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originally posted by: paraphi
originally posted by: crazyewok
Then you have the waste in human lives. 5 million jews and millions of more polish, gypsy, Russians ect. Why kill them? Why make enemys of people you could CONSCRIPT and use in your war ?
Nazi Germany consigned millions to slave labour camps, so they did "conscript" people to work for their war effort. In addition, the Jews were also used as forced labourers and that's how many were exterminated.
By 1944, slave labour made up one quarter of Germany's entire work force, and the majority of German factories had a contingent of prisoners.[12][24] The Nazis also had plans for the deportation and enslavement of 50% of Britain's adult male population in the event of a successful invasion.
Wiki Nazi forced labour
The Soviets were also up for forced labour, including deportations. Sadly, the Soviets continued their brutality after WW2, but that's another topic.
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: crazyewok
I'd have to say yes, it did. Or certainly contributed to it. I don't think they'd have won anyway, like you said, three superpowers--The USSR, the US, and Great Britain. They were having enough trouble with just two, once the third, the US, came onto the scene, and was fully ramped up, the Nazi's were doomed.
Yet through all of it, they kept those trains running people to the camps, day in, day out, night in, night out. Trains that could have been carrying war supplies to which ever front. The men, and women, used as guards could have been better used elsewhere.
So, yeah, I'd have to say the pathological hatred of those different cost them big time.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Ohanka
I mean the ones getting exterminated in the countries hitler had already invaded, not western pushback.
Hitler gets every disgruntled population in Russia as allies if not for all the genocide.
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Ohanka
Wrong. The Allies knew, there was little to nothing they could do about it though.
Stories had been circulating since the middle 30's of round ups, forced relocations, etc... Oh, it wasn't a secret.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Ohanka
I've heard the oppposute about Russia specifically, which is arguably the turning point of the war..
I heard most were ready to join hitler until he started genociding children and all.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Ohanka
But how many more of the other (former soviet such as ukraine) countries swap sides if hitler shows up like a liberator and making everyone German citizens???
From what I've heard everywhere (roughly ) west of Moscow hated Stalin.. they were all even preparing to join hitler until it was obvious hitler did not want them.. in fact wanted them exterminated to make room for aryan colonists..