farmer" assuming the bourgeois were eliminated). I believe they call it Collectivism.

Now the SJW permutation of all of this is interesting in this light, as they do often openly use the word collectism, and the identity politics stuff is raw appeal to groupthink, yet they do also embody an appeal to hierarchy considering the "Progressive Stack" AKA the "Oppression Olympics". Since they bring race into the mix ala Nazism, their identity politics model more closely resembles the model the Nazi's invented, this seems like it would be the predictable case in such a proposition. And of course we have evidence to demonstrate such a posit:

a reply to: introvert

people are mostly influenced by strong emotions of the mob and that's exactly why modern democratic states and republics have a rigid set of checks & balances, equality protections and whatnot via constitutions.

outraged or idealistic humans do indeed behave like barbarians when in large groups and try to use intimidation and fear to pressure others to conform to their ways, many people in such mobs don't even believe in what they say or do but feel they have no choice but to conform or lie to protect themselves.

humans are easy to manipulate by powerful people because this whole mob trait and every great revolution in human history was guided by powerful people and it always starts small, what we see in america might seem minor at the moment but anyone with a proper grasp of human nature and a working survival instinct can see how it could easily lead to disaster.

Here goes a choice talk about the foreshadowing of the 'proper' Cultural Revolution:


The Tragedy of Liberation: A History of the Chinese Revolution 1945-1957

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Right. All of this from the person whom I've lost count how many times you've said "There's no such thing as SJW's, its all a myth".

SJW's in the form in which you have created in your mind and threads do not exist.

The universities are a network of an overt organized Neo-Communist social engineering campaign

No. The Universities are a cash-cow enterprise in which they fleece the students of their money for a half-assed education, profit handsomely from their labors on the athletic fields and give kids a better education in keg stands than anything else.

The people you speak of, while being very vocal, are a handful or two that get all of the attention from people such as yourself that wish to concoct grand conspiracies.

(Identity Politics is where the Nazi's METHODOLOGY of groupthink mind control is more relevant in the SJW Method discussion then the Commie style. Nazi's were about merging the race + ethnicity + political ideology + "World Identity" [] + religious identity into the Party Identity VS. Commies more simple in merging culture + political ideology + class into the Party Identity.)

Identity politics apply to everyone, regardless of group of ideology. But I think this comment contradicts the narrative you are trying to crate.

Are the "sjw"s like Nazis or commies? Or both?

Make up your mind.

[Note that "World Identity" means Nationalism, or Globalism, where the two are interchangeable in terms of the groupthink identity effect is has on a subject.]

I can agree with this, but I think it depends on the target.

LIberals/progressives tend to be more globalist in nature, looking at the bigger picture, and that appeals to them.

Conservatives/Right Wing have attached themselves to nationalism and that can be seen very clearly today.

a reply to: namehere

people are mostly influenced by strong emotions of the mob and that's exactly why modern democratic states and republics have a rigid set of checks & balances, equality protections and whatnot via constitutions.

outraged or idealistic humans do indeed behave like barbarians when in large groups and try to use intimidation and fear to pressure others to conform to their ways, many people in such mobs don't even believe in what they say or do but feel they have no choice but to conform or lie to protect themselves.

I do not disagree at all.

humans are easy to manipulate by powerful people because this whole mob trait and every great revolution in human history was guided by powerful people and it always starts small, what we see in america might seem minor at the moment but anyone with a proper grasp of human nature and a working survival instinct can see how it could easily lead to disaster.

I would also agree with that, if it weren't for the fact that the vast majority of activism and "revolution" these days comes through the medium of social media. Small groups and mobs may get together for a specific purpose from time to time, but nothing to the point that we need to be concerned that a revolution is taking place where millions will take to the streets, as was the case in the Chinese cultural revolution.

The real revolution I see potentially coming is the rise of different political parties that will change the system from within.

All you have to do is see Hillary and how her and her crony's dress,with Obama socialism was pushed in school,trying to disrupt so they can declare martial law,as far as I'm concerned nothing short of collective bargaining,the progressives never do long term study,because they can blame it on someone else when all goes wrong

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

And so goes the "Four Olds": Old Customs, Old Culture, Old Habits, Old Ideas. Which was to be replaced with the "Four News": New Customs, New Culture, New Habits, New Ideas.

What is expunged is the truth or external influence. In the case of Nazi censorship they were destroying anything other than Nazi ideology. In the case of MAO he was eradicating western influence represented by Chiang Kai-shek .


Anyone want the truth of that can read 'Maos little red book'.

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Ah, I see... So the ancient staues and buddhist temples and stuff were a Western influence that needed to be eradicated.

Same old tactics being used in America right now.
They used to be laughed off for the most part and that was the mistake as it allowed them to continue to grow unopposed.
Destroy the old culture, vilify the history and the heroes, call the language and institutions racist and demand they be changed to 'not offend' anyone.

Those who thought the religious right were a danger (including myself) have seen NOTHING compared to what complete leftist control would be like. They are so obnoxious they've actually made me reconsider my position against church and state separation. The Left is as much a religion as any other, it has doctrine and orthodoxy that replace any deity, effectively making mankind God.

originally posted by: 3n19m470

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

And so goes the "Four Olds": Old Customs, Old Culture, Old Habits, Old Ideas. Which was to be replaced with the "Four News": New Customs, New Culture, New Habits, New Ideas.

What is expunged is the truth or external influence. In the case of Nazi censorship they were destroying anything other than Nazi ideology. In the case of MAO he was eradicating western influence represented by Chiang Kai-shek .


Anyone want the truth of that can read 'Maos little red book'.

(portion redacted)

Ah, I see... So the ancient staues and buddhist temples and stuff were a Western influence that needed to be eradicated.

Actually, yah, the whole "Burma Road" thing was to supply the Chinese under Chian kai shek with arms to deafeat the Japanese, which was always intended to gain western control of China, eventually. The effort failed, Mao won.

US military remained in Europe, Philippines, Japan and plethora of Pacific Island Nations. I wont go into Korea or Vietnam, either.

You should read up on your history of WWII in French Indo China, and add the Chinese revolution to defeat the western Imperialists backing Chiang kai shek.

Edit: WTF has buddhism got to do with it?